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This year he's been shit though. The past few years he's been one of the best players if we look at strictly Pro Tour results. Most rational people, including myself would say you need to perform to a certain level on TV to be in that discussion though.
ah so that was that one. MVG lost to JdZ in his opening game.
I don’t agree with you, certainly regarding Duzza. He actually did better when there were crowds. One of his big strengths is the mental side of his game. I could argue he may have scored more points in the league phase with crowds. DVDB is someone who seems to thrive off a crowd also.Randall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:07 amI suspect in the future the issues surrounding the events are certain to be involved in the discussion of the outcome.The Thorn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:04 amNot in my opinion. Certainly can't judge based on who wins. So if it's one of the favourites then it's a regular event, but if not then it's suddenly less valid? That would be very unfair.
Exceptional circumstances happen all the time. This might be the first time for a darts WC but hardly the first in the history of sports. The players have to adapt and if Hendo does that the best then he will be world champ. Just as much of a world champ as Wright or Cross.
Honestly I dont think dimi would have won in blackpool nor durrant the pl
But we will never know.
I didn't expect you tooHalloweenJack wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:52 pmI don’t agree with you, certainly regarding Duzza. He actually did better when there were crowds. One of his big strengths is the mental side of his game. I could argue he may have scored more points in the league phase with crowds. DVDB is someone who seems to thrive off a crowd also.Randall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:07 amI suspect in the future the issues surrounding the events are certain to be involved in the discussion of the outcome.The Thorn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:04 amNot in my opinion. Certainly can't judge based on who wins. So if it's one of the favourites then it's a regular event, but if not then it's suddenly less valid? That would be very unfair.
Exceptional circumstances happen all the time. This might be the first time for a darts WC but hardly the first in the history of sports. The players have to adapt and if Hendo does that the best then he will be world champ. Just as much of a world champ as Wright or Cross.
Honestly I dont think dimi would have won in blackpool nor durrant the pl
But we will never know.
Very well putSuperSwede wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:45 pm Much bigger than most think I suspect and the body of evidence keeps growing. It would be a strange coincidence for all of Dimitri winning the Matchplay, Durrant winning the PL and the two of the best players in the world not even making the PL playoffs to happen this year and those occurances be independant of the freak circumstances.
Exactly, weird results happen, Aspinall won the UK Open last year averaging under 90 in the final, he'd have been a dark horse for sure, but no more. Dimi played well in his Matchplay run, you wouldn't say there were any massively strange results there (apart from possibly the final, but, you know, Gando is prone to the odd stinker these days). MvG hasn't been on form, but in truth he wasn't really on top form before lockdown (UK Open aside), had a shocker at MK, but fair fucks to Whitlock who went toe to toe with him the other day and came out betterThe Thorn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:04 amNot in my opinion. Certainly can't judge based on who wins. So if it's one of the favourites then it's a regular event, but if not then it's suddenly less valid? That would be very unfair.
Exceptional circumstances happen all the time. This might be the first time for a darts WC but hardly the first in the history of sports. The players have to adapt and if Hendo does that the best then he will be world champ. Just as much of a world champ as Wright or Cross.
OK, it was a huge shock that MvG was eliminated, but it wasn't a shock that Price didn't qualify for the finals. He wasn't exactly in pole position to qualify before the pause, and while he's been one of the best players in the world for a while now, that was before his recent purple patch. Let it not be forgotten that he's yet to qualify for a finals night!SuperSwede wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:45 pm Much bigger than most think I suspect and the body of evidence keeps growing. It would be a strange coincidence for all of Dimitri winning the Matchplay, Durrant winning the PL and the two of the best players in the world not even making the PL playoffs to happen this year and those occurances be independant of the freak circumstances.
Duzza was fortunate. The rest.. maybe.sennafan24 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:01 pm The biggest change this year has been the decline of the PDC's top players. If MVG was still firing on all-cylinders, he'd have won the PL with ease and perhaps the Matchplay as well, but he's not been close to his best since he changed his darts earlier in the year. Gando is too inconsistent at this stage of his career, and this was an issue for him before Covid. Cross has been struggling since he won the European Championship last year, again before Covid became a thing.
Price had a bit of a blip over the summer, but has now thankfully regained form and is clearly the best in the world. Yet, the average he won the Grand Prix final with was the lowest of any winner since MVG in 2012.
The likes of Dimi, Duzza, Dirk, etc, have all been very fortunate, and would not have been as successful in any other period. The fields are more open than ever.
