Lakeside 2024 Ticket Sales

[willem0000]

Probably minus 20% VAT, but it is good to see that they already have sold a lot. Read some conflicting numbers about how many fit in Lakeside, around 1000 or around 1400. If its 1400 the finals will probably cover about 1/3 of the prizemoney.

[Addicks Fan]

Update after a couple more months have passed. I think the prize money may be higher this year than last, depending on the appetite of the WDF to set expectations for the future. Weekend and Thursday/Friday numbers are good for this far out, other weekdays are, as ever, poor:

		Sold	Value
Friday 	Eve	291	11025
SaturdayAft	424	13340
	Eve	577	19440
Sat	All Day	125	9695
Sun	Aft	131	3890
	Eve	104	2680
Sun 	All Day	33	2475
Mon	Aft	26	755
	Eve	62	1856
Tue	Aft	13	390
	Eve	16	466
Wed	Aft	45	1350
	Eve	28	836
Thu	Aft	98	2930
	Eve	145	4312
Fri	Aft	122	4540
	Eve	363	15180
Sat	Aft	401	9940
	Eve	735	26270
Sat 	All Day	203	16315
Sun 	All Day	766	54765
			
Total		4347	202450

[The Ginge Reaper]

16 for the Tuesday evening!!!!!!

If ever there was an argument to just make this event a 3/4 day thing over a weekend, there it is above.

[oche balboa]

16 for the Tuesday evening!!!!!!

If ever there was an argument to just make this event a 3/4 day thing over a weekend, there it is above.

No chance mate.

[Cooking with Sandra]

16 for the Tuesday evening!!!!!!

If ever there was an argument to just make this event a 3/4 day thing over a weekend, there it is above.

Probably best to just shut it down at this point. Modus do a far better job for the amateur game.

[The Ginge Reaper]

I don't disagree, it could clearly still function with a decent crowd as a short sharp 16 man/8 woman event held over maybe 4 evenings and 2 weekend daytimes though.

Men L16 and Women's L8 on Thursday and Friday night (6 games each night)

Men's L8 and Women's semis on Saturday (3 games in afternoon, 3 in evening)

Men's semis Sunday afternoon (shove a Youth final in if you must)

Both finals Sunday night.

There we go, I've fixed it. Someone tell Nick Rolls.

[Cooking with Sandra]

He lives over the road, I’ll pop in when I’m back from my holiday.

[sennafan24]

Does anyone know the extent to which Lakeside has been a big money loser for the WDF?

[The Ginge Reaper]

Does anyone know the extent to which Lakeside has been a big money loser for the WDF?

Suspect it isn't, it's either money in money out (with all the entry fee suppliments worldwide paying for it), or the venue is stumping up.

[TheMalteseDart]

I can see why they made the field bigger, they want to incentivise players to play the tour throughout the year and accumulate points even if they’re not at the level of let’s say someone like Baetans. With a small world championship field people probably wouldn’t bother throughout the year

[Addicks Fan]

Does anyone know the extent to which Lakeside has been a big money loser for the WDF?

Suspect it isn't, it's either money in money out (with all the entry fee suppliments worldwide paying for it), or the venue is stumping up.

I think the 3-year deal negotiated by the WDF means that they take the gate money, Lakeside takes the hospitality and programme sales. So if they are careful it should not be a loss-maker, and I would imagine is the opposite. I can't see them shortening it, as the prize money comes straight from ticket sales, and given they've raked in more than £60k on the first weekend already (4 months to go), losing that would weaken the attraction to players and the already diminished status of the event.

[Rogg]

If no-one is losing money and they don't care about getting paid to put it on television then why would they reduce it? May as well puff it up to be as fat as possible for what malt said.

[willem0000]

I can see why they made the field bigger, they want to incentivise players to play the tour throughout the year and accumulate points even if they’re not at the level of let’s say someone like Baetans. With a small world championship field people probably wouldn’t bother throughout the year

Yeah probably regions demanding that they get spots, because why would they otherwise pay the players levy. I assume Lakeside wants its rooms full and a lot of audience, and more players will do that. They get rooms filled in a otherwise slow period.

[oche balboa]

I don't disagree, it could clearly still function with a decent crowd as a short sharp 16 man/8 woman event held over maybe 4 evenings and 2 weekend daytimes though.

Men L16 and Women's L8 on Thursday and Friday night (6 games each night)

Men's L8 and Women's semis on Saturday (3 games in afternoon, 3 in evening)
1
Men's semis Sunday afternoon (shove a Youth final in if you must)

Both finals Sunday night.

There we go, I've fixed it. Someone tell Nick Rolls.

Ok try and tell other orgs that there places have gone. WDF would lose its prime function. Its bulit on 48 for many players from different nations to have players involved as they pay into the system

Square that and you might be on to something

[oche balboa]

I can see why they made the field bigger, they want to incentivise players to play the tour throughout the year and accumulate points even if they’re not at the level of let’s say someone like Baetans. With a small world championship field people probably wouldn’t bother throughout the year

There are plenty of nations involved. WDF isn't the BDO its serving not as a to "Compete" with the PDC but to serve its members by offering spots in their system so the players from other countries don't have to break the bank and come to a western europe orientated tour

[willem0000]

If you bring it to 40M and 20F you could drop the afternoons on mon, tue and maybe wed. Those sessions hurt the product, and the screensshots will be shared on social media.

Does anybody has a clue where they gonna fit those 4 extra boys and 2 extra girls matches? They have added a Friday evening at the start, but i cant see them being played then because of the costs for the youth.

[The Ginge Reaper]

I don't disagree, it could clearly still function with a decent crowd as a short sharp 16 man/8 woman event held over maybe 4 evenings and 2 weekend daytimes though.

Men L16 and Women's L8 on Thursday and Friday night (6 games each night)

Men's L8 and Women's semis on Saturday (3 games in afternoon, 3 in evening)
1
Men's semis Sunday afternoon (shove a Youth final in if you must)

Both finals Sunday night.

There we go, I've fixed it. Someone tell Nick Rolls.

Ok try and tell other orgs that there places have gone. WDF would lose its prime function. Its bulit on 48 for many players from different nations to have players involved as they pay into the system

Square that and you might be on to something

Play anything before L16 men and L8 women behind closed doors before the event.

There, sorted.

[Cooking with Sandra]

[Rogg]

I don't disagree, it could clearly still function with a decent crowd as a short sharp 16 man/8 woman event held over maybe 4 evenings and 2 weekend daytimes though.

Men L16 and Women's L8 on Thursday and Friday night (6 games each night)

Men's L8 and Women's semis on Saturday (3 games in afternoon, 3 in evening)
1
Men's semis Sunday afternoon (shove a Youth final in if you must)

Both finals Sunday night.

There we go, I've fixed it. Someone tell Nick Rolls.

Ok try and tell other orgs that there places have gone. WDF would lose its prime function. Its bulit on 48 for many players from different nations to have players involved as they pay into the system

Square that and you might be on to something

I thought you were in favour of cutting the field.

[willem0000]

Sat Aft 401 9940


Total 4347 202450
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That 9940 for 401 tickets at the second Saturday seems wrong, or am I missing something