Taylor will be a bit bitter that he caused the surge in prize money yet others, like MvG, are getting more financial rewards from it. At the same time, he'll be proud as well as bitter. Eric didn't teach Phil when to let go, only how to win, ruthlessly. When Eric was no longer the best, he could accept it. Phil had a much tougher time accepting that, and never really did. He hated towards the end of his career that he couldn't just play one tournament and immediately play another tournament as he had done in the past, because he was now too tired. And there was MvG at his best, being utterly ruthless.
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The game of darts had changed about 0% in any of our lifetime, at least in what it is fundamentally about. There are no advanced tactics, no great managers influencing things, no brilliant new gym techniques or training methods to improve things and make comparisons especially difficult.
It's folk hoying sharp spears at a board from a specified distance to get down to zero from 501 points. The best way today was the best was in the 1970s: bundle as many darts as possible into the t20 and use the rest of the board to finish what you are left.
The only things which have significantly changed (in this context) are the boards and the darts.
It's folk hoying sharp spears at a board from a specified distance to get down to zero from 501 points. The best way today was the best was in the 1970s: bundle as many darts as possible into the t20 and use the rest of the board to finish what you are left.
The only things which have significantly changed (in this context) are the boards and the darts.
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Many players still compete sozzled.ChrisW wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:33 amAt 16 the long terms effects won't have had time to kick in.meetthefeebles wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:31 amHoway. There is a bairn just run through half a world championship field who boasts lovingly of living off kebabs and 'buying loads of vapes' with his winnings.ChrisW wrote:It's not as simple as board technology changing as with any sport. Dart technology has improved. Players are improving. Diet, preparation, sleep, management, psychology.
All of it adds a point or two. Not one factor but many.
The boards thing has always been an obsession on forums because it was a BDO v PDC thing. Now both WDF and PDC use Winmau it still continues what does that tell you?
Diet, preparation and psychology my hole![]()
I'm sure you remember once feeling invincible at that age.
MVG smokes, Smith is obese, etc.
It's still very much a pub game.
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I didn't live off kebabs at 16. I did smoke loads, thoughChrisW wrote:At 16 the long terms effects won't have had time to kick in.meetthefeebles wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:31 amHoway. There is a bairn just run through half a world championship field who boasts lovingly of living off kebabs and 'buying loads of vapes' with his winnings.ChrisW wrote:It's not as simple as board technology changing as with any sport. Dart technology has improved. Players are improving. Diet, preparation, sleep, management, psychology.
All of it adds a point or two. Not one factor but many.
The boards thing has always been an obsession on forums because it was a BDO v PDC thing. Now both WDF and PDC use Winmau it still continues what does that tell you?
Diet, preparation and psychology my hole![]()
I'm sure you remember once feeling invincible at that age.

The point still stands.
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Chisnall is a great example of someone who doesn't prepare well for tournaments. How many majors has he won?
Look at who are winning consistently and you will see players who prepare well. Was always Taylor's way.
Look at who are winning consistently and you will see players who prepare well. Was always Taylor's way.
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The lad is obese at 16. That's not a criticism - what he does is his business - but to claim that diet and preparation are key factors when Littler is running riot through the field isn't great timing.sennafan24 wrote:Many players still compete sozzled.ChrisW wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:33 amAt 16 the long terms effects won't have had time to kick in.meetthefeebles wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:31 amHoway. There is a bairn just run through half a world championship field who boasts lovingly of living off kebabs and 'buying loads of vapes' with his winnings.ChrisW wrote:It's not as simple as board technology changing as with any sport. Dart technology has improved. Players are improving. Diet, preparation, sleep, management, psychology.
All of it adds a point or two. Not one factor but many.
The boards thing has always been an obsession on forums because it was a BDO v PDC thing. Now both WDF and PDC use Winmau it still continues what does that tell you?
Diet, preparation and psychology my hole![]()
I'm sure you remember once feeling invincible at that age.
MVG smokes, Smith is obese, etc.
It's still very much a pub game.
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Taylor was a money obsessed, sociopathic winning machine. He was absolutely the exception and not the rule.ChrisW wrote:Chisnall is a great example of someone who doesn't prepare well for tournaments. How many majors has he won?
Look at who are winning consistently and you will see players who prepare well. Was always Taylor's way.
Almost every other successful darts player in history is an obese pisshead.
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Wonder how many kebabs he had tonight?, i would say 3.
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+1sennafan24 wrote:Many players still compete sozzled.ChrisW wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:33 amAt 16 the long terms effects won't have had time to kick in.meetthefeebles wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:31 amHoway. There is a bairn just run through half a world championship field who boasts lovingly of living off kebabs and 'buying loads of vapes' with his winnings.ChrisW wrote:It's not as simple as board technology changing as with any sport. Dart technology has improved. Players are improving. Diet, preparation, sleep, management, psychology.
All of it adds a point or two. Not one factor but many.
The boards thing has always been an obsession on forums because it was a BDO v PDC thing. Now both WDF and PDC use Winmau it still continues what does that tell you?
Diet, preparation and psychology my hole![]()
I'm sure you remember once feeling invincible at that age.
MVG smokes, Smith is obese, etc.
It's still very much a pub game.
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Yeah, I enjoyed all of that.PT13 wrote:Taylor will be a bit bitter that he caused the surge in prize money yet others, like MvG, are getting more financial rewards from it. At the same time, he'll be proud as well as bitter. Eric didn't teach Phil when to let go, only how to win, ruthlessly. When Eric was no longer the best, he could accept it. Phil had a much tougher time accepting that, and never really did. He hated towards the end of his career that he couldn't just play one tournament and immediately play another tournament as he had done in the past, because he was now too tired. And there was MvG at his best, being utterly ruthless.
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Imagine Chizzy with a psychologist...shenmue wrote:Got some bottle on him though, shame he can't give some to chizzymeetthefeebles wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:31 amHoway. There is a bairn just run through half a world championship field who boasts lovingly of living off kebabs and 'buying loads of vapes' with his winnings.ChrisW wrote:It's not as simple as board technology changing as with any sport. Dart technology has improved. Players are improving. Diet, preparation, sleep, management, psychology.
All of it adds a point or two. Not one factor but many.
The boards thing has always been an obsession on forums because it was a BDO v PDC thing. Now both WDF and PDC use Winmau it still continues what does that tell you?
Diet, preparation and psychology my hole![]()

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His demise took long enough to come but it was still satisfying for sure.meetthefeebles wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:41 amYeah, I enjoyed all of that.PT13 wrote:Taylor will be a bit bitter that he caused the surge in prize money yet others, like MvG, are getting more financial rewards from it. At the same time, he'll be proud as well as bitter. Eric didn't teach Phil when to let go, only how to win, ruthlessly. When Eric was no longer the best, he could accept it. Phil had a much tougher time accepting that, and never really did. He hated towards the end of his career that he couldn't just play one tournament and immediately play another tournament as he had done in the past, because he was now too tired. And there was MvG at his best, being utterly ruthless.
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Scary.meetthefeebles wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:42 amImagine Chizzy with a psychologist...shenmue wrote:Got some bottle on him though, shame he can't give some to chizzymeetthefeebles wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:31 amHoway. There is a bairn just run through half a world championship field who boasts lovingly of living off kebabs and 'buying loads of vapes' with his winnings.ChrisW wrote:It's not as simple as board technology changing as with any sport. Dart technology has improved. Players are improving. Diet, preparation, sleep, management, psychology.
All of it adds a point or two. Not one factor but many.
The boards thing has always been an obsession on forums because it was a BDO v PDC thing. Now both WDF and PDC use Winmau it still continues what does that tell you?
Diet, preparation and psychology my hole![]()
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MvG in a newspaper article the other day said that he knocked Taylor to the floor during the 2017 Grand Slam, after Phil was shadow boxing him and talking about Ricky Hatton. This was the tournament when Phil Taylor was at his most bitter, by far, and mostly took it out on Daryl Gurney. Eric Bristow publicly commented on twitter at the time that it was a shame that Phil Taylor couldn't lose with more humility after MvG beat him in the semis. I remember thinking "Eric, you taught Phil how he must be a ruthless winner. You never told him how to stop".
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You got a copy of that article you share at all?PT13 wrote:MvG in a newspaper article the other day said that he knocked Taylor to the floor during the 2017 Grand Slam, after Phil was shadow boxing him and talking about Ricky Hatton. This was the tournament when Phil Taylor was at his most bitter, by far, and mostly took it out on Daryl Gurney. Eric Bristow publicly commented on twitter at the time that it was a shame that Phil Taylor couldn't lose with more humility after MvG beat him in the semis. I remember thinking "Eric, you taught Phil how he must be a ruthless winner. You never told him how to stop".
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sp ... c-31778105meetthefeebles wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:02 amYou got a copy of that article you share at all?PT13 wrote:MvG in a newspaper article the other day said that he knocked Taylor to the floor during the 2017 Grand Slam, after Phil was shadow boxing him and talking about Ricky Hatton. This was the tournament when Phil Taylor was at his most bitter, by far, and mostly took it out on Daryl Gurney. Eric Bristow publicly commented on twitter at the time that it was a shame that Phil Taylor couldn't lose with more humility after MvG beat him in the semis. I remember thinking "Eric, you taught Phil how he must be a ruthless winner. You never told him how to stop".
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Shame there isn't a video of the prowler being punched by the goblin, would be orgasmic viewing.
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Scott taylor is a cracking little playerPT13 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:04 amhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sp ... c-31778105meetthefeebles wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:02 amYou got a copy of that article you share at all?PT13 wrote:MvG in a newspaper article the other day said that he knocked Taylor to the floor during the 2017 Grand Slam, after Phil was shadow boxing him and talking about Ricky Hatton. This was the tournament when Phil Taylor was at his most bitter, by far, and mostly took it out on Daryl Gurney. Eric Bristow publicly commented on twitter at the time that it was a shame that Phil Taylor couldn't lose with more humility after MvG beat him in the semis. I remember thinking "Eric, you taught Phil how he must be a ruthless winner. You never told him how to stop".
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