GSoD Averages so far

[Justin Credible]

Average of averages/ finishing % /player / individual averages

98.68 (43%) Phil Taylor (94.67 99.72 100.93)
97.40 (38%) Mark Webster (95.42 95.30 101.43)
96.14 (36%) Paul Nicholson (92.78 96.50 97.85)
95.29 (38%) Adrian Lewis (89.75 109.39 91.57)
95.03 (26%) Magnus Caris (87.86 94.86 101.52)
94.26 (65%) Michael van Gerwen (101.84 85.98 96.06)
94.12 (39%) James Wade (100.63 88.68 93.80)
93.54 (36%) Gary Anderson (88.55 104.60 90.61)
93.21 (32%) Dave Chisnall (96.43 95.17 88.66)
92.77 (46%) Terry Jenkins (85.32 96.74 94.77)
92.56 (42%) Co Stompe (91.63 98.96 89.07)
92.55 (41%) Martin Phillips (97.11 88.38 91.47)
92.15 (36%) Scott Waites (94.06 84.65 100.73)
91.00 (41%) Wayne Jones (96.51 98.03 76.34)
90.82 (31%) Mervyn King (85.88 90.09 97.24)
90.80 (38%) Justin Pipe (85.79 93.34 92.18)
90.37 (44%) Brendan Dolan (86.39 90.49 93.91)
90.24 (26%) Ted Hankey (79.96 88.94 100.05)
90.09 (34%) Mark Walsh (85.24 90.86 94.99)
90.00 (34%) Steve Beaton (86.65 92.22 91.55)
89.97 (34%) Dean Winstanley (85.40 90.74 92.68)
89.33 (52%) Nigel Heydon (84.67 93.51 90.25)
89.25 (30%) Tony O'Shea (85.11 92.09 90.06)
88.70 (44%) Ian White (86.11 91.52 88.92)
88.47 (41%) Wes Newton (85.07 87.20 94.31)
87.33 (26%) Vincent van der Voort (98.00 74.86 88.73)
86.74 (28%) Raymond van Barneveld (86.16 89.19 85.12)
85.87 (31%) Arron Monk (84.40 87.93 86.01)
85.20 (39%) John Part (80.90 83.52 90.79)
84.69 (53%) Jan Dekker (73.23 92.00 91.21)
81.59 (23%) James Hubbard (83.13 76.59 85.98)
78.59 (40%) Barrie Bates (71.30 83.29 80.21)

Tournament Average: 90.58

[Justin Credible]

who would have thought Caris would be in the top 5 after 3 matches.
Bates was dismal,

[DrZoidberg]

webby has been consistantly good.

due to meet the fat fuck in the semis i think.

[Justin Credible]

the finishing % of MVG is awesome for that off a combined 3 matches

[hang the dj]

No surprise to see Bates at the bottom, he was painful to watch

[Joe]

Very interesting stats their Justin, it shows that Wade and Chisnall's form dipped when they played Pipe, which for my money is very understandable, the pace (or lack of it) he plays at cause seriously interfere with other players throw. I shall be perfectly honest here and class his slow play as a slight advantage, which he uses to his benifit even more so now he knows it effects others.
Magnis still a great player, always was, shame he hasnt got an ounce of bottle for these games. If he had 1/10th of Nicholsons bottle he wouldnt have crapped his pants last night.
Mr Dekker must have went looking for the coke machine after his first round performance Vs part. As for Barney, long may this dip in form continue.

[The Ginge Reaper]

The first figures isnt the average of averages, just added up Bates three scores and divided by 3 and it didnt come out at the figure on the left. So it must be the true average.

[Joe]

I was thinking, surely barry bates would be classed as "Unfit for work" How can the Pdc, who have been involved with the betting industry let him play in this event knowing full well that he was a whipping boy for the other 3 players in the group, from what i hear from a betting point of view, Mr bates cost some high street bookies alot of money over the course of his 3 days.

[Terry Kenny]

I was thinking, surely barry bates would be classed as "Unfit for work" How can the Pdc, who have been involved with the betting industry let him play in this event knowing full well that he was a whipping boy for the other 3 players in the group, from what i hear from a betting point of view, Mr bates cost some high street bookies alot of money over the course of his 3 days.

that's a dangerous road to go down though. if they started introducing a minimum standard half the tour school entrants would be told to fuck off

[The Ginge Reaper]

I was thinking, surely barry bates would be classed as "Unfit for work" How can the Pdc, who have been involved with the betting industry let him play in this event knowing full well that he was a whipping boy for the other 3 players in the group, from what i hear from a betting point of view, Mr bates cost some high street bookies alot of money over the course of his 3 days.

The bookies should have priced his games up a bit better. Dont have much sympathy for them

But I agree in principle, he perhaps should have been nowhere near the event.

[Joe]

I was thinking, surely barry bates would be classed as "Unfit for work" How can the Pdc, who have been involved with the betting industry let him play in this event knowing full well that he was a whipping boy for the other 3 players in the group, from what i hear from a betting point of view, Mr bates cost some high street bookies alot of money over the course of his 3 days.

that's a dangerous road to go down though. if they started introducing a minimum standard half the tour school entrants would be told to fuck off

My point is terry? (anything to Kevin by the way) that if he went for a medical for a job last night he would have failed it. He was unfit for work in my opinion, therefore, with the money involved in the game, and the regulations that have to be met, he was unfit to play. Of all things his throwing hand was an issue.

[Joe]

I was thinking, surely barry bates would be classed as "Unfit for work" How can the Pdc, who have been involved with the betting industry let him play in this event knowing full well that he was a whipping boy for the other 3 players in the group, from what i hear from a betting point of view, Mr bates cost some high street bookies alot of money over the course of his 3 days.

The bookies should have priced his games up a bit better. Dont have much sympathy for them

But I agree in principle, he perhaps should have been nowhere near the event.

The reason i bring the betting side into it is as you know Ginger, that the Pdc and Barry hearn rely alot on them for most of them tv events. The bookies copped something was wrong, but all to late, some got burnt in a big way, especially against caris, (caris opened up 4/6 with sky bet) by the start of play he was as short as 1/4, plus the correc score betting took a hammering, punters covering the 5-0/5-1 scorelines, making a tidy killing. Surely if the Pdc knew he wasnt fit to play darts, they should have informed the betting companies of this to cancel all markets on games involving bates. if gary Anderson (Just an example, plucked from the top of my head ) was involved in games where market moves of 4/6 to 1/4 happened there would be a stewards enquiry.

[The Ginge Reaper]

Gaz, why did you add "average of averages" as a descriptor to the table you copied from elsewhere when the initial list didnt have that heading, and it is in fact the "true average"?

[Joe]

I was thinking, surely barry bates would be classed as "Unfit for work" How can the Pdc, who have been involved with the betting industry let him play in this event knowing full well that he was a whipping boy for the other 3 players in the group, from what i hear from a betting point of view, Mr bates cost some high street bookies alot of money over the course of his 3 days.

The bookies should have priced his games up a bit better. Dont have much sympathy for them

But I agree in principle, he perhaps should have been nowhere near the event.

The reason i bring the betting side into it is as you know Ginger, that the Pdc and Barry hearn rely alot on them for most of them tv events. The bookies copped something was wrong, but all to late, some got burnt in a big way, especially against caris, (caris opened up 4/6 with sky bet) by the start of play he was as short as 1/4, plus the correc score betting took a hammering, punters covering the 5-0/5-1 scorelines, making a tidy killing. Surely if the Pdc knew he wasnt fit to play darts, they should have informed the betting companies of this to cancel all markets on games involving bates. if gary Anderson (Just an example, plucked from the top of my head ) was involved in games where market moves of 4/6 to 1/4 happened there would be a stewards enquiry.

For example, a bet placed with the lovely sponsors last Friday covering the 5-0 & 5-1 score lines in 8 x £5 trebles would have returned £1,875 for a £40 stake. Now if someone had the sense to place several of these bets in different branches of the sponsor's shops, they could well have been picking up enough to buy a house this morning.

Correct Snake, and all because mr bates wasnt fit for action, the Pdc knowing this, and some people that know whats going on in the pdc pro tour events knew he wasnt up to much. You can bet your life that mr harrington, mr warrinner and others had a few bets well placed.

[Terry Kenny]

joe and the end of the day, he qualified, he played. the bookies should of got a better grip on the odds. i remember roland turning up to an event one year and had a 17 average or something daft because his shoulder was fucked. he still got paid though, and thats why bates was there

[The Ginge Reaper]

joe and the end of the day, he qualified, he played. the bookies should of got a better grip on the odds. i remember roland turning up to an event one year and had a 17 average or something daft because his shoulder was fucked. he still got paid though, and thats why bates was there

This. The bookies should have been pricing up the odds for a 5-0 or 5-1 at something ridiculous like 1/100 if they had concerns, is it the PDC's job to tell the bookies someone is out of form? In which case, loads of players shouldnt have odds whatsoever.

[Joe]

joe and the end of the day, he qualified, he played. the bookies should of got a better grip on the odds. i remember roland turning up to an event one year and had a 17 average or something daft because his shoulder was fucked. he still got paid though, and thats why bates was there

He did qualify, and he is a nice lad, i know him from his county days, but what im saying is the Pdc have a right to inform the betting industry, because you ask any proper punter (from what i read the very same snakeshipsX2 is the person to ask, this is classed as irregular betting paterns, when a player opens at 4/6 and goes into 1/4 before the off. This can lead to questions being asked, and possible loss of sponsors

[Joe]

joe and the end of the day, he qualified, he played. the bookies should of got a better grip on the odds. i remember roland turning up to an event one year and had a 17 average or something daft because his shoulder was fucked. he still got paid though, and thats why bates was there

This. The bookies should have been pricing up the odds for a 5-0 or 5-1 at something ridiculous like 1/100 if they had concerns, is it the PDC's job to tell the bookies someone is out of form? In which case, loads of players shouldnt have odds whatsoever.

Out of form?
He was unfit to play, not out of form, there is a big difference.

[The Ginge Reaper]

joe and the end of the day, he qualified, he played. the bookies should of got a better grip on the odds. i remember roland turning up to an event one year and had a 17 average or something daft because his shoulder was fucked. he still got paid though, and thats why bates was there

This. The bookies should have been pricing up the odds for a 5-0 or 5-1 at something ridiculous like 1/100 if they had concerns, is it the PDC's job to tell the bookies someone is out of form? In which case, loads of players shouldnt have odds whatsoever.

Out of form?
He was unfit to play, not out of form, there is a big difference.

He didnt throw anywhere near as bad an average as Scholten did when he was unfit. Bar the first match the other two averages dont look that out of place, Dekker and Vinny also threw a 70-something average during this week.

[Terry Kenny]

yes, but bates has been hobbling round like a fuckin cripple for years, im sure they had no problem taking money off people who bet on his games then.

punters win some

bookies win most

fuck em