Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

[PT13]

People should be given Noa shit for being Trans
That’s just plain wrong

What is also wrong is people being labelled as “Transphobic” because they have a different opinion that doesn’t suit the narrative of Trans Women playing in female centric sporting events

That is meant to read shouldn’t*

Fucking phone!

There wasn't too much of a fuss in tennis in the mid-late 1970s when Richard Raskind transitioned and became Renée Richards. The worst that the bigots did back then was laugh at the notion of a man becoming a woman. Nowadays, they'd be saying "A disgrace! A man playing in a women's event" and start all the dehumanizing, lack of empathy agitation.

Saying Noa isn’t allowed to play in Women’s Events isn’t dehumanising her
Dehumanising Noa would be making transphobic comments towards Noa

It doesn't stop there, and you know it. I mentioned the Renée Richards situation from the 1970s before, and the worst the bigots did then was laugh at the concept of a man becoming a woman, nothing about an outrage of a biological male competing in women's sport. The likes of Joey Barton don't care about women's sports. It's the latest divide and rule "culture war" tactic by the right-wing.

[Randall]

All you need now is a shoplifting trans to steal from your shop and you will implode!!

As it happens there is a lovely trans lady comes in every day shopping.
Always have a good natter with them and recommend books

Have they stolen anything yet? Or are your attentions drawn elsewhere?

They stand for hours reading books but I've never caught them stealing
Apparently only has 1 outfit and doesn't smell nice but is largely harmless

Poor crossdresser only having one outfit. Please give kindly.

I used to know a guy in the early 90s who cross dressed
He was very similar in his wardrobe and hair choices
Often didn't shave either.

[Jimmi]

People should be given Noa shit for being Trans
That’s just plain wrong

What is also wrong is people being labelled as “Transphobic” because they have a different opinion that doesn’t suit the narrative of Trans Women playing in female centric sporting events

That is meant to read shouldn’t*

Fucking phone!

There wasn't too much of a fuss in tennis in the mid-late 1970s when Richard Raskind transitioned and became Renée Richards. The worst that the bigots did back then was laugh at the notion of a man becoming a woman. Nowadays, they'd be saying "A disgrace! A man playing in a women's event" and start all the dehumanizing, lack of empathy agitation.

Saying Noa isn’t allowed to play in Women’s Events isn’t dehumanising her
Dehumanising Noa would be making transphobic comments towards Noa

It doesn't stop there, and you know it. I mentioned the Renée Richards situation from the 1970s before, and the worst the bigots did then was laugh at the concept of a man becoming a woman, nothing about an outrage of a biological male competing in women's sport. The likes of Joey Barton don't care about women's sports. It's the latest divide and rule "culture war" tactic by the right-wing.

No internet in the 1970’s, so less bigots and social spaces for people to air such horrible views on people who don’t feel comfortable in their own skin

Last thing I’m going to say is that I have no problem with Noa, not in the slightest or any person who is Trans
I simply don't agree that Noa should be allowed to play in the Women’s Events

[tungsten tossers]

As it happens there is a lovely trans lady comes in every day shopping.
Always have a good natter with them and recommend books

Have they stolen anything yet? Or are your attentions drawn elsewhere?

They stand for hours reading books but I've never caught them stealing
Apparently only has 1 outfit and doesn't smell nice but is largely harmless

Poor crossdresser only having one outfit. Please give kindly.

I used to know a guy in the early 90s who cross dressed
He was very similar in his wardrobe and hair choices
Often didn't shave either.

You seem to know a few crossdressers Randy
Is there something that you are not telling us ?

[Randall]

That is meant to read shouldn’t*

Fucking phone!

There wasn't too much of a fuss in tennis in the mid-late 1970s when Richard Raskind transitioned and became Renée Richards. The worst that the bigots did back then was laugh at the notion of a man becoming a woman. Nowadays, they'd be saying "A disgrace! A man playing in a women's event" and start all the dehumanizing, lack of empathy agitation.

Saying Noa isn’t allowed to play in Women’s Events isn’t dehumanising her
Dehumanising Noa would be making transphobic comments towards Noa

It doesn't stop there, and you know it. I mentioned the Renée Richards situation from the 1970s before, and the worst the bigots did then was laugh at the concept of a man becoming a woman, nothing about an outrage of a biological male competing in women's sport. The likes of Joey Barton don't care about women's sports. It's the latest divide and rule "culture war" tactic by the right-wing.

No internet in the 1970’s, so less bigots and social spaces for people to air such horrible views on people who don’t feel comfortable in their own skin

Last thing I’m going to say is that I have no problem with Noa, not in the slightest or any person who is Trans
I simply don't agree that Noa should be allowed to play in the Women’s Events

A perfectly reasonable position

[Randall]

Have they stolen anything yet? Or are your attentions drawn elsewhere?

They stand for hours reading books but I've never caught them stealing
Apparently only has 1 outfit and doesn't smell nice but is largely harmless

Poor crossdresser only having one outfit. Please give kindly.

I used to know a guy in the early 90s who cross dressed
He was very similar in his wardrobe and hair choices
Often didn't shave either.

You seem to know a few crossdressers Randy
Is there something that you are not telling us ?

I do don't I
I've not spoken to my mate lately
I see his son occasionally, he is struggling with it
It can't be easy.

[tungsten tossers]

They stand for hours reading books but I've never caught them stealing
Apparently only has 1 outfit and doesn't smell nice but is largely harmless

Poor crossdresser only having one outfit. Please give kindly.

I used to know a guy in the early 90s who cross dressed
He was very similar in his wardrobe and hair choices
Often didn't shave either.

You seem to know a few crossdressers Randy
Is there something that you are not telling us ?

I do don't I
I've not spoken to my mate lately
I see his son occasionally, he is struggling with it
It can't be easy.

How old is his son ?

[Randall]

Poor crossdresser only having one outfit. Please give kindly.

I used to know a guy in the early 90s who cross dressed
He was very similar in his wardrobe and hair choices
Often didn't shave either.

You seem to know a few crossdressers Randy
Is there something that you are not telling us ?

I do don't I
I've not spoken to my mate lately
I see his son occasionally, he is struggling with it
It can't be easy.

How old is his son ?

His son is late 20s
I think it's as much his young family that is the problem
Its got to be tough when grandad is suddenly presenting as grandma.

[tungsten tossers]

I used to know a guy in the early 90s who cross dressed
He was very similar in his wardrobe and hair choices
Often didn't shave either.

You seem to know a few crossdressers Randy
Is there something that you are not telling us ?

I do don't I
I've not spoken to my mate lately
I see his son occasionally, he is struggling with it
It can't be easy.

How old is his son ?

His son is late 20s
I think it's as much his young family that is the problem
Its got to be tough when grandad is suddenly presenting as grandma.

Indeed

" Grandma, can you bake us some cakes? "

" Sod that, get me a beer from the fridge "

[Randall]

You seem to know a few crossdressers Randy
Is there something that you are not telling us ?

I do don't I
I've not spoken to my mate lately
I see his son occasionally, he is struggling with it
It can't be easy.

How old is his son ?

His son is late 20s
I think it's as much his young family that is the problem
Its got to be tough when grandad is suddenly presenting as grandma.

Indeed

" Grandma, can you bake us some cakes? "

" Sod that, get me a beer from the fridge "

How you even approach such a situation i don't know
His kids aren't of an age to understand it

[Cooking with Sandra]

People should be given Noa shit for being Trans
That’s just plain wrong

What is also wrong is people being labelled as “Transphobic” because they have a different opinion that doesn’t suit the narrative of Trans Women playing in female centric sporting events

The "progressive left" isn't interested in any hearing any other opinion but demand you accept theirs.

Because they are sick of bigots. Go back to the days of Mrs. Doubtfire, and it was gays and bisexuals that were being attacked by the bigots, with far less hostility to trans people. The targets of the bigots depend on which group the media focus on to attack in order to divide people. United we stand, divided we fall.

Grow up

Weird. Bigots are like bullies at school who never grow up.

Exactly this. Then they just become more and more extreme until they’re in an echo chamber in the dregs of twitter. Sad.

[Ross, Bob]

They stand for hours reading books but I've never caught them stealing
Apparently only has 1 outfit and doesn't smell nice but is largely harmless

Poor crossdresser only having one outfit. Please give kindly.

I used to know a guy in the early 90s who cross dressed
He was very similar in his wardrobe and hair choices
Often didn't shave either.

You seem to know a few crossdressers Randy
Is there something that you are not telling us ?

I do don't I
I've not spoken to my mate lately
I see his / her son occasionally, he is struggling with it
It can't be easy.

Fixed.

[Randall]

Poor crossdresser only having one outfit. Please give kindly.

I used to know a guy in the early 90s who cross dressed
He was very similar in his wardrobe and hair choices
Often didn't shave either.

You seem to know a few crossdressers Randy
Is there something that you are not telling us ?

I do don't I
I've not spoken to my mate lately
I see his / her son occasionally, he is struggling with it
It can't be easy.

Fixed.

It's a minefield

[Ross, Bob]

I used to know a guy in the early 90s who cross dressed
He was very similar in his wardrobe and hair choices
Often didn't shave either.

You seem to know a few crossdressers Randy
Is there something that you are not telling us ?

I do don't I
I've not spoken to my mate lately
I see his / her son occasionally, he is struggling with it
It can't be easy.

Fixed.

It's a minefield

Don't worry, we are there to help.

[Randall]

You seem to know a few crossdressers Randy
Is there something that you are not telling us ?

I do don't I
I've not spoken to my mate lately
I see his / her son occasionally, he is struggling with it
It can't be easy.

Fixed.

It's a minefield

Don't worry, we are there to help.

His son still calls him dad, I mean he has a mother
I can't even begin to fathom this

[meetthefeebles]

People should be given Noa shit for being Trans
That’s just plain wrong

What is also wrong is people being labelled as “Transphobic” because they have a different opinion that doesn’t suit the narrative of Trans Women playing in female centric sporting events

That is meant to read shouldn’t*

Fucking phone!

There wasn't too much of a fuss in tennis in the mid-late 1970s when Richard Raskind transitioned and became Renée Richards. The worst that the bigots did back then was laugh at the notion of a man becoming a woman. Nowadays, they'd be saying "A disgrace! A man playing in a women's event" and start all the dehumanizing, lack of empathy agitation.

Saying Noa isn’t allowed to play in Women’s Events isn’t dehumanising her
Dehumanising Noa would be making transphobic comments towards Noa

It doesn't stop there, and you know it. I mentioned the Renée Richards situation from the 1970s before, and the worst the bigots did then was laugh at the concept of a man becoming a woman, nothing about an outrage of a biological male competing in women's sport. The likes of Joey Barton don't care about women's sports. It's the latest divide and rule "culture war" tactic by the right-wing.

What does Joey Barton's latest grift have to do with any of the posts or posters in this thread?

Has it occurred to you that some people might both disagree with Noa being able to play in women's events whilst also thinking that Barton is a gormless, self-absorbed, grifting tit?

[Randall]

That is meant to read shouldn’t*

Fucking phone!

There wasn't too much of a fuss in tennis in the mid-late 1970s when Richard Raskind transitioned and became Renée Richards. The worst that the bigots did back then was laugh at the notion of a man becoming a woman. Nowadays, they'd be saying "A disgrace! A man playing in a women's event" and start all the dehumanizing, lack of empathy agitation.

Saying Noa isn’t allowed to play in Women’s Events isn’t dehumanising her
Dehumanising Noa would be making transphobic comments towards Noa

It doesn't stop there, and you know it. I mentioned the Renée Richards situation from the 1970s before, and the worst the bigots did then was laugh at the concept of a man becoming a woman, nothing about an outrage of a biological male competing in women's sport. The likes of Joey Barton don't care about women's sports. It's the latest divide and rule "culture war" tactic by the right-wing.

What does Joey Barton's latest grift have to do with any of the posts or posters in this thread?

Has it occurred to you that some people might both disagree with Noa being able to play in women's events whilst also thinking that Barton is a gormless, self-absorbed, grifting tit?

Only if Rupert murdoch told them to

[Ross, Bob]

I do don't I
I've not spoken to my mate lately
I see his / her son occasionally, he is struggling with it
It can't be easy.

Fixed.

It's a minefield

Don't worry, we are there to help.

His son still calls him dad, I mean he has a mother
I can't even begin to fathom this

Me neither. I'm done helping.

[The Thorn]

Good that we can agree on one thing

Barton is a twat

[Ross, Bob]

Good that we can agree on one thing

Barton is a twat

Who?