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In the 15 games that Spineless played on route to his 3 "World Titles", this was the standard of his opposition.

0/15 averaged over 95.

4/15 averaged over 90.

11/15 averaged below 90.

Adams's averages over these 15 games:

4/15 averaged over 95.

11/15 averaged below 95.

Other than 2010, where he averaged in the mid-90s throughout most of the tournament, he mostly averaged in the early 90s over these 15 games, usually around 90-92. At no point was he in the top 3 in the world either. Truth be told, he probably wasn't even top 5 during these years.

In short, Martin Adams, along with Duzza and Headshaker, is the most overrated darts player in history.

Still better than Rod Harrington. Achieved far little over a longer period of time considering the level of the BDO so he's more of an 'all-time' great than someone who was a dominant force in the shadows of only Phil Taylor for a much shorter timeframe.

vizIIsto wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:17 pm Still better than Rod Harrington. Achieved far little over a longer period of time considering the level of the BDO so he's more of an 'all-time' great than someone who was a dominant force in the shadows of only Phil Taylor for a much shorter timeframe.

Nobody says that Harrington is an all-time great though, do they?

Adams would have also been in Taylor's shadow in the 90s had he competed in the PDC.

He is an all time good but not great but deserves credit for his achievements and longevity

Not in the top 20, prob not top 30 either.

I've never seen anyone claim he is an all time great?

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:24 pm I've never seen anyone claim he is an all time great?

Gwynne claimed that he was one of the best players he had ever seen.

Mardle also rated him in his top 10 players ever above Lowe.

There was also this Tweet of his.

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:30 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:24 pm I've never seen anyone claim he is an all time great?

Gwynne claimed that he was one of the best players he had ever seen.

Mardle also rated him in his top 10 players ever above Lowe.

There was also this Tweet of his.

That's not a typo.

The only thing Martin Adams is great at is laughing at history.

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:32 pm edited out for length

Bobby George and Ted Hankey are musts for a top 10 in any darts-related list. Seriously. Tell me a top 10 darts list these names wouldn't fit in.

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:30 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:24 pm I've never seen anyone claim he is an all time great?

Gwynne claimed that he was one of the best players he had ever seen.

Mardle also rated him in his top 10 players ever above Lowe.

There was also this Tweet of his.

Nobody takes mardle seriously

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:32 pm

Who spouted this bollocks?
Better than lowe?
What a joke

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:48 pm Who spouted this bollocks?
Better than lowe?
What a joke

Mardle.

But again, Gwynne and other have said similar things.

Here is another list where he's ranked in the top 10 - https://sportsshow.net/greatest-darts-players/

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:51 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:48 pm Who spouted this bollocks?
Better than lowe?
What a joke

Mardle.

But again, Gwynne and other have said similar things.

Here is another list where he's ranked in the top 10 - https://sportsshow.net/greatest-darts-players/

Ridiculous
That 2nd list is even worse

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:52 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:51 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:48 pm Who spouted this bollocks?
Better than lowe?
What a joke

Mardle.

But again, Gwynne and other have said similar things.

Here is another list where he's ranked in the top 10 - https://sportsshow.net/greatest-darts-players/

Ridiculous
That 2nd list is even worse

Headshaker above MVG and Bristow ffs.

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:56 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:52 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:51 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:48 pm Who spouted this bollocks?
Better than lowe?
What a joke

Mardle.

But again, Gwynne and other have said similar things.

Here is another list where he's ranked in the top 10 - https://sportsshow.net/greatest-darts-players/

Ridiculous
That 2nd list is even worse

Headshaker above MVG and Bristow ffs.

It’s an opinion just like yours, I cannot believe anybody would get upset about it. Any all time great list is subjective anyway.
I think the top 5 picks itself in my opinion, the order you could maybe tweak.
Taylor
MVG
Bristow
Barney
Lowe

I’ve seen Adams in top 10 lists, I don’t agree personally but I would think he warrants top 15
Barney is a top 5 shoe in which I think many would agree with.

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:52 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:51 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:48 pm Who spouted this bollocks?
Better than lowe?
What a joke

Mardle.

But again, Gwynne and other have said similar things.

Here is another list where he's ranked in the top 10 - https://sportsshow.net/greatest-darts-players/

Ridiculous
That 2nd list is even worse

I’m a massive Wade fan but even I had to double take when I saw him at 5 I have seen this poll before.

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:56 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:52 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:51 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:48 pm Who spouted this bollocks?
Better than lowe?
What a joke

Mardle.

But again, Gwynne and other have said similar things.

Here is another list where he's ranked in the top 10 - https://sportsshow.net/greatest-darts-players/

Ridiculous
That 2nd list is even worse

Headshaker above MVG and Bristow ffs.

Bristow would have fucking crucified barney

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:17 pm I’ve seen Adams in top 10 lists, I don’t agree personally but I would think he warrants top 15
Barney is a top 5 shoe in which I think many would agree with.

And many others would disagree.