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Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:05 pm
by PT13
The Thorn wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:23 pm Good that we can agree on one thing

Barton is a twat
Absolutely.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:26 pm
by Greipel
Video removed by Malt

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:44 pm
by Potter's Lake
Timing.

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Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:32 pm
by Jimmi
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:16 pm
Jimmi wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:12 pm
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:02 pm
Jimmi wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:50 pm
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:11 pm
There wasn't too much of a fuss in tennis in the mid-late 1970s when Richard Raskind transitioned and became Renée Richards. The worst that the bigots did back then was laugh at the notion of a man becoming a woman. Nowadays, they'd be saying "A disgrace! A man playing in a women's event" and start all the dehumanizing, lack of empathy agitation.
Saying Noa isn’t allowed to play in Women’s Events isn’t dehumanising her
Dehumanising Noa would be making transphobic comments towards Noa
It doesn't stop there, and you know it. I mentioned the Renée Richards situation from the 1970s before, and the worst the bigots did then was laugh at the concept of a man becoming a woman, nothing about an outrage of a biological male competing in women's sport. The likes of Joey Barton don't care about women's sports. It's the latest divide and rule "culture war" tactic by the right-wing.
No internet in the 1970’s, so less bigots and social spaces for people to air such horrible views on people who don’t feel comfortable in their own skin

Last thing I’m going to say is that I have no problem with Noa, not in the slightest or any person who is Trans
I simply don't agree that Noa should be allowed to play in the Women’s Events
A perfectly reasonable position
I think this is how most people feel about the whole thing
Not everyone is a massive cunt on the Internet

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:39 pm
by Safc
Cracking read this thread.

It's like GB News vs Owen Jones in text form.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:07 am
by PT13
Potter's Lake wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:44 pm Timing.

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This headline is most certainly NOT out of concern with women's sports (as if the Daily Mail gives a shit), but about sowing division in society, whipping up hate. This is done in an attempt to stop people noticing how the super rich are still ripping us off massively.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:07 am
by Cooking with Sandra
Everyone who reads the Daily Mail is a cunt.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:58 am
by Greipel
Greipel wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:26 pm Video removed by Malt
The fuck?

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:39 am
by Randall
Should be all sport not elite sport
Why should amateur female competitors have to put up with men in their events?
Some ladies will never get to be elite if denied opportunity to compete.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:40 am
by Randall
Jimmi wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:32 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:16 pm
Jimmi wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:12 pm
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:02 pm
Jimmi wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:50 pm

Saying Noa isn’t allowed to play in Women’s Events isn’t dehumanising her
Dehumanising Noa would be making transphobic comments towards Noa
It doesn't stop there, and you know it. I mentioned the Renée Richards situation from the 1970s before, and the worst the bigots did then was laugh at the concept of a man becoming a woman, nothing about an outrage of a biological male competing in women's sport. The likes of Joey Barton don't care about women's sports. It's the latest divide and rule "culture war" tactic by the right-wing.
No internet in the 1970’s, so less bigots and social spaces for people to air such horrible views on people who don’t feel comfortable in their own skin

Last thing I’m going to say is that I have no problem with Noa, not in the slightest or any person who is Trans
I simply don't agree that Noa should be allowed to play in the Women’s Events
A perfectly reasonable position
I think this is how most people feel about the whole thing
Not everyone is a massive cunt on the Internet
Most people who live in the real world, expressing real opinion not pseudo intelligent lefty poppycock.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:43 am
by Captain Hobo
Greipel wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:58 am
Greipel wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:26 pm Video removed by Malt
The fuck?
Excellent modding, there.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:48 am
by Greipel
Captain Hobo wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:43 am
Greipel wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:58 am
Greipel wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:26 pm Video removed by Malt
The fuck?
Excellent modding, there.
Highly arguable.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:51 am
by Captain Hobo
Greipel wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:48 am
Captain Hobo wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:43 am
Greipel wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:58 am
Greipel wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:26 pm Video removed by Malt
The fuck?
Excellent modding, there.
Highly arguable.
I trust Malt.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:07 am
by oche balboa
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:13 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:34 pm Do you have any actual arguments
The argument is never forget empathy with other human beings, while the bigots are busy dehumanizing their targets and seemingly not caring about the hate that their targets receive. When we point this out, they squeal about how unfair the left is, while never focusing their hate on the real targets, i.e. the big business profiteers and the capitalist system.
Of course. But at the same time you can argue Noa isn't doing the same for women who are playing in the events.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:08 am
by oche balboa
PT13 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:07 am
Potter's Lake wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:44 pm Timing.

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This headline is most certainly NOT out of concern with women's sports (as if the Daily Mail gives a shit), but about sowing division in society, whipping up hate. This is done in an attempt to stop people noticing how the super rich are still ripping us off massively.
If they wasn't concerned about it they wouldn't have put this out. If people (on the right) are truly sexist then biological women playing less sport will be more of a benefit for them and their views.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:27 am
by meetthefeebles
Cooking with Sanchez wrote:Everyone who reads the Daily Mail is a cunt.
+1

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:28 am
by sennafan24
meetthefeebles wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:27 am
Cooking with Sanchez wrote:Everyone who reads the Daily Mail is a cunt.
+1
+2

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:30 am
by meetthefeebles
PT13 wrote:
Potter's Lake wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:44 pm Timing.

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This headline is most certainly NOT out of concern with women's sports (as if the Daily Mail gives a shit), but about sowing division in society, whipping up hate. This is done in an attempt to stop people noticing how the super rich are still ripping us off massively.
Yes, it almost certainly is. But that doesn't change the fact that scientific evidence shows that biological men have certain genetic advantages over women in many sports and games, which renders their inclusion in them unfair for biological women.

Both can be, and indeed are, true at the same time.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:32 am
by meetthefeebles

oche balboa wrote:
PT13 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:07 am
Potter's Lake wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:44 pm Timing.

Image
This headline is most certainly NOT out of concern with women's sports (as if the Daily Mail gives a shit), but about sowing division in society, whipping up hate. This is done in an attempt to stop people noticing how the super rich are still ripping us off massively.
If they wasn't concerned about it they wouldn't have put this out.
That's not how this particular publication works.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:36 am
by Safc
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:28 am
meetthefeebles wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:27 am
Cooking with Sanchez wrote:Everyone who reads the Daily Mail is a cunt.
+1
+2
+3