Who would be the most unlikely TV major winner?

Post by **Emulsfier** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:46 pm

Well?

Post by **TheMalteseDart** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:50 pm

De Dekker for me. If Joyce is going to win one it would be this, he's made 2 TV semi's before also and been around a lot longer.

I'd assume Joyce was slightly shorter in the odds but both probably around 150/1 and 200/1 to win.

UK Open has the open draw factor which negates it slightly, Gilding was more of a shock than Noppert though for me.

Based on the above, In order i'd go:

De Dekker
Joyce
Gilding
Noppert

Post by **Ross, Bob** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:02 pm

Why is Barney not an option?

Post by **Emulsfier** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:05 pm

Ross, Bob wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:02 pm Why is Barney not an option?

He wont be winning anything dont worry.

Post by **Greipel** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:05 pm

Joyce as he's a fat jobber. De Decker is a man of the future.

Post by **Ross, Bob** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:16 pm

Emulsfier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:05 pm
Ross, Bob wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:02 pm Why is Barney not an option?
He wont be winning anything dont worry.

Is the right answer.

Post by **The Thorn** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:37 pm

Was Noppert more likely than Ross Smith

I can't remember

Post by **The real ssjsa** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:41 pm

Joyce for me, as I think Mike de Decker winning the Grand Prix would not be a surprise given how well he has played all tournament.

Post by **The Crow** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:37 pm

Larry Butler winning the World Matchplay for me.

Post by **DeepFriedRat** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:37 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:50 pm De Dekker for me. If Joyce is going to win one it would be this, he's made 2 TV semi's before also and been around a lot longer.

I'd assume Joyce was slightly shorter in the odds but both probably around 150/1 and 200/1 to win.

UK Open has the open draw factor which negates it slightly, Gilding was more of a shock than Noppert though for me.

Based on the above, In order i'd go:

De Dekker
Joyce
Gilding
Noppert

+1

I genuinely can't remember De Decker even winning many games at all on tv at all before this week. A game or two at Ally Pally and that's it.

Joyce's TV record is deeply overlooked by pundits as you say. Beat 2020 Wright, 2022 Price, Wade, Cross, Heta all on tv, list goes on.

That plus two floor wins spread over 3 years, with a load of other finals thrown in too. Plus double start format, we knew he was dangerous.

De Decker, although very impressive, wasn't even in the WGP conversation 6 months ago and now he could win the whole thing by bulldozing past five tv winners enroute.

Definitely De Decker.

Post by **Dfc180** » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:37 pm

Gilding was the biggest surprise probably of all time. Nobody would have seen that coming

Post by **PT13** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:06 am

Dfc180 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:37 pm Gilding was the biggest surprise probably of all time. Nobody would have seen that coming

Gilding did play amazing at the UK Open in 2015, some 8 years before he won the event. At the 2015 UK Open, he pushed Michael van Gerwen to the limit in the semi finals, losing 8-10 despite leading for some of the way, and despite a 108 average. The 2023 UK Open must have felt like unfinished business after 8 years for Andrew Gilding, beating MvG in the final 11-10, despite more modest 90s averages.

Post by **Malanax** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:55 am

Dfc180 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:37 pm Gilding was the biggest surprise probably of all time. Nobody would have seen that coming

he was playing out of skin on the pro tour leading up to it, loads of ton plus averages, and the uk open gives that open draw affect

Post by **Potter's Lake** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:05 am

Of the four, it's De Decker.

Noppert was a mild surprise rather than a shock, he'd reached a TV final before, even if there is a massive asterisk alongside it.
Gilding, as people have said, had something vaguely approaching pedigree, and the UK Open was previously a favoured event of his.
Joyce has played some good games and beaten some big names, it's likely there are some people who don't reside on an Internet forum in 2024 who have at least heard of him.
De Decker? He sounds like a Jamaican asking for a drill. He's a complete unknown, and if he loses in the semi he still will be, thanks to some sort of transitive property.

Post by **ChrisW** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:30 am

Definitely Joyce. Think Decks will be featuring at the business end a lot more.

Post by **Rogg** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:32 am

I've asked FEBs if he can make a table of MDD's complete record on TV. I cannot recall him winning a single one, which in itself must threaten to make his run this week almost uniquely absurd if he ends up winning the tournament. He's beaten Heta, Anderson and Wade so far.

Post by **The Thorn** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:33 am

Rogg wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:32 am I've asked FEBs if he can make a table of MDD's complete record on TV. I cannot recall him winning a single one, which in itself must threaten to make his run this week almost uniquely absurd if he ends up winning the tournament. He's beaten Heta, Anderson and Wade so far.

It's on Wikipedia

UK Open last 16 this year

Post by **Rogg** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:41 am

I have to start paying him.

De Decker's TV record inc. all PC Finals/Open matches, with many thanks to FEBs: https://x.com/FEBsData

Post by **Safc** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:55 am

Dfc180 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:37 pm Gilding was the biggest surprise probably of all time. Nobody would have seen that coming

Me and Malt did we had money on it

Post by **Greipel** » Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:26 pm

Rogg wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:41 am I have to start paying him.

De Decker's TV record inc. all PC Finals/Open matches, with many thanks to FEBs: https://x.com/FEBsData

Losing to Matt Clark.