The Future of the PDC World Championship - Expansion to 128 confirmed for 2025/6

[Randall]

The extra TC holders we'd have got this year

1. Robert Owen
2. Maik Kuivenhoven
3. Mervyn King
4. Keane Barry
5. Andy Baetens
6. Jose de Sousa
7. Graham Hall
8. Mario Vandenbogaerde
--
9. Jeffrey Sparidaans
10. Berry van Peer
11. Nathan Rafferty
12. Radek Szaganski
13. Lukas Wenig
14. Dylan Slevin
15. Steve Lennon
16. Matt Campbell

We don't need em

[Rogg]

The extra TC holders we'd have got this year

1. Robert Owen
2. Maik Kuivenhoven
3. Mervyn King
4. Keane Barry
5. Andy Baetens
6. Jose de Sousa
7. Graham Hall
8. Mario Vandenbogaerde
--
9. Jeffrey Sparidaans
10. Berry van Peer
11. Nathan Rafferty
12. Radek Szaganski
13. Lukas Wenig
14. Dylan Slevin
15. Steve Lennon
16. Matt Campbell

New or returning card holders in yellow. It would be a huge boost for such players.

[The Thorn]

The extra TC holders we'd have got this year

1. Robert Owen
2. Maik Kuivenhoven
3. Mervyn King
4. Keane Barry
5. Andy Baetens
6. Jose de Sousa
7. Graham Hall
8. Mario Vandenbogaerde
--
9. Jeffrey Sparidaans
10. Berry van Peer
11. Nathan Rafferty
12. Radek Szaganski
13. Lukas Wenig
14. Dylan Slevin
15. Steve Lennon
16. Matt Campbell

We don't need em

It's not inspiring maybe but it's more than a 50% hit rate for me. Only 2 or 3 of them are vile.

[DeepFriedRat]

The extra TC holders we'd have got this year

1. Robert Owen
2. Maik Kuivenhoven
3. Mervyn King
4. Keane Barry
5. Andy Baetens
6. Jose de Sousa
7. Graham Hall
8. Mario Vandenbogaerde
--
9. Jeffrey Sparidaans
10. Berry van Peer
11. Nathan Rafferty
12. Radek Szaganski
13. Lukas Wenig
14. Dylan Slevin
15. Steve Lennon
16. Matt Campbell

We don't need em

It's not inspiring maybe but it's more than a 50% hit rate for me. Only 2 or 3 of them are vile.

Please reveal the vile

[1205]

And since the top guns are in it they will be long format unlike the old prelims

How on earth will it even work? Give the pro tour qualifiers seedings 33-64? Make the first round a non tc only shitfest and then have the pro tours enter in R2 and the seeds in R3? Its going to be a pathetic display.

It's a flat 128 draw

Hearn does not say that. Only the sun. Who are of course talking out their arse.

A flat draw would deminish the value of the tc if the pro tour #1 can just be killed off by one of the top guns in R1. It wont happen.

I don't know abt seedings but everyone starts in round 1

I fear they will. But, god no.

It makes sense to have flat to get a seed in every session.
But it doesn't make sense if you want better games.
Flat means a bigger gap in ability between players in round 1.

For better games I think you need to add an earlier round where
65to96 v 97to128 (however the ranking is decided)
Still 32 more games, but I think closer games and clearing out more of the chaff before they meet the Pro Tour top 32 so that those games should be better as well.

[The Thorn]

The extra TC holders we'd have got this year

1. Robert Owen
2. Maik Kuivenhoven
3. Mervyn King
4. Keane Barry
5. Andy Baetens
6. Jose de Sousa
7. Graham Hall
8. Mario Vandenbogaerde
--
9. Jeffrey Sparidaans
10. Berry van Peer
11. Nathan Rafferty
12. Radek Szaganski
13. Lukas Wenig
14. Dylan Slevin
15. Steve Lennon
16. Matt Campbell

We don't need em

It's not inspiring maybe but it's more than a 50% hit rate for me. Only 2 or 3 of them are vile.

Please reveal the vile

Owen, Kuivenhoven, Van Peer

I consider all of them capable players actually just don't like them

[The Thorn]

How on earth will it even work? Give the pro tour qualifiers seedings 33-64? Make the first round a non tc only shitfest and then have the pro tours enter in R2 and the seeds in R3? Its going to be a pathetic display.

It's a flat 128 draw

Hearn does not say that. Only the sun. Who are of course talking out their arse.

A flat draw would deminish the value of the tc if the pro tour #1 can just be killed off by one of the top guns in R1. It wont happen.

I don't know abt seedings but everyone starts in round 1

I fear they will. But, god no.

It makes sense to have flat to get a seed in every session.
But it doesn't make sense if you want better games.
Flat means a bigger gap in ability between players in round 1.

For better games I think you need to add an earlier round where
65to96 v 97to128 (however the ranking is decided)
Still 32 more games, but I think closer games and clearing out more of the chaff before they meet the Pro Tour top 32 so that those games should be better as well.

But then the seeds would get a bye for 2 rounds. I don't like that either. Imagine cloggers like Wright Barney etc who have done fuck all for years just clinging on in the 2 year rankings. The current format just works because there is a balance between seeds getting an advantage but everyone else gets a decent chance.

[Randall]

1 v 128 etc is the only fair method

[willem0000]

It's a flat 128 draw

Hearn does not say that. Only the sun. Who are of course talking out their arse.

A flat draw would deminish the value of the tc if the pro tour #1 can just be killed off by one of the top guns in R1. It wont happen.

I don't know abt seedings but everyone starts in round 1

I fear they will. But, god no.

It makes sense to have flat to get a seed in every session.
But it doesn't make sense if you want better games.
Flat means a bigger gap in ability between players in round 1.

For better games I think you need to add an earlier round where
65to96 v 97to128 (however the ranking is decided)
Still 32 more games, but I think closer games and clearing out more of the chaff before they meet the Pro Tour top 32 so that those games should be better as well.

But then the seeds would get a bye for 2 rounds. I don't like that either. Imagine cloggers like Wright Barney etc who have done fuck all for years just clinging on in the 2 year rankings. The current format just works because there is a balance between seeds getting an advantage but everyone else gets a decent chance.

Its even more fucked up when a top 32 player cancels the invitation after the draw: then some low ranked will go straight into the 3rd round (although I think they have to win atleast 1 game to get money/ranking for that spot, otherwise it probably is just round 1 money/ranking).

But the number 1 playing the more or less number 128 isnt very watchable

[Dfc180]

Hearn does not say that. Only the sun. Who are of course talking out their arse.

A flat draw would deminish the value of the tc if the pro tour #1 can just be killed off by one of the top guns in R1. It wont happen.

I don't know abt seedings but everyone starts in round 1

I fear they will. But, god no.

It makes sense to have flat to get a seed in every session.
But it doesn't make sense if you want better games.
Flat means a bigger gap in ability between players in round 1.

For better games I think you need to add an earlier round where
65to96 v 97to128 (however the ranking is decided)
Still 32 more games, but I think closer games and clearing out more of the chaff before they meet the Pro Tour top 32 so that those games should be better as well.

But then the seeds would get a bye for 2 rounds. I don't like that either. Imagine cloggers like Wright Barney etc who have done fuck all for years just clinging on in the 2 year rankings. The current format just works because there is a balance between seeds getting an advantage but everyone else gets a decent chance.

Its even more fucked up when a top 32 player cancels the invitation after the draw: then some low ranked will go straight into the 3rd round (although I think they have to win atleast 1 game to get money/ranking for that spot, otherwise it probably is just round 1 money/ranking).

But the number 1 playing the more or less number 128 isnt very watchable

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't go down the 1 v 128 route. Likely to be staggered like the UK Open

[The Thorn]

Walkon girls will be back

[Rogg]

This is Unc Barry's interview where he said about it.

[Randall]

"The same equipment"
Fuck off barry

[The Thorn]

Ashtray

[Rogg]

I don't know if he actually mentions the Worlds expansion in this video at all. He said it on Talksport apparently but perhaps not this clip.

[1205]

It's a flat 128 draw

Hearn does not say that. Only the sun. Who are of course talking out their arse.

A flat draw would deminish the value of the tc if the pro tour #1 can just be killed off by one of the top guns in R1. It wont happen.

I don't know abt seedings but everyone starts in round 1

I fear they will. But, god no.

It makes sense to have flat to get a seed in every session.
But it doesn't make sense if you want better games.
Flat means a bigger gap in ability between players in round 1.

For better games I think you need to add an earlier round where
65to96 v 97to128 (however the ranking is decided)
Still 32 more games, but I think closer games and clearing out more of the chaff before they meet the Pro Tour top 32 so that those games should be better as well.

But then the seeds would get a bye for 2 rounds. I don't like that either. Imagine cloggers like Wright Barney etc who have done fuck all for years just clinging on in the 2 year rankings. The current format just works because there is a balance between seeds getting an advantage but everyone else gets a decent chance.

It doesn't really matter about the bye. They'd have the same number of games to play as they do now.

The challenge is scheduling.
Currently early sessions are R1, R1, R1, R2 with the first session being R1-1, R1-2, R1-3, R2-1 with the defending champion in R2-1 playing the winner of the first game.
With 3 players and two rounds to be played to meet the seed either they'd need an early start, or to something like:
R1-1, R2-1, R1-2, R3-1.
But a possibility would be to try to start the first session a bit early to spread out the games like:
R1-1, filler, R2-1, R1-2, R3-1.

[Rogg]

For the 04 and 05 Worlds they had players entering in three different rounds.

[The Thorn]

For the 04 and 05 Worlds they had players entering in three different rounds.

Only way fraud Painter would get near a world final

[Rogg]

For the 04 and 05 Worlds they had players entering in three different rounds.

Only way fraud Painter would get near a world final

At the end of the day just another coward who ran away from Wolfie.

[The Thorn]

For the 04 and 05 Worlds they had players entering in three different rounds.

Only way fraud Painter would get near a world final

At the end of the day just another coward who ran away from Wolfie.

Everyone is running away from Adams he's like a Spanish bull