Should Fallon get an invitational Tour Card?

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Should Fallon get an invitational Tour Card?

Post by vizIIsto » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:31 pm

I think if we want to discuss whether Fallon Sherrock should be in the PL or not, this is the question we need to ask first.

Here's my view on it.
I think Fallon should get an invitational Tour Card. The PDC has done similar invitations in the past, for example for BDO Worlds finalists, or when they did the Women's Worlds in 2010. Similarly, the snooker tour has dealt out invitational Tour Cards to Jimmy White and Ken Doherty a bunch of times now, and also to Marco Fu and Stephen Hendry in recent years, because of their contributions to the snooker world.

As a side note, I wouldn't mind it if the winner of the Women's Series would get a Tour Card in the same way that the winners of the Challenge and Development tours get one.




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Re: Should Fallon get an invitational Tour Card?

Post by The Thorn » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:41 pm

I have to say no because of my principles. My view hasn't changed on this. It's one thing to put people into PL and World Series events and it's another to put them in ranking events. Get her in the PL fine but make her earn that tour card. No, I don't care that the PL players supposedly need to have a card, that's a throwaway rule that can be changed.

If the Women's Series winner were to get a card from next year, that would be fine. Especially as I think they are expanding the Women's Series now. But it shouldn't work retrospectively.
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Re: Should Fallon get an invitational Tour Card?

Post by Randall » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:47 pm

No
The tour itself shouldn't be sacrificed at the alter
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Post by The Thorn » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:48 pm

Randall wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:47 pm No
The tour itself shouldn't be sacrificed at the alter
Agreed.

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Post by Noob » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:02 pm

I'd think she'd want to get in purely based on merit. So no, let her eventually get there, be it this year or the next.

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Post by oche balboa » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:06 pm

Yes she won the Womens Series
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Re: Should Fallon get an invitational Tour Card?

Post by Safc » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:13 pm

oche balboa wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:06 pm Yes she won the Womens Series
Do you think the winner of

CDC
DPA
EADC
Nordic and Baltic
Asian Tour

Should all get a card aswell ?
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Post by The Gronk » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:14 pm

No, she should earn her tour card. If the PDC decide to award one for winning the Women's Series from next year onwards fair enough. She should not retrospectively be awarded a card for achievements thus far. I wouldn't be overly surprised if she was to win enough prize money at GSOD & the worlds to get a card outright though as she can clearly play to a good standard and has big stage temperament.

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Post by oche balboa » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:14 pm

Valid point but I'm on about her Marketability rather then the status and use that as an excuse then change the rules
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Post by Randall » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:15 pm

The money at the gsod and Worlds wouldn't count on a merit table without a tour card?
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Post by The Gronk » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:16 pm

Randall wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:15 pm The money at the gsod and Worlds wouldn't count on a merit table without a tour card?
I thought it did, happy to stand corrected if not though.

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Re: Should Fallon get an invitational Tour Card?

Post by Randall » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:18 pm

The Gronk wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:16 pm
Randall wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:15 pm The money at the gsod and Worlds wouldn't count on a merit table without a tour card?
I thought it did, happy to stand corrected if not though.
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Post by TheMalteseDart » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:19 pm

Randall wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:15 pm The money at the gsod and Worlds wouldn't count on a merit table without a tour card?
Ratajski got his card this way so it is possible
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Post by The Gronk » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:19 pm

Currently 99th on the tour card race https://www.dartsrankings.com/postwch

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Re: Should Fallon get an invitational Tour Card?

Post by Randall » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:22 pm

Oh

I'm surprised at that
So how far does she need to go at this and the Worlds to just get one automatically anyway?
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Post by The Gronk » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:26 pm

If that list is correct in that it is official, it looks like the getting to the semi finals in the GSOD along with her Worlds money would put her just inside the top 64 going into the worlds (haven't bothered to check about other calculations of other players).

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Re: Should Fallon get an invitational Tour Card?

Post by Randall » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:29 pm

The Gronk wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:26 pm If that list is correct in that it is official, it looks like the getting to the semi finals in the GSOD along with her Worlds money would put her just inside the top 64 going into the worlds (haven't bothered to check about other calculations of other players).
Probably going to have to beat Mensur and Wright
Over best of 19 maybe mensur, especially if he freezes again
31 against Wright is a big ask
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Re: Should Fallon get an invitational Tour Card?

Post by The Gronk » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:37 pm

Randall wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:29 pm
The Gronk wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:26 pm If that list is correct in that it is official, it looks like the getting to the semi finals in the GSOD along with her Worlds money would put her just inside the top 64 going into the worlds (haven't bothered to check about other calculations of other players).
Probably going to have to beat Mensur and Wright
Over best of 19 maybe mensur, especially if he freezes again
31 against Wright is a big ask
Very true, but if she gets past Mensur (very possible), neither Wright or De Sousa have been on top form recently. If she plays her best and they don't it is a coin flip. Although like you say 31 legs is a big ask.

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Re: Should Fallon get an invitational Tour Card?

Post by The Thorn » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:40 pm

Safc wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:13 pm
oche balboa wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:06 pm Yes she won the Womens Series
Do you think the winner of

CDC
DPA
EADC
Nordic and Baltic
Asian Tour

Should all get a card aswell ?
Actually that wouldn't be a bad idea. As long as they turn up to play the events
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Re: Should Fallon get an invitational Tour Card?

Post by vizIIsto » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:42 pm

The Gronk wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:26 pm If that list is correct in that it is official, it looks like the getting to the semi finals in the GSOD along with her Worlds money would put her just inside the top 64 going into the worlds (haven't bothered to check about other calculations of other players).
According to the Tour Card Race, it can be summarized as this:
If Sherrock reaches the final she's got it.
If she reaches the semi-final, she's got 47.5k with a first round loss at the Worlds. I think it's going to be super close this way. She may be the 65th player that gets a TC when Gary quits the tour for example (which I think he may).
If she reaches the quarters, she would need to reach the third round at the Worlds for 45k. Again this would be super close.
If she loses to Suljovic tomorrow, a fourth round exit at the Worlds is also 45k.

So she probably needs to win three if not four matches more in this GS and the Worlds total.




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