The Saville Enquiry

[M H]

As this has unwound I've had many thoughts and I guess now the predominant thought is why now?

Back in the seventies and eighties it was no secret that the stars and those close were well into the groupies regardless of how old they were and teenagers threw themselves at them given half a chance. Sex, drugs and rock n roll was the culture of the day.

I'm not condoning under age sex or sexual exploitation of minors in any way at all but what is to be gained by all these enquiries? Apart from the tabloids having a field day when at the time they could have exposed it all.

When I was 13, 14, 15 I was shagging girls my age and older and in today's climate that would be classed as statutory rape. After I turned 16 my girlfriend was two months younger so I'm also guilty of having sex with a minor.

Will any good come out of all this?

[Justin Credible]

just another excuse for shitheads to appear like they actually give a fuck, some others will earn a handy wedge, those of power and inflience will be lawyered up to the gills and wont face no trouble.
The media will hype this in a frenzy mode etc.

I do not like this attacking of people when they are dead and unable to defend their name and not fair on the family without actual proof.
If there is proff why wait til he is dead.I like everyone had suspicions about many people whilst alive but when they die unconvicted or un charged then the media with no proof should have no right to make false allegations without proof.

[micko]

It's about older men in positions of power preying on children MH, not two kids having consentual sex. Reminds me of what went on here with some of the clergy and other people in positions of trust taking advantage of kids.

A lot of people are guilty of covering up this abuse and have to be brought to justice. By not following up on these accusations and having inquiries will only work to the advantage of the abusers and their apologists.

[M H]

Those who covered up were there complaints at the time should face justice but, and there's a big but. It appears loads are jumping on the bandwaggon now.

A man groping a girl in a hospital bed is beyond comprehension but there was a load of teens at the time throwing themselves at these people. The culture was take it as it comes.

Janet Street Porter recently said she knew what was going on but never said a word back then.

[micko]

I personally couldn't give two fucks what people think the culture was back then, it was only the culture because people let it go on. Hiding what happened only works in favour of the abusers. Adults who have preyed or prey on children have to be outed for the scum they are, and as for those who covered up for these monsters, fuck them, haul then up in front of the courts and name and shame.

[Randall]

mcalpine has got 185k of the beeb for deformation.

[Knots & crosses]

mcalpine has got 185k of the beeb for deformation.

Which he should donate to children's charities. But will pocket.

[Randall]

mcalpine has got 185k of the beeb for deformation.

Which he should donate to children's charities. But will pocket.

did the bbc chap give his half mill back, havent heard?

[Justin Credible]

mcalpine has got 185k of the beeb for deformation.

Which he should donate to children's charities. But will pocket.

rightfully so, no doubt he will be a cunt for that too.
He should not be obliged to donate it

[Knots & crosses]

mcalpine has got 185k of the beeb for deformation.

Which he should donate to children's charities. But will pocket.

rightfully so, no doubt he will be a cunt for that too.
He should not be obliged to donate it

He's not obliged, but it's not like he needs the money. If he is do abhorred by the idea of being accused, giving money to a charity to help victims would be a very clever move.

[Sheep Shagger]

All these nurses and celebrities who are now claiming they knew about it but turned a blind eye should now be charged as accessories, it's strange how all these people suddenly have found their voices.

I actually don't believe that most of what is being claimed never happened but hysteria has taken over. The police are in a lose lose situation, they arrest someone because someone else says that thirty years ago they may have seen them having sex with a girl whose identity they don't know, it's ludicrous but if they do nothing they will be slated for that as well.

[M H]

I believe a load of what's being claimed did happen and there's a load of hysteria clouding the issue. The assaults on kids that were known and covered up are pertinent and as Nick said those now piping up who knew were complicit with their silence.

The girls who threw themselves at these celebs don't have a case in my opinion as they probably did look over 16. However, anyone abused without consent have a case and that to me is where the differential lies

[Randall]

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[Justin Credible]

CLICK

[M H]

Watching a ToTP on BBC4 and "Kid" Jensen's all over females as he introduces the acts. Would the BBC have been better off cutting these re runs?

[Stran]

I think there is a definate difference between a groupie and kids under 11/12 getting shagged or touched.

[M H]

I think there is a definate difference between a groupie and kids under 11/12 getting shagged or touched.

There is mate but back then there were a load of very young groupies that looked older than their years

[D & B]

I think there is a definate difference between a groupie and kids under 11/12 getting shagged or touched.

There is mate but back then there were a load of very young groupies that looked older than their years

That is not an excuse.

If you are not certain then don't do it, surely??

[Stran]

also , the groupies thing ok maybe you could say they looked older.

but what about the girls that didnt throw themselves at them and the ones where they were getting inappropriatly touched without asking to be etc

i dont think the teenage girls 14 and above ill say for arguements sake , that agreed to it or threw themselves at them , can be put in the same category as the ones that didnt ?>

[Stran]

supposedly girls as young as 9 involved.

no way can you say they looked anywhere near enough