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by HalloweenJack » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:23 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:14 pm
Lewis has underachievied.
Wade has probably over achieved.
Lewis in essence, at his best, was better than wade.
Maybe if wade had beaten Taylor in one of his titles? That's another stick used to beat him.
Not really fair though, you can only beat what’s in front of you. He did actually beat Taylor in the championship event ( strangely this is considered a PDC premier event)
I think it’s unfair to say Wade has overachieved though 10 premier wins suggests he is no flash in the plan. How has he over achieved exactly, his time spent at the top end of the rankings would suggest he hasn’t. I think it’s surprising Wade hasn’t won a world title, or at least got a final, especially when you think of some of the players who have got to the final.
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by Randall » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:26 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:23 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:14 pm
Lewis has underachievied.
Wade has probably over achieved.
Lewis in essence, at his best, was better than wade.
Maybe if wade had beaten Taylor in one of his titles? That's another stick used to beat him.
Not really fair though, you can only beat what’s in front of you. He did actually beat Taylor in the championship event ( strangely this is considered a PDC premier event)
I think it’s unfair to say Wade has overachieved though 10 premier wins suggests he is no flash in the plan. How has he over achieved exactly, his time spent at the top end of the rankings would suggest he hasn’t. I think it’s surprising Wade hasn’t won a world title, or at least got a final, especially when you think of some of the players who have got to the final.
He beat taylor in blackpool but lost the final
In terms of ability I think he probably has over achieved
He isnt as talented as that big sack of shit barney yet won more.

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by HalloweenJack » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:30 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:26 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:23 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:14 pm
Lewis has underachievied.
Wade has probably over achieved.
Lewis in essence, at his best, was better than wade.
Maybe if wade had beaten Taylor in one of his titles? That's another stick used to beat him.
Not really fair though, you can only beat what’s in front of you. He did actually beat Taylor in the championship event ( strangely this is considered a PDC premier event)
I think it’s unfair to say Wade has overachieved though 10 premier wins suggests he is no flash in the plan. How has he over achieved exactly, his time spent at the top end of the rankings would suggest he hasn’t. I think it’s surprising Wade hasn’t won a world title, or at least got a final, especially when you think of some of the players who have got to the final.
He beat taylor in blackpool but lost the final
In terms of ability I think he probably has over achieved
He isnt as talented as that big sack of shit barney yet won more.
Wade isn’t a huge scorer, his finishing and bottle are his strengths. If you are talking top 5 of all time for ton plus finishes particularly around the 100-120 area Wade is up there and you couldn’t name many better players better than him in that department.
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by The Thorn » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:31 pm
Lewis' peak was higher than Wade's, but over a long time consistently Wade was the slightly better player. That's why one has more majors but the other more worlds. I think that's clear. Who was overall the better player is down to preference I think. People usually make their all time lists based on achievement, not on pure ability, and thus Lewis has to rank higher, 2 world titles to zero, simple.
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by Safc » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:33 pm
Its Blue lads
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by Randall » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:33 pm
Anyone have a working stream?
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by HalloweenJack » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:38 pm
The Thorn wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:31 pm
Lewis' peak was higher than Wade's, but over a long time consistently Wade was the slightly better player. That's why one has more majors but the other more worlds. I think that's clear. Who was overall the better player is down to preference I think. People usually make their all time lists based on achievement, not on pure ability, and thus Lewis has to rank higher, 2 world titles to zero, simple.
It shouldn’t just be about that though, consistency, more time at the top and even head to head ( especially as they are comparable players, it’s not like one was on a decline)If Wade had of won windgate it’s 1-1 for world titles. I’m assuming Wade beats Hamilton in the final. There wouldn’t even be a debate and Wade would by everybody be ranked higher. So for some people, one match has decided who is higher between 2 players.
I still think it’s a good debate and not as clear cut as you make out. As it stands now, I would think it mor likely Wade will win another major before Lewis.
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by Randall » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:39 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:30 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:26 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:23 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:14 pm
Lewis has underachievied.
Wade has probably over achieved.
Lewis in essence, at his best, was better than wade.
Maybe if wade had beaten Taylor in one of his titles? That's another stick used to beat him.
Not really fair though, you can only beat what’s in front of you. He did actually beat Taylor in the championship event ( strangely this is considered a PDC premier event)
I think it’s unfair to say Wade has overachieved though 10 premier wins suggests he is no flash in the plan. How has he over achieved exactly, his time spent at the top end of the rankings would suggest he hasn’t. I think it’s surprising Wade hasn’t won a world title, or at least got a final, especially when you think of some of the players who have got to the final.
He beat taylor in blackpool but lost the final
In terms of ability I think he probably has over achieved
He isnt as talented as that big sack of shit barney yet won more.
Wade isn’t a huge scorer, his finishing and bottle are his strengths. If you are talking top 5 of all time for ton plus finishes particularly around the 100-120 area Wade is up there and you couldn’t name many better players better than him in that department.
This all is true but without the world trophy I can't see a case for top ten.

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by Greipel » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:41 pm
Come on Gary! I don't like the other cunt.
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by Randall » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:41 pm
Go on lad
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by Potter's Lake » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:41 pm
I am not ready for this, but here it is.
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by Randall » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:42 pm
Potter's Lake wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:41 pm
I am not ready for this, but here it is.
I'm about ready for bed
Daft time to start a game
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by skweezit » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:42 pm
here we go.
the "excuses" window is closed.
game on.
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by sennafan24 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:43 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:42 pm
I'm about ready for bed
FFS
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HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Fri Apr 04, 2025 6:35 am
Okay, I stand corrected.
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by shenmue » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:43 pm
Dimi will win by at least 6 legs.
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by skweezit » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:44 pm
45, 40 dimi's blown it!
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by The Thorn » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:44 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:38 pm
The Thorn wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:31 pm
Lewis' peak was higher than Wade's, but over a long time consistently Wade was the slightly better player. That's why one has more majors but the other more worlds. I think that's clear. Who was overall the better player is down to preference I think. People usually make their all time lists based on achievement, not on pure ability, and thus Lewis has to rank higher, 2 world titles to zero, simple.
It shouldn’t just be about that though, consistency, more time at the top and even head to head ( especially as they are comparable players, it’s not like one was on a decline)If Wade had of won windgate it’s 1-1 for world titles. I’m assuming Wade beats Hamilton in the final. There wouldn’t even be a debate and Wade would by everybody be ranked higher. So for some people, one match has decided who is higher between 2 players.
I still think it’s a good debate and not as clear cut as you make out. As it stands now, I would think it mor likely Wade will win another major before Lewis.
"What if" isn't an argument either. One has two world titles, the other has none. Yeah, in that case that one game gets to decide it, tough luck. If Barney doesn't beat Taylor in 07 in a deciding leg, he'd be a few places down on everyone's list. I can keep making up imaginary situations but let's stick with the facts. I wouldn't rank Cross for example above Wade obviously (even if he could well end up with more majors than Lewis) but 2 world titles to 0 is just too much of a gap.
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by sennafan24 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:46 pm
The Thorn wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:44 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:38 pm
The Thorn wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:31 pm
Lewis' peak was higher than Wade's, but over a long time consistently Wade was the slightly better player. That's why one has more majors but the other more worlds. I think that's clear. Who was overall the better player is down to preference I think. People usually make their all time lists based on achievement, not on pure ability, and thus Lewis has to rank higher, 2 world titles to zero, simple.
It shouldn’t just be about that though, consistency, more time at the top and even head to head ( especially as they are comparable players, it’s not like one was on a decline)If Wade had of won windgate it’s 1-1 for world titles. I’m assuming Wade beats Hamilton in the final. There wouldn’t even be a debate and Wade would by everybody be ranked higher. So for some people, one match has decided who is higher between 2 players.
I still think it’s a good debate and not as clear cut as you make out. As it stands now, I would think it mor likely Wade will win another major before Lewis.
"What if" isn't an argument either. One has two world titles, the other has none. Yeah, in that case that one game gets to decide it, tough luck. If Barney doesn't beat Taylor in 07 in a deciding leg, he'd be a few places down on everyone's list. I can keep making up imaginary situations but let's stick with the facts. I wouldn't rank Cross for example above Wade obviously (even if he could well end up with more majors than Lewis) but 2 world titles to 0 is just too much of a gap.

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HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Fri Apr 04, 2025 6:35 am
Okay, I stand corrected.
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by Randall » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:46 pm
Not the best of starts
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by The Thorn » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:46 pm
sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:46 pm
The Thorn wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:44 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:38 pm
The Thorn wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:31 pm
Lewis' peak was higher than Wade's, but over a long time consistently Wade was the slightly better player. That's why one has more majors but the other more worlds. I think that's clear. Who was overall the better player is down to preference I think. People usually make their all time lists based on achievement, not on pure ability, and thus Lewis has to rank higher, 2 world titles to zero, simple.
It shouldn’t just be about that though, consistency, more time at the top and even head to head ( especially as they are comparable players, it’s not like one was on a decline)If Wade had of won windgate it’s 1-1 for world titles. I’m assuming Wade beats Hamilton in the final. There wouldn’t even be a debate and Wade would by everybody be ranked higher. So for some people, one match has decided who is higher between 2 players.
I still think it’s a good debate and not as clear cut as you make out. As it stands now, I would think it mor likely Wade will win another major before Lewis.
"What if" isn't an argument either. One has two world titles, the other has none. Yeah, in that case that one game gets to decide it, tough luck. If Barney doesn't beat Taylor in 07 in a deciding leg, he'd be a few places down on everyone's list. I can keep making up imaginary situations but let's stick with the facts. I wouldn't rank Cross for example above Wade obviously (even if he could well end up with more majors than Lewis) but 2 world titles to 0 is just too much of a gap.

The truth, however ugly in itself, is always curious and beautiful to seekers after it.
