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Is Michael van Gerwen finished?
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Re: Is Michael van Gerwen finished?
The 2001 version of DBG would be top 16 in the WDF.
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You just behave like an ideological nutcase nowadays. You love shifting 'Taylor in his pomp' along the timeline. But only ever In one direction. It's dishonest.
If you want to succeed in making an actual point, drop him into the 80s too. Or let's just play Fawlty Towers game 5!
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Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:27 am You just behave like an ideological nutcase nowadays. You love shifting 'Taylor in his pomp' along the timeline. But only ever In one direction. It's dishonest.
If you want to succeed in making an actual point, drop him into the 80s too. Or let's just play Fawlty Towers game 5!

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Harder to drop him backRogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:27 amYou just behave like an ideological nutcase nowadays. You love shifting 'Taylor in his pomp' along the timeline. But only ever In one direction. It's dishonest.
If you want to succeed in making an actual point, drop him into the 80s too. Or let's just play Fawlty Towers game 5!
Bristow would never have tutored him in the early 80s

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I didn't realise you were being so scientific. I'll put on my white coat and grab a test tube mate.Randall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:23 pmHarder to drop him backRogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:27 amYou just behave like an ideological nutcase nowadays. You love shifting 'Taylor in his pomp' along the timeline. But only ever In one direction. It's dishonest.
If you want to succeed in making an actual point, drop him into the 80s too. Or let's just play Fawlty Towers game 5!
Bristow would never have tutored him in the early 80s
It's fantasy scenarios Randy! You can do anything. Do you not like to think of pomp Doug wiping Lowey off the map?
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Re: Is Michael van Gerwen finished?
Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:55 pmI didn't realise you were being so scientific. I'll put on my white coat and grab a test tube mate.Randall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:23 pmHarder to drop him backRogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:27 amYou just behave like an ideological nutcase nowadays. You love shifting 'Taylor in his pomp' along the timeline. But only ever In one direction. It's dishonest.
If you want to succeed in making an actual point, drop him into the 80s too. Or let's just play Fawlty Towers game 5!
Bristow would never have tutored him in the early 80s
It's fantasy scenarios Randy! You can do anything. Do you not like to think of pomp Doug wiping Lowey off the map?

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Re: Is Michael van Gerwen finished?
The player Taylor became may never have happenedRogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:55 pmI didn't realise you were being so scientific. I'll put on my white coat and grab a test tube mate.Randall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:23 pmHarder to drop him backRogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:27 amYou just behave like an ideological nutcase nowadays. You love shifting 'Taylor in his pomp' along the timeline. But only ever In one direction. It's dishonest.
If you want to succeed in making an actual point, drop him into the 80s too. Or let's just play Fawlty Towers game 5!
Bristow would never have tutored him in the early 80s
It's fantasy scenarios Randy! You can do anything. Do you not like to think of pomp Doug wiping Lowey off the map?
In the same way Taylor would have strangled prime mvg in infancy

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Gulp.
It's a fair point though. Wherever Taylor's pomp falls, the rest are getting broadly killed. Battles would always be won, as you often say, but never the war. Not against Taylor.
Yes the players who came after Doug (AD) are lucky that they never had to cope with the beast, but so are the players who came before the cunt (BC). That's all I'm saying really.
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I'm not asking you to split the atom with a comb am I. Just drop him into the 80s ffs. If you refuse then I'll do it myself and you can kiss Lowey goodbye.Randall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:04 pmThe player Taylor became may never have happenedRogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:55 pmI didn't realise you were being so scientific. I'll put on my white coat and grab a test tube mate.Randall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:23 pmHarder to drop him backRogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:27 amYou just behave like an ideological nutcase nowadays. You love shifting 'Taylor in his pomp' along the timeline. But only ever In one direction. It's dishonest.
If you want to succeed in making an actual point, drop him into the 80s too. Or let's just play Fawlty Towers game 5!
Bristow would never have tutored him in the early 80s
It's fantasy scenarios Randy! You can do anything. Do you not like to think of pomp Doug wiping Lowey off the map?
In the same way Taylor would have strangled prime mvg in infancy
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Re: Is Michael van Gerwen finished?
Very soon the majority of modern fans will have never seen Taylor play

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New Year's Day will mark a decade since he won the Worlds. Not many young folks today will have witnessed it.
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It's a fair point.Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:11 pm Gulp.
It's a fair point though. Wherever Taylor's pomp falls, the rest are getting broadly killed. Battles would always be won, as you often say, but never the war. Not against Taylor.
Yes the players who came after Doug (AD) are lucky that they never had to cope with the beast, but so are the players who came before the cunt (BC). That's all I'm saying really.
Even if we acknowledge that Taylor was a product of Bristow, and therefore had to succeed him, then we have to also acknowledge that Jocky, Lowe, Deller, Bob, etc were lucky they shared the same era as the master rather than the protégé. The master had a 9 year span between 77 and the 86 World Championship where he won most of the major events, then only won one major event after that. The protégé dominated for longer and during his peak periods he was unplayable.
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Twitter is full of people who have no idea how good he was
Seduced by modern averages

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I agree with this.
Darts Twitter is fucking dire.
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It truly is
Utterly clueless

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Its not really. Its a fun place
The truth, however ugly in itself, is always curious and beautiful to seekers after it.

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Re: Is Michael van Gerwen finished?
Lowe was given as good as he got against Taylor well into the 2000sRogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:18 pmI'm not asking you to split the atom with a comb am I. Just drop him into the 80s ffs. If you refuse then I'll do it myself and you can kiss Lowey goodbye.Randall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:04 pmThe player Taylor became may never have happenedRogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:55 pmI didn't realise you were being so scientific. I'll put on my white coat and grab a test tube mate.Randall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:23 pmHarder to drop him backRogg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:27 am
You just behave like an ideological nutcase nowadays. You love shifting 'Taylor in his pomp' along the timeline. But only ever In one direction. It's dishonest.
If you want to succeed in making an actual point, drop him into the 80s too. Or let's just play Fawlty Towers game 5!
Bristow would never have tutored him in the early 80s
It's fantasy scenarios Randy! You can do anything. Do you not like to think of pomp Doug wiping Lowey off the map?
In the same way Taylor would have strangled prime mvg in infancy

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