When you take into account the opposing averages and the boards they were thrown on there can't possibly have been an easier route to a major title. Part in 94 is the other obvious front runner but those boards were much more challenging as we know. Waites' other title win was shite as well (along with most Lakesides since Barney left) but 2013 was the worst. As i said earlier I don't think I've seen a worse televised darts match than that final against O'Shea. Anyone who sat through it all (I couldn't quite manage it) must have been on suicide watch afterwards.Randall wrote:Either way for the purpose of this thread he wins because it is universal shit being thrown back.sennafan24 wrote:Possibly so.Randall wrote:The argument that he played as well as he needed to in light of the durrant game could be made?
However, the Durrant game demonstrated that he has the ability to take his game up a notch. We can only speculate that he was coasting against the rest.
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i don't believe anyone in the bdo is capable of winning matches with just fucking around
or raise their games at will
if anyone was capable, he would have cleaned everything up
or raise their games at will
if anyone was capable, he would have cleaned everything up
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dartvader wrote:When you take into account the opposing averages and the boards they were thrown on there can't possibly have been an easier route to a major title. Part in 94 is the other obvious front runner but those boards were much more challenging as we know. Waites' other title win was shite as well (along with most Lakeshites since Barney left) but 2013 was the worst. As i said earlier I don't think I've seen a worse televised darts match than that final against O'Shea. Anyone who sat through it all (I couldn't quite manage it) must have been on suicide watch afterwards.Randall wrote:Either way for the purpose of this thread he wins because it is universal shit being thrown back.sennafan24 wrote:Possibly so.Randall wrote:The argument that he played as well as he needed to in light of the durrant game could be made?
However, the Durrant game demonstrated that he has the ability to take his game up a notch. We can only speculate that he was coasting against the rest.
the 1979 run as highlighted earlier was brutal butan 85 average then is nigh on a 100 now.
i dont expect to find anything worse than waites but with the idl being very long format i expect to find some stinkers.
how long did the idl run for, does anybody know?

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Someone argued recently that Adams was coasting when he won Lakeside 2011.Jamie Craven wrote:i don't believe anyone in the bdo is capable of winning matches with just fucking around
or raise their games at will
if anyone was capable, he would have cleaned everything up
What they ignored was that Adams was run close by Walton, Phillips and Deano. If he was coasting, then these games would have been more one-sided. Why would Adams make a meal out of things when he had the option not to?
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for coasting read shitting himself.sennafan24 wrote:Someone argued recently that Adams was coasting when he won Lakeshite 2011.Jamie Craven wrote:i don't believe anyone in the bdo is capable of winning matches with just fucking around
or raise their games at will
if anyone was capable, he would have cleaned everything up
What they ignored was that Adams was run close by Walton, Phillips and Deano. If he was coasting, then these games would have been more one-sided. Why would Adams make a meal out of things when he had the option not to?

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can someone list the american jobbers,women players, alcoholics and washed up "stars" that formed the early wdc?
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fear not, being impartial i will be investigating the standard there as well mate.fandarts wrote:can someone list the american jobbers,women players, alcoholics and washed up "stars" that formed the early wdc?

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Top 16 (Seeded)fandarts wrote:can someone list the american jobbers,women players, alcoholics and washed up "stars" that formed the late BDO?
England Glen Durrant (Quarter-final)
England Martin Adams (First round)
Netherlands Jeffrey de Graaf (First round)
England Jamie Hughes (Semi-final)
Netherlands Wesley Harms (Quarter-final)
England Scott Mitchell (Quarter-final)
England Darryl Fitton (First round)
Belgium Geert De Vos (Second round)
England Scott Waites (Winner)
Wales Martin Phillips (Second round)
England Mark McGeeney (Second round)
Wales Jim Williams (Second round)
England Gary Robson (First round)
England Pip Blackwell (First round)
England Brian Dawson (Second round)
Netherlands Ryan de Vreede (First round)
17–24 in BDO Rankings (First Round Qualifiers)
Scotland Ross Montgomery (First round)
Wales Dean Reynolds (First round)
England Dennis Harbour (Quarter final)
Latvia Madars Razma (Second round)
Netherlands Richard Veenstra (Semi-final)
Netherlands Willem Mandigers (First round)
England Tony O'Shea (First round)
England Martin Atkins (Second round)
25–27 in BDO Rankings (Preliminary Round Qualifiers)
Lithuania Darius Labanauskas (Preliminary round)
England James Hurrell (Preliminary round)
England Ted Hankey (First round)
Standby Player (Preliminary Round Qualifier)
England Sam Hewson (Preliminary round)
2015 Semi-Finalist not in top 28 (Preliminary Round Qualifier)
Canada Jeff Smith (Runner-up)
Hull Qualifiers (Preliminary Round Qualifiers)
England John Walton (First round)
Denmark Vladimir Andersen
Scotland Alan Soutar (Preliminary round)
England Darren Peetoom (Preliminary round)
WDF Regional Qualifiers (Preliminary Round Qualifiers)
Japan Seigo Asada (First round)
Australia Rob Modra (Preliminary round)
Sweden Peter Sajwani (First round)
Canada David Cameron (Preliminary round)
Greece Kostas Pantelidis (First round)
New Zealand Craig Caldwell (First round)
United States Larry Butler (Second round)
Netherlands Matthew Medhurst (Preliminary round)
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15-0sennafan24 wrote:Top 16 (Seeded)fandarts wrote:can someone list the american jobbers,women players, alcoholics and washed up "stars" that formed the late BDO?
England Glen Durrant (Quarter-final)
England Martin Adams (First round)
Netherlands Jeffrey de Graaf (First round)
England Jamie Hughes (Semi-final)
Netherlands Wesley Harms (Quarter-final)
England Scott Mitchell (Quarter-final)
England Darryl Fitton (First round)
Belgium Geert De Vos (Second round)
England Scott Waites (Winner)
Wales Martin Phillips (Second round)
England Mark McGeeney (Second round)
Wales Jim Williams (Second round)
England Gary Jobson (First round)
England Pip Blackwell (First round)
England Brian Dawson (Second round)
Netherlands Ryan de Vreede (First round)
17–24 in BDO Rankings (First Round Qualifiers)
Scotland Ross McLoyalty (First round)
Wales Dean Reynolds (First round)
England Dennis Harbour (Quarter final)
Latvia Madars Razma (Second round)
Netherlands Richard Veenstra (Semi-final)
Netherlands Willem Mandigers (First round)
England Tony O'Shea (First round)
England Martin Atkins (Second round)
25–27 in BDO Rankings (Preliminary Round Qualifiers)
Lithuania Darius Labanauskas (Preliminary round)
England James Hurrell (Preliminary round)
England Ted Hankey (First round)
Standby Player (Preliminary Round Qualifier)
England Sam Hewson (Preliminary round)
2015 Semi-Finalist not in top 28 (Preliminary Round Qualifier)
Canada Jeff Smith (Runner-up)
Hull Qualifiers (Preliminary Round Qualifiers)
England John Walton (First round)
Denmark Vladimir Andersen
Scotland Alan Soutar (Preliminary round)
England Darren Peetoom (Preliminary round)
WDF Regional Qualifiers (Preliminary Round Qualifiers)
Japan Seigo Asada (First round)
Australia Rob Modra (Preliminary round)
Sweden Peter Sajwani (First round)
Canada David Cameron (Preliminary round)
Greece Kostas Pantelidis (First round)
New Zealand Craig Caldwell (First round)
United States Larry Butler (Second round)
Netherlands Matthew Medhurst (Preliminary round)

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And didn't have to face Richie Fucking George. The BBC were desperate for him to win it.Randall wrote:Compare the board to 2012 and these are better performances than waites faced, as shit as they are, possibly.a massive zebra wrote:Purely statistically, John Lowe's route to the 1979 world championship beats all of these. Despite beating two world champions on the way, he only faced one average over 80 in the whole tournament! Obviously darts has evolved in the last 40 years and perhaps these averages did not then stick out like a sore thumb like the Waites averages do now. But based on the average average of the players defeated by the eventual champion, this is probably the easiest route to a world title (although Tony Brown played better than any of Waites opponents).
Doug McCarthy (71.73)
Jocky Wilson (78.18)
Tony Brown (88.17)
Leighton Rees (76.62)
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*shudder*wintergardener wrote:And didn't have to face Richie Fucking George. The BBC were desperate for him to win it.Randall wrote:Compare the board to 2012 and these are better performances than waites faced, as shit as they are, possibly.a massive zebra wrote:Purely statistically, John Lowe's route to the 1979 world championship beats all of these. Despite beating two world champions on the way, he only faced one average over 80 in the whole tournament! Obviously darts has evolved in the last 40 years and perhaps these averages did not then stick out like a sore thumb like the Waites averages do now. But based on the average average of the players defeated by the eventual champion, this is probably the easiest route to a world title (although Tony Brown played better than any of Waites opponents).
Doug McCarthy (71.73)
Jocky Wilson (78.18)
Tony Brown (88.17)
Leighton Rees (76.62)

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much to my surprise the international darts league can be discounted.
standard was high, higher than lakeside certainly.
standard was high, higher than lakeside certainly.

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i cannot find averages for anything beyond for finals for the world darts trophy.
looking at names, gary robsons winning year (good grief) looks like a contender.
looking at names, gary robsons winning year (good grief) looks like a contender.

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buntings 2014 run doesnt stand close inspection
Jim Widmayer 76.57
Dave Prins 89.79
Rick Hofstra 89.13
Robbie Green 85.68
Alan Norris 92.18
Jim Widmayer 76.57
Dave Prins 89.79
Rick Hofstra 89.13
Robbie Green 85.68
Alan Norris 92.18

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just for fanny
taylors 1995 world title
Gerald Verrier (79.93) group
Sean Downs (84.39) group
Bob Anderson (84.45)
John Lowe (90.84)
Rod Harrington (87.15)
not the greatest but he did have to beat two world champions and harrington was no mug.
factor in the boards as well, it doesnt top waites in 2012.
taylors 1995 world title
Gerald Verrier (79.93) group
Sean Downs (84.39) group
Bob Anderson (84.45)
John Lowe (90.84)
Rod Harrington (87.15)
not the greatest but he did have to beat two world champions and harrington was no mug.
factor in the boards as well, it doesnt top waites in 2012.

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He cruised to that title. Won it with a swagger but clearly having to deal with very little coming back at him. That 2014 event is interesting to look back on as so many of the players involved have since switched, including all four semi-finalists.Randall wrote:buntings 2014 run doesnt stand close inspection
Jim Widmayer 76.57
Dave Prins 89.79
Rick Hofstra 89.13
Robbie Green 85.68
Alan Norris 92.18
Just as an aside, he averaged 100 in the win v Prins, which is the only 100+ average at the piss palace in the last 10 years. Exclamation mark.
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The trebles get bigger, the bull is a bucket but the standard gets worse.

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While the 2008 PDC World Championship was an odd tournament, Part was the best player of that tournament, with Painter second. Part beat Painter 6-2 in the semis.cannibal wrote:Parts 2008 run to title was a bit of a cake walk. None of his opponents threw over a 92 avg. Then he meets Kirk who had the good fortune of everyone shitting the bed for him.
Part the guy who had lightening struck twice for him.
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I didn't even bother watching the final, never have seen it.PT13 wrote:While the 2008 PDC World Championship was an odd tournament, Part was the best player of that tournament, with Painter second. Part beat Painter 6-2 in the semis.cannibal wrote:Parts 2008 run to title was a bit of a cake walk. None of his opponents threw over a 92 avg. Then he meets Kirk who had the good fortune of everyone shitting the bed for him.
Part the guy who had lightening struck twice for him.

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It's plain queer. Glen mocking the dinner plate bull in his local rag last Jan was rofls. One of almost a thousand official tdf judged Lakeside Howlers, no less.Randall wrote:The trebles get bigger, the bull is a bucket but the screen standard gets worse.
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