Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

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Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

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Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by Emulsfier » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:13 pm

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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by Cooking with Sandra » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:14 pm

Yes. The players that earn them.
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Post by The Thorn » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:17 pm

Emu if you want to speak technically then no. You only deserve a card if you earn it under the appropriate rules. They are the same for every player.

My point was that the system has serious flaws.
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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by Emulsfier » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:21 pm

The Thorn wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:17 pm Emu if you want to speak technically then no. You only deserve a card if you earn it under the appropriate rules. They are the same for every player.

My point was that the system has serious flaws.
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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by FoundSidInTheBar » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:27 pm

Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:14 pm Yes. The players that earn them.
+1. It's a meritocracy. If you can't win at Q School, you'll be gash on the tour anyway.

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Post by The Thorn » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:29 pm

FoundSidInTheBar wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:27 pm
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:14 pm Yes. The players that earn them.
+1. It's a meritocracy. If you can't win at Q School, you'll be gash on the tour anyway.
Aye, just like Ratajski who won 3 tour events without having a tour card

Uninformed opinion.
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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by FoundSidInTheBar » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:29 pm

The Thorn wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:29 pm
FoundSidInTheBar wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:27 pm
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:14 pm Yes. The players that earn them.
+1. It's a meritocracy. If you can't win at Q School, you'll be gash on the tour anyway.
Aye, just like Ratajski who won 3 tour events without having a tour card

Uninformed opinion.
Knob off you spamming cunt.

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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by Emulsfier » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:34 pm

FoundSidInTheBar wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:29 pm
The Thorn wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:29 pm
FoundSidInTheBar wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:27 pm
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:14 pm Yes. The players that earn them.
+1. It's a meritocracy. If you can't win at Q School, you'll be gash on the tour anyway.
Aye, just like Ratajski who won 3 tour events without having a tour card

Uninformed opinion.
Knob off you spamming cunt.
Well said.
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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by thegentle » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:42 pm

The Thorn wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:29 pm
FoundSidInTheBar wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:27 pm
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:14 pm Yes. The players that earn them.
+1. It's a meritocracy. If you can't win at Q School, you'll be gash on the tour anyway.
Aye, just like Ratajski who won 3 tour events without having a tour card

Uninformed opinion.
The odd player slips through the cracks from time to time, but there are so many chances, be it on the ProTour, Challenge Tour, or indeed the next season at Q-School to win a card again, if you can't do that, then what does that say about you?
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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by The Thorn » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:43 pm

thegentle wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:42 pm
The Thorn wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:29 pm
FoundSidInTheBar wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:27 pm
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:14 pm Yes. The players that earn them.
+1. It's a meritocracy. If you can't win at Q School, you'll be gash on the tour anyway.
Aye, just like Ratajski who won 3 tour events without having a tour card

Uninformed opinion.
The odd player slips through the cracks from time to time, but there are so many chances, be it on the ProTour, Challenge Tour, or indeed the next season at Q-School to win a card again, if you can't do that, then what does that say about you?
Nothing. It's just a waste not seeing guys like Baetens and Pilgrim on the tour when they are more than good enough to cut it. There is always next year but the earlier they get there the better for everyone.

So many chances is a stretch when Challenge Tour offers 2 cards. In this climate and with the standard of the CT that's fuck all.
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Post by FoundSidInTheBar » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:43 pm

Exactly, runs in a few tournaments does not a Pro Tour player make, necessarily.

If you're that good you should be beating enough players at Q School to win a card, if you ain't, you'll struggle on the floor anyway. This is true for 99.99% of darts players. It's just inarguable.

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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by TheMalteseDart » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:50 pm

I don't know the correct number of cards to be granted to Challenge Tour, but I think it should be more than 2. Nothing excessive though, 4 or 5? The cream will rise to the top eventually though
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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by Cooking with Sandra » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:04 pm

FoundSidInTheBar wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:29 pm
The Thorn wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:29 pm
FoundSidInTheBar wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:27 pm
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:14 pm Yes. The players that earn them.
+1. It's a meritocracy. If you can't win at Q School, you'll be gash on the tour anyway.
Aye, just like Ratajski who won 3 tour events without having a tour card

Uninformed opinion.
Knob off you spamming cunt.
+1
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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by tungsten tossers » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:09 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:50 pm I don't know the correct number of cards to be granted to Challenge Tour, but I think it should be more than 2. Nothing excessive though, 4 or 5? The cream will rise to the top eventually though
This..

4 is a decent amount

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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by Cooking with Sandra » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:09 pm

Might as well do away with Q School if you’re going to give freebies down the list of the other tours, there are barely enough to justify it now anyway.
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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by Randall » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:45 pm

Am I to assume its going badly for the wdf "elite" ?
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Post by Cooking with Sandra » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:46 pm

Randall wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:45 pm Am I to assume its going badly for the wdf "elite" ?
Six of the World Professional Darts Championship competitors in the card positions as it stands.
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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by sennafan24 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:47 pm

thegentle wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:42 pm
The Thorn wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:29 pm
FoundSidInTheBar wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:27 pm
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:14 pm Yes. The players that earn them.
+1. It's a meritocracy. If you can't win at Q School, you'll be gash on the tour anyway.
Aye, just like Ratajski who won 3 tour events without having a tour card

Uninformed opinion.
The odd player slips through the cracks from time to time, but there are so many chances, be it on the ProTour, Challenge Tour, or indeed the next season at Q-School to win a card again, if you can't do that, then what does that say about you?
+1
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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by Cooking with Sandra » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:47 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:47 pm
thegentle wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:42 pm
The Thorn wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:29 pm
FoundSidInTheBar wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:27 pm
Cooking with Sanchez wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:14 pm Yes. The players that earn them.
+1. It's a meritocracy. If you can't win at Q School, you'll be gash on the tour anyway.
Aye, just like Ratajski who won 3 tour events without having a tour card

Uninformed opinion.
The odd player slips through the cracks from time to time, but there are so many chances, be it on the ProTour, Challenge Tour, or indeed the next season at Q-School to win a card again, if you can't do that, then what does that say about you?
+1
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Re: Are there players that "deserve" tour cards?

Post by Randall » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:48 pm

Is this good news or bad news for the wdf system?
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