The darts forum definitive all time top 32 -27th place poll

[HalloweenJack]

Only on TDF, and I’m called a contrarian, maybe I am to 10-15 people on here yet I doubt to the mainstream opinion ( certainly regarding Thornton)

Gee, I wonder why.

I try to put a different viewpoint to stimulate debate yet some just see it as a red rag to a bull and it is very amusing.

That is the finishing blow, sorry Jack.

Yes, in my favour. 10-15 people isn’t the majority in the grand scheme of things

[TopLad180]

How can lengthy paragraphs explaining an opinion, and then elaborating on why I believe same be "trolling"?

Do we have to pretend that Taylor averaged 110 every time, or that 1/8 shots never get beaten?

If they ran 10,000 simulations of the upcoming PDC worlds, you'd end up with probably 30-40 different winners. To state that Tony David, who won 3 BDO majors in 2002 so was possibly the 2nd best player in the world that year, couldn't have possibly won a unified world championship either by playing an underpar Taylor or being lucky enough to have someone else upset him early in the tournament is pretty much willful ignorance. Unlikely, yes. "Fuck off idiit, it's impossible", no.

[Randall]

Lovely stuff

[Ross, Bob]

How can lengthy paragraphs explaining an opinion, and then elaborating on why I believe same be "trolling"?

Do we have to pretend that Taylor averaged 110 every time, or that 1/8 shots never get beaten?

If they ran 10,000 simulations of the upcoming PDC worlds, you'd end up with probably 30-40 different winners. To state that Tony David, who won 3 BDO majors in 2002 so was possibly the 2nd best player in the world that year, couldn't have possibly won a unified world championship either by playing an underpar Taylor or being lucky enough to have someone else upset him early in the tournament is pretty much willful ignorance. Unlikely, yes. "Fuck off idiit, it's impossible", no.

Please consider fucking off, mate.

[Randall]

How can lengthy paragraphs explaining an opinion, and then elaborating on why I believe same be "trolling"?

Do we have to pretend that Taylor averaged 110 every time, or that 1/8 shots never get beaten?

If they ran 10,000 simulations of the upcoming PDC worlds, you'd end up with probably 30-40 different winners. To state that Tony David, who won 3 BDO majors in 2002 so was possibly the 2nd best player in the world that year, couldn't have possibly won a unified world championship either by playing an underpar Taylor or being lucky enough to have someone else upset him early in the tournament is pretty much willful ignorance. Unlikely, yes. "Fuck off idiit, it's impossible", no.

Please consider fucking off, mate.

[sennafan24]

To state that Tony David, who won 3 BDO majors in 2002 so was possibly the 2nd best player in the world that year, couldn't have possibly won a unified world championship either by playing an underpar Taylor or being lucky enough to have someone else upset him early in the tournament is pretty much willful ignorance. Unlikely, yes. "Fuck off idiit, it's impossible", no.

Randall, can you clarify your view on this, please?

I suspect you actually agree that Taylor would have won fewer titles in a unified field.

[Randall]

To state that Tony David, who won 3 BDO majors in 2002 so was possibly the 2nd best player in the world that year, couldn't have possibly won a unified world championship either by playing an underpar Taylor or being lucky enough to have someone else upset him early in the tournament is pretty much willful ignorance. Unlikely, yes. "Fuck off idiit, it's impossible", no.

Randall, can you clarify your view on this, please?

I suspect you actually agree that Taylor would have won fewer titles in a unified field.

I dont read his waffle I'm aftraid

[The Ginge Reaper]

"If I dont agree with something, it is waffle"

[Randall]

Still working

[TopLad180]

To think, this latest strop began because he couldn't take people thinking Hankey was better than Fordham.

[The Thorn]

For clarity, it was Senna who questioned Randall multiple times and then HJ also came in with the usual you're biased line. Just stating a fact, I couldn't give a shit about Hankey or Fordham. It's only a strop if you're on the other side.

[sennafan24]

For clarity, it was Senna who questioned Randall multiple times and then HJ also came in with the usual you're biased line. Just stating a fact, I couldn't give a shit about Hankey or Fordham. It's only a strop if you're on the other side.

"Stop taking it so seriously"

[The Thorn]

Glad I'm only posting in this thread because of the post count. It's just irritating to see someone refer to the public opinion as a fact or use arguments like "this wouldn't happen in any other sport" or whatever.

[Randall]

It all adds to the post count
It's all good

[Randall]

Fordham 3
Gurney 2
Hankey 3
Evison 2
Beaton 1


Currently tied
Give it until 6

[The Ginge Reaper]

Hankey, just to annoy "you lot".

[The Thorn]

Hankey, just to annoy "you lot".

A masterstroke from Ginge, there

[TopLad180]

Parallels with other sports are important, but probably only individual sports like golf and snooker where players can have 20 year careers at the top of the game.

I value "how good I think this player was, and how long were they that good for" higher than "how much have they won" and "what's their best one-off performance", with a lack of competition bias against anyone who peaked before 1990. That's subjective obviously, and I'd try to apply it consistently. I can't have Waites, Deller or Rees above Adams, King or Shitlock. Lloyd and Thornton we've already discussed. While Tony David's 2002 would be one of the top 15-20 years anyone ever had (if each player only got one year, so 2016 for MVG, 2009 or so for Feel), overall he'd be lucky to crack the top 50 (albeit probably not his fault due to the haemophilia).

[TopLad180]

Oh, and obviously Hollywood Hankey is my vote for the poll.

[Randall]

Hankey, just to annoy "you lot".

Cheers that'll do for this one