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Welcome back mateLord Vader wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:42 pmHe did. Sign of the end times with Smith winning the Worlds.
Taylor is smiling somewhere tonight.
Thanks and oh yeah no doubt.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:02 amWelcome back mateLord Vader wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:42 pmHe did. Sign of the end times with Smith winning the Worlds.
Taylor is smiling somewhere tonight.
Taylor is a cunt though
I remember being absolutely gobsmacked that Peter Wright won 3 years ago, MvG wasn't at his brilliant best at that point, but he was certainly the best in the world and Wright had a deserved reputation for being a bottler, I think that moment really changed the game
Wright outplayed him from the first dart.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:24 am So we are standing with MVG still having 3 world titles. Definitely underachieving
Now has won as many finals as he has lost. And in the ones he won, only Anderson took the game to him, Wright and Smith underperformed
Still the 2nd greatest player ever but these are the games that define your legacy. Taylor will be laughing in his campervan
"In the ones he won"Jimmi wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:25 amWright outplayed him from the first dart.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:24 am So we are standing with MVG still having 3 world titles. Definitely underachieving
Now has won as many finals as he has lost. And in the ones he won, only Anderson took the game to him, Wright and Smith underperformed
Still the 2nd greatest player ever but these are the games that define your legacy. Taylor will be laughing in his campervan
Taylor used to get a lot of stick when he wasn't reigning world champion, like after Part beat him in 2003. MvG gets away with that situation much more, even back in 2016, 2018, 2020 etc.
John Part said it at the time before that 2020 final, that after you get cut and scarred so much as Wright had against MvG for so long, eventually you're no longer scared of getting cut anymore. Basically a "Fuck it, just win the match" moment. At that time, the fear of losing and/or choking yet again has become very small because it's happened so often.thegentle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:55 amI remember being absolutely gobsmacked that Peter Wright won 3 years ago, MvG wasn't at his brilliant best at that point, but he was certainly the best in the world and Wright had a deserved reputation for being a bottler, I think that moment really changed the game
Perhaps even more. He was big tournament favourite in 2016 and lost to Barney in the Last 16, was tournament favourite in 2018 and lost to Cross in the semis after having had 6 match darts (although Cross had the first match dart), and was clear favourite before both 2020 and 2023 finals and lost them. 2015 and 2013 were possibilities, but those were before he was really dominating darts from week to week, month to month from February 2015 to the summer of 2017, and the slightly below peak form after that until the pandemic struck. Getting whitewashed by Chizzy in 2021 was pretty bad too.tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:28 am 3 is definitely an underachievement for Billy...He really should have had 5 by now
I think MVG will win at least 2 or 3 more.Suspect Device wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:04 am Goblin tells it pretty straight. Anything other than a win for him is failure. He thought he was unbeatable. Belly had other ideas. Those self doubts could creep back in. Nevermind a 4th and 5th, will he ever become pdc world champion again?
The Doyen!