can you enlighten us please??Knots & crosses wrote:He was a solid figurehead for the abramovich regime to be built on, having come through the youth system. The fact that is was the last 1st team regular to do do should not be forgotten.
As for him being world class? I think he makes Rio Ferdinand look world class. & you should be aware of my feelings towards Rio.
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he's shite. Very shite. Was done at the top level 3 years ago. Should be playing for someone like spurs or everton.martin71109 wrote:can you enlighten us please??Knots & crosses wrote:He was a solid figurehead for the abramovich regime to be built on, having come through the youth system. The fact that is was the last 1st team regular to do do should not be forgotten.
As for him being world class? I think he makes Rio Ferdinand look world class. & you should be aware of my feelings towards Rio.
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His demise started last season, prior to that he was magnificant...Knots & crosses wrote:he's shite. Very shite. Was done at the top level 3 years ago. Should be playing for someone like spurs or everton.martin71109 wrote:can you enlighten us please??Knots & crosses wrote:He was a solid figurehead for the abramovich regime to be built on, having come through the youth system. The fact that is was the last 1st team regular to do do should not be forgotten.
As for him being world class? I think he makes Rio Ferdinand look world class. & you should be aware of my feelings towards Rio.
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On what grounds? Speed? Fitness? Tackling.Knots & crosses wrote:he's shite. Very shite. Was done at the top level 3 years ago. Should be playing for someone like spurs or everton.martin71109 wrote:can you enlighten us please??Knots & crosses wrote:He was a solid figurehead for the abramovich regime to be built on, having come through the youth system. The fact that is was the last 1st team regular to do do should not be forgotten.
As for him being world class? I think he makes Rio Ferdinand look world class. & you should be aware of my feelings towards Rio.
His reading of the game is still very good imo.
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dont think he has been playing much of late, seems to be injured or cannot dislodge the other centre-backsKnots & crosses wrote:he's shite. Very shite. Was done at the top level 3 years ago. Should be playing for someone like spurs or everton.martin71109 wrote:can you enlighten us please??Knots & crosses wrote:He was a solid figurehead for the abramovich regime to be built on, having come through the youth system. The fact that is was the last 1st team regular to do do should not be forgotten.
As for him being world class? I think he makes Rio Ferdinand look world class. & you should be aware of my feelings towards Rio.
or maybe he is just shit and age is catching up on him

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on the grounds that the game is too fast for him, his concentration levels are akin to that of the navigator that missed the iceberg the titanic hit, & his fitness levels are now comparable to Darren Anderton.D & B wrote:On what grounds? Speed? Fitness? Tackling.Knots & crosses wrote:he's shite. Very shite. Was done at the top level 3 years ago. Should be playing for someone like spurs or everton.martin71109 wrote:can you enlighten us please??Knots & crosses wrote:He was a solid figurehead for the abramovich regime to be built on, having come through the youth system. The fact that is was the last 1st team regular to do do should not be forgotten.
As for him being world class? I think he makes Rio Ferdinand look world class. & you should be aware of my feelings towards Rio.
His reading of the game is still very good imo.
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I blame Twitter.Knots & crosses wrote:on the grounds that the game is too fast for him, his concentration levels are akin to that of the navigator that missed the iceberg the titanic hit, & his fitness levels are now comparable to Darren Anderton.D & B wrote:On what grounds? Speed? Fitness? Tackling.Knots & crosses wrote:he's shite. Very shite. Was done at the top level 3 years ago. Should be playing for someone like spurs or everton.martin71109 wrote:can you enlighten us please??Knots & crosses wrote:He was a solid figurehead for the abramovich regime to be built on, having come through the youth system. The fact that is was the last 1st team regular to do do should not be forgotten.
As for him being world class? I think he makes Rio Ferdinand look world class. & you should be aware of my feelings towards Rio.
His reading of the game is still very good imo.
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you would not be alone in that assertation.D & B wrote:I blame Twitter.Knots & crosses wrote:on the grounds that the game is too fast for him, his concentration levels are akin to that of the navigator that missed the iceberg the titanic hit, & his fitness levels are now comparable to Darren Anderton.D & B wrote:On what grounds? Speed? Fitness? Tackling.Knots & crosses wrote:he's shite. Very shite. Was done at the top level 3 years ago. Should be playing for someone like spurs or everton.martin71109 wrote: can you enlighten us please??
His reading of the game is still very good imo.
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Snakehipsx2 wrote:I'd prefer to see them give it to someone like Phil Jones.
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