The more time that passes and the more you think about, the freakier the actual outcome becomes. Still happened though.
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Of all the top end players
Gando is not one you would expect to put in a shift like that
Too much natural talent to be that bad for 19 legs
Hard to fathom

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I wonder what odds he got?Randall wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:58 pmOf all the top end players
Gando is not one you would expect to put in a shift like that
Too much natural talent to be that bad for 19 legs
Hard to fathom
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Durrant averaged 86.1 in that game. In Ando's last 100 recorded games (based on database) he averaged lower than that 3/100 times. Durrant had a 53% checkout rate though so you might be more generous and count every Ando game under a 90 average. That's 7/100.
Durrant averaged 91.8 in the final. but with a measly 35% checkout rate. So I'll adjust to that and say Asp would have beaten him with an average of at least 91. (Well he actually didn't but that's a different thing.) Durrant theoretically wins that game 10/100.
So to answer your question Durrant would have win the PL playing to the same standard 0.7/100 times. Might as well round that up to 1/100, well there's the one that actually happened

Of course this is just a botched calculation and I've no idea why I did this. It doesn't take into any outside factors whatsoever. If you assume the circumstances played a part, you would give Durrant more leeway because in different circumstances his performances would have likely been better too.
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Looool, Gando has always had bad games in him, he's lost games to worse players than Duzza on TV while putting some absolutely horrendous performances, if anything, he's the one 'top' player I would expect a performance like that fromRandall wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:58 pmOf all the top end players
Gando is not one you would expect to put in a shift like that
Too much natural talent to be that bad for 19 legs
Hard to fathom

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Agree with this.thegentle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:39 amLooool, Gando has always had bad games in him, he's lost games to worse players than Duzza on TV while putting some absolutely horrendous performances, if anything, he's the one 'top' player I would expect a performance like that fromRandall wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:58 pmOf all the top end players
Gando is not one you would expect to put in a shift like that
Too much natural talent to be that bad for 19 legs
Hard to fathom
I'm not sure why everyone is assuming that if they play those Finals again, Duzza will play just as shit as he did on Thursday, but the others will play closer to their normal level.
It was a weird night of darts, they all seemed to drag each other down. Why everyone is assuming that Duzza is no longer capable of averaging over 90 is beyond me.
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Granted he has, everyone hasthegentle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:39 amLooool, Gando has always had bad games in him, he's lost games to worse players than Duzza on TV while putting some absolutely horrendous performances, if anything, he's the one 'top' player I would expect a performance like that fromRandall wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:58 pmOf all the top end players
Gando is not one you would expect to put in a shift like that
Too much natural talent to be that bad for 19 legs
Hard to fathom
But 84 across 19 legs is alarming

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To offset the 250k very good onesTommo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:07 pmI wonder what odds he got?Randall wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:58 pmOf all the top end players
Gando is not one you would expect to put in a shift like that
Too much natural talent to be that bad for 19 legs
Hard to fathom

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Impressive stuff. 1 in 100 you have decided. I was going to be a bit more generous than that but I don't want to now.The Thorn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:01 pmDurrant averaged 86.1 in that game. In Ando's last 100 recorded games (based on database) he averaged lower than that 3/100 times. Durrant had a 53% checkout rate though so you might be more generous and count every Ando game under a 90 average. That's 7/100.
Durrant averaged 91.8 in the final. but with a measly 35% checkout rate. So I'll adjust to that and say Asp would have beaten him with an average of at least 91. (Well he actually didn't but that's a different thing.) Durrant theoretically wins that game 10/100.
So to answer your question Durrant would have win the PL playing to the same standard 0.7/100 times. Might as well round that up to 1/100, well there's the one that actually happened![]()
Of course this is just a botched calculation and I've no idea why I did this. It doesn't take into any outside factors whatsoever. If you assume the circumstances played a part, you would give Durrant more leeway because in different circumstances his performances would have likely been better too.
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I don't know where you read that. The scenario presented was obviously pure fantasy.Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:58 am I'm not sure why everyone is assuming that if they play those Finals again, Duzza will play just as shit as he did on Thursday, but the others will play closer to their normal level.
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Well in that case, I say Duzza wins 50 times, 2001 John Walton wins 49 and Denis Ovens wins the other 1.Rogg wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:57 pmI don't know where you read that. The scenario presented was obviously pure fantasy.Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:58 am I'm not sure why everyone is assuming that if they play those Finals again, Duzza will play just as shit as he did on Thursday, but the others will play closer to their normal level.
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At least you admit Durrant was shit that night. Next up is admitting he's shit in general.The Thorn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:01 pmDurrant averaged 86.1 in that game. In Ando's last 100 recorded games (based on database) he averaged lower than that 3/100 times. Durrant had a 53% checkout rate though so you might be more generous and count every Ando game under a 90 average. That's 7/100.
Durrant averaged 91.8 in the final. but with a measly 35% checkout rate. So I'll adjust to that and say Asp would have beaten him with an average of at least 91. (Well he actually didn't but that's a different thing.) Durrant theoretically wins that game 10/100.
So to answer your question Durrant would have win the PL playing to the same standard 0.7/100 times. Might as well round that up to 1/100, well there's the one that actually happened![]()
Of course this is just a botched calculation and I've no idea why I did this. It doesn't take into any outside factors whatsoever. If you assume the circumstances played a part, you would give Durrant more leeway because in different circumstances his performances would have likely been better too.
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My instinct says between 2-3% of the time. Nearer 2.The Thorn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:01 pmDurrant averaged 86.1 in that game. In Ando's last 100 recorded games (based on database) he averaged lower than that 3/100 times. Durrant had a 53% checkout rate though so you might be more generous and count every Ando game under a 90 average. That's 7/100.
Durrant averaged 91.8 in the final. but with a measly 35% checkout rate. So I'll adjust to that and say Asp would have beaten him with an average of at least 91. (Well he actually didn't but that's a different thing.) Durrant theoretically wins that game 10/100.
So to answer your question Durrant would have win the PL playing to the same standard 0.7/100 times. Might as well round that up to 1/100, well there's the one that actually happened![]()
Of course this is just a botched calculation and I've no idea why I did this. It doesn't take into any outside factors whatsoever. If you assume the circumstances played a part, you would give Durrant more leeway because in different circumstances his performances would have likely been better too.
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The only recent PDC TV tournament I can find where the winner posted mediocre averages in both the semi finals and the final was the 2018 European Championship.
Wade averaged a shade under 94 in the semi final, and then 91 in the final. Very unimpressive averages for the business end of a tournament, but still better overall than what Dulla averaged in the PL playoffs last week.
Wade averaged a shade under 94 in the semi final, and then 91 in the final. Very unimpressive averages for the business end of a tournament, but still better overall than what Dulla averaged in the PL playoffs last week.
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Interesting. You're fractionally more optimistic than Thorn then =DSuperSwede wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:02 amMy instinct says between 2-3% of the time. Nearer 2.The Thorn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:01 pmDurrant averaged 86.1 in that game. In Ando's last 100 recorded games (based on database) he averaged lower than that 3/100 times. Durrant had a 53% checkout rate though so you might be more generous and count every Ando game under a 90 average. That's 7/100.
Durrant averaged 91.8 in the final. but with a measly 35% checkout rate. So I'll adjust to that and say Asp would have beaten him with an average of at least 91. (Well he actually didn't but that's a different thing.) Durrant theoretically wins that game 10/100.
So to answer your question Durrant would have win the PL playing to the same standard 0.7/100 times. Might as well round that up to 1/100, well there's the one that actually happened![]()
Of course this is just a botched calculation and I've no idea why I did this. It doesn't take into any outside factors whatsoever. If you assume the circumstances played a part, you would give Durrant more leeway because in different circumstances his performances would have likely been better too.
This could be applied to anybody of course. 'Player X' who played at his level in that schedule on Thursday.
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Hmm, that's a good likening. My beloved Hopp-Cullen final that never was.sennafan24 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:30 am The only recent PDC TV tournament I can find where the winner posted mediocre averages in both the semi finals and the final was the 2018 European Championship.
Wade averaged a shade under 94 in the semi final, and then 91 in the final. Very unimpressive averages for the business end of a tournament, but still better overall than what Dulla averaged in the PL playoffs last week.
We even (my memory) had Hoppo binning three match darts v Wade in that semi-final.

It just had to be Wade and Duzza who walked off with these cups, didn't it?
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Cross and Smith will never win the world cup together and they are both heavily overatted
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Ryan Searle, Robert Thornton and danny noppert will all get into the world quarters in december
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