The evolution of dartboards (sponsored by Randall and Rogg)

[shenmue]

The article says he threw the prowler down not punched him but would still be a funny vid.

[meetthefeebles]

Fucking picture here...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/25205325 ... lry-fight/

[meetthefeebles]

Shame there isn't a video of the prowler being punched by the goblin, would be orgasmic viewing.

Sex-wee worthy

[shenmue]

Throwing the prowler with boxing gloves on is impressive.

[sennafan24]

MVG discusses it in this video:

[meetthefeebles]

The best thing is that you can picture it perfectly. That daft cunt was always chuntering on about Ricky Hatton.

[shenmue]

Robbie Williams and Ronnie o'sullivan got a regular mention as well, shame the goblin didn't smash the prowler over the head with Ronnie's cue.

[sennafan24]

"I was texting with Conor McGregor earlier"

[thegentle]

Also, in addition to the boards, there's the fact that starting with Phil Taylor and the "Uniboffin" in 2008, when Taylor's form went through the roof, there has also been an increasing focus scientifically on the darts missiles themselves.

Could you elaborate on this please?

Phil Taylor lost the 2007 World Championship final to Raymond van Barneveld in a sudden death leg. Despite the very high standard, Phil knew that something had to change. He tried changing his darts in early 2007, but it didn't work out, so he switched back. That seemed to return his old form for a while, but a few months later all the old problems came back, and Barney took over for a while, then James Wade, as Taylor's form became much more erratic and inconsistent.

The 2008 World Championship saw Taylor beat MvG, Walsh and Tabern by small margins, struggling hard to win, and then Taylor lost to Mardel. Taylor then changed darts again, the new ones having thicker barrels, and again it didn't work out initially. Taylor lost 3 of his first 4 matches in the 2008 Premier League, and it was night 4 when Manley beat him. Taylor then discovered old John Lowe darts that Phil's then wife Yvonne had, and started practicing with them and he loved them. Taylor got Unicorn to make a similar set of darts, and he was working with some physicist at Unicorn about how missiles fly through the air, aiming at creating a perfect dart. Taylor form exploded in March 2008, went through the roof. He was winning floor events at a canter and his Premier League form also went great. A few more tweaks were made to the darts, including changing the barrel from silver to gold to black. Taylor said black made the treble target seem even bigger.

After this, and Taylor's huge surge in form, and the huge surge in prize money available too, everyone was going crazy for this darts technology stuff that they hadn't previously done. This has played its part, along with the changing from SD to HD boards after the 2014 World Championship, in increasing overall standards in depth and the averages.

Didn't Taylor also have problems with his vision during the 2008 Worlds?

[thegentle]

It's not as simple as board technology changing as with any sport. Dart technology has improved. Players are improving. Diet, preparation, sleep, management, psychology.
All of it adds a point or two. Not one factor but many.
The boards thing has always been an obsession on forums because it was a BDO v PDC thing. Now both WDF and PDC use Winmau it still continues what does that tell you?

Howay. There is a bairn just run through half a world championship field who boasts lovingly of living off kebabs and 'buying loads of vapes' with his winnings.

Diet, preparation and psychology my hole

At 16 the long terms effects won't have had time to kick in.
I'm sure you remember once feeling invincible at that age.

Diet my hole absolutely, most of the top players (including the 16 year old) are still overweight, we've even seen players who have lost weight and seen their form suffer (Hendo and McGeeney in recent years, Barney I seem to recall a while back). 'Darts stamina' (ie, being able to chuck darts at the board for hours on end without your arm falling off or letting the adrenaline get to you) is clearly not the same thing as regular stamina. I'll take your point on the others though

[thegentle]

Prime prowler on these boards is a truly sickening thought, cunt would have loved the added prize money also.

Taylor will be a bit bitter that he caused the surge in prize money yet others, like MvG, are getting more financial rewards from it. At the same time, he'll be proud as well as bitter. Eric didn't teach Phil when to let go, only how to win, ruthlessly. When Eric was no longer the best, he could accept it. Phil had a much tougher time accepting that, and never really did. He hated towards the end of his career that he couldn't just play one tournament and immediately play another tournament as he had done in the past, because he was now too tired. And there was MvG at his best, being utterly ruthless.

Taylor's outburst at the 2017 Matchplay, when he, for a brief time, managed to get back to something like his best and become the best player in the world, was utterly hilarious, slagging off Mardell for 'chatting a load of rubbish' and MvG for 'texting Vince de fan de fought'

[oche balboa]

Luke Humphries is one of the few players who lost weight and has become a better player. Taylor always bragged about weight loss and sometimes it was visible but was never the same player until he put that weight back on.

Great discussion btw. PT13 writes some good stuff, meetthefeebles is always good value on forums too.

[The Thorn]

Luke Humphries is one of the few players who lost weight and has become a better player. Taylor always bragged about weight loss and sometimes it was visible but was never the same player until he put that weight back on.

Great discussion btw. PT13 writes some good stuff, meetthefeebles is always good value on forums too.

S.L.U.R.P.

[Cooking with Sandra]

Silly cunt

[sennafan24]

Prime prowler on these boards is a truly sickening thought, cunt would have loved the added prize money also.

Taylor will be a bit bitter that he caused the surge in prize money yet others, like MvG, are getting more financial rewards from it. At the same time, he'll be proud as well as bitter. Eric didn't teach Phil when to let go, only how to win, ruthlessly. When Eric was no longer the best, he could accept it. Phil had a much tougher time accepting that, and never really did. He hated towards the end of his career that he couldn't just play one tournament and immediately play another tournament as he had done in the past, because he was now too tired. And there was MvG at his best, being utterly ruthless.

Taylor's outburst at the 2017 Matchplay, when he, for a brief time, managed to get back to something like his best and become the best player in the world, was utterly hilarious, slagging off Mardell for 'chatting a load of rubbish' and MvG for 'texting Vince de fan de fought'

[PT13]

Also, in addition to the boards, there's the fact that starting with Phil Taylor and the "Uniboffin" in 2008, when Taylor's form went through the roof, there has also been an increasing focus scientifically on the darts missiles themselves.

Could you elaborate on this please?

Phil Taylor lost the 2007 World Championship final to Raymond van Barneveld in a sudden death leg. Despite the very high standard, Phil knew that something had to change. He tried changing his darts in early 2007, but it didn't work out, so he switched back. That seemed to return his old form for a while, but a few months later all the old problems came back, and Barney took over for a while, then James Wade, as Taylor's form became much more erratic and inconsistent.

The 2008 World Championship saw Taylor beat MvG, Walsh and Tabern by small margins, struggling hard to win, and then Taylor lost to Mardel. Taylor then changed darts again, the new ones having thicker barrels, and again it didn't work out initially. Taylor lost 3 of his first 4 matches in the 2008 Premier League, and it was night 4 when Manley beat him. Taylor then discovered old John Lowe darts that Phil's then wife Yvonne had, and started practicing with them and he loved them. Taylor got Unicorn to make a similar set of darts, and he was working with some physicist at Unicorn about how missiles fly through the air, aiming at creating a perfect dart. Taylor form exploded in March 2008, went through the roof. He was winning floor events at a canter and his Premier League form also went great. A few more tweaks were made to the darts, including changing the barrel from silver to gold to black. Taylor said black made the treble target seem even bigger.

After this, and Taylor's huge surge in form, and the huge surge in prize money available too, everyone was going crazy for this darts technology stuff that they hadn't previously done. This has played its part, along with the changing from SD to HD boards after the 2014 World Championship, in increasing overall standards in depth and the averages.

Didn't Taylor also have problems with his vision during the 2008 Worlds?

His eyesight has declined over time, certainly.

[shenmue]

The prowler is a cunt

[Cooking with Sandra]

The prowler is a cunt

+1

[ChrisW]

Luke Humphries is one of the few players who lost weight and has become a better player. Taylor always bragged about weight loss and sometimes it was visible but was never the same player until he put that weight back on.

Great discussion btw. PT13 writes some good stuff, meetthefeebles is always good value on forums too.

Pointed out by God today in his interview.

[paolo2144]

I hate Taylor, always have and will, but I can say with as much confidence as I can for a man with no scientific basis for saying so that the prime version of him would be smashing in 110+ averages in for fun on these boards. And then some.

His averages back when boards had fucking staples in them were regularly higher than a bloke who today played (and lost) a WC semi-final. The numbers he posted when he went berserk circa 2009 were ridiculous.

Taylor's talent is almost as difficult to deny as his personality is to like.

I agree 2008-2010 Taylor had the highest peak of any darts player.

To be honest i used to think that 2008-10 Taylor was clearly better than say the 98-02 version, however, on looking back at things i am not so sure,

If you look at Taylor's performance in 98 PDC world final against Dennis Priestly, he averaged almost 104 on a board whose doubles/trebles appeared tiny in comparison to those he would be playing on 1 decade or so later. I honestly think if he had replicated his form from that match in say 2009 final he may have got close or even surpassed the record he set that day for PDC final.

Even if you look at his performances against Part in 2001 final and then against Burgess in 2002 S/F i honestly think on the current boards they would be potentially 115 plus averages, especially his one against Burgess.

So it may be that Taylor in 08-13 mode was better than say 99-02 but i don't think it is by as much as some think, has to me one of the main reasons for big noticeable increase in his match averages were the change in dart boards.

I think players like Bristow, peak Priestly and prime Taylor would be hammering the 105 plus and in Taylor's case the 110 plus averages with ease on current boards.