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[sennafan24]

So despite facing Lloyd x4, Barney x2, Fordham x2, and numerous others such as Mardle, David, Manley, Scholten, Dudbridge, etc, the only TV defeat Taylor suffered in 2005 from what I can tell came against Part in the Matchplay in what was a belting game.

[Rogg]

So despite facing Lloyd x4, Barney x2, Fordham x2, and numerous others such as Mardle, David, Manley, Scholten, Dudbridge, etc, the only TV defeat Taylor suffered in 2005 from what I can tell came against Part in the Matchplay in what was a belting game.

Here is what we had for the senior tour for that season.

Indeed Taylor only lost that one game to Part on TV all season. Part actually beat him reasonably comfortably. Plus he had one draw in the PL, 6-6 with Lloydy.



55 MoD • 2005 - Phil Taylor def Andy Fordham 7-1
56 PL • 2005 - Phil Taylor def Colin Lloyd 16-4
57 UK • 2005 - Phil Taylor def Mark Walsh 13-7
59 LV • 2005 - Phil Taylor def Wayne Mardle 6-1
60 WM • 2005 - Colin Lloyd def John Part 18-12
61 WGP • 2005 - Phil Taylor def Colin Lloyd 7-1
62 WC • 2006 - Phil Taylor def Peter Manley 7-0

[HalloweenJack]

I do think Taylor's 05/06 season is underrated.

- He won every PDC TV event in 2005 with the exception of the Matchplay where he lost to Part. Including going unbeaten in the original PL.

- Other than a scare against Mardle in the semis he was in absolute peak form at the 06 Worlds.

- Won the cross code Masters Of Darts, beating the top BDO players along the way.

- Dominated Barney in non-TV cross-code games.

[sennafan24]

So despite facing Lloyd x4, Barney x2, Fordham x2, and numerous others such as Mardle, David, Manley, Scholten, Dudbridge, etc, the only TV defeat Taylor suffered in 2005 from what I can tell came against Part in the Matchplay in what was a belting game.

Here is what we had for the senior tour for that season.

Indeed Taylor only lost that one game to Part on TV all season. Part actually beat him reasonably comfortably. Plus he had one draw in the PL, 6-6 with Lloydy.



55 MoD • 2005 - Phil Taylor def Andy Fordham 7-1
56 PL • 2005 - Phil Taylor def Colin Lloyd 16-4
57 UK • 2005 - Phil Taylor def Mark Walsh 13-7
59 LV • 2005 - Phil Taylor def Wayne Mardle 6-1
60 WM • 2005 - Colin Lloyd def John Part 18-12
61 WGP • 2005 - Phil Taylor def Colin Lloyd 7-1
62 WC • 2006 - Phil Taylor def Peter Manley 7-0

Thanks for reminding me about the Desert Classic.

Taylor looked in formidable form in that event too, averaging over a ton in the quarters, semi and final. Mardle knocked out Lloydy in the quarters in what appears to have been a belter.

On all this evidence I think 05 should be included with 97, 2000-2002 and 2008-2010 as one of Taylor's peak years.

[Rogg]

I remember that Sky were bigging up the Taylor clean sweep at that year's Matchplay as he'd already won the PL, Open and Vegas.

Part wrecked it fairly spectacularly. Taylor was 4-1 up in their Matchplay QF but lost it 11-16. Part won 15 of the last 22 legs to beat him.

[sennafan24]

I remember that Sky were bigging up the Taylor clean sweep at that year's Matchplay as he'd already won the PL, Open and Vegas.

Part wrecked it fairly spectacularly. Taylor was 4-1 up in their Matchplay QF but lost it 11-16. Part won 15 of the last 22 legs to beat him.

Part also came close to beating him in the UK Open that year and ran him close in one of their PL games.

Part certainly did better on TV that year against Taylor than Lloydy.

[PT13]

I remember that Sky were bigging up the Taylor clean sweep at that year's Matchplay as he'd already won the PL, Open and Vegas.

Part wrecked it fairly spectacularly. Taylor was 4-1 up in their Matchplay QF but lost it 11-16. Part won 15 of the last 22 legs to beat him.

Part also came close to beating him in the UK Open that year and ran him close in one of their PL games.

Part certainly did better on TV that year against Taylor than Lloydy.

Part led Taylor 4-0, 7-1 and 10-6 at the 2005 UK Open, before Taylor won 11-10. As mentioned, Part avenged this loss at the 2005 World Matchplay, coming back from 1-4 down to win 16-11.

Part in that 2002-2005 period seemed to be the only one seriously challenging Taylor on TV, also beating Taylor at the 2003 World Championship, 2003 Las Vegas Desert Classic and the 2004 UK Open, and narrowly losing to Taylor the 2002 World Matchplay. Taylor did batter Part at the 2002 and 2003 World Grand Prix finals (although Part made the late sets of the 2002 final very competitive). Taylor also beat Part at the 2004 World Matchplay, winning 17-8 after leading 10-0. Taylor lost 5 times on TV in total from 2003-2005, and it was Part who beat him in 4 of those.

Part had the right mental attitude against Taylor.

[sennafan24]

Part led Taylor 4-0, 7-1 and 10-6 at the 2005 UK Open, before Taylor won 11-10. As mentioned, Part avenged this loss at the 2005 World Matchplay, coming back from 1-4 down to win 16-11.

Part in that 2002-2005 period seemed to be the only one seriously challenging Taylor on TV, also beating Taylor at the 2003 World Championship and 2004 UK Open, and narrowly losing to Taylor the 2002 World Matchplay. Taylor did batter Part at the 2002 and 2003 World Grand Prix finals (although Part made the late sets of the 2002 final very competitive). Taylor also beat Part at the 2004 World Matchplay, winning 17-8 after leading 10-0.

Part had the right mental attitude against Taylor.

Agreed.

As far as I can tell the closest Taylor came to losing to someone else on TV in 05 was the draw against Lloyd in the PL, and in the semi of the PL against Scholten where Taylor only averaged 91 and won 13-11.

Mardle also came close at the 06 Worlds.

Edit: Priestley also came close in the Matchplay before Part beat him.

[Rogg]

I can't think of that Taylor-Scholten PL SF without grinding my teeth. What a hot mess.

[PT13]

Part led Taylor 4-0, 7-1 and 10-6 at the 2005 UK Open, before Taylor won 11-10. As mentioned, Part avenged this loss at the 2005 World Matchplay, coming back from 1-4 down to win 16-11.

Part in that 2002-2005 period seemed to be the only one seriously challenging Taylor on TV, also beating Taylor at the 2003 World Championship and 2004 UK Open, and narrowly losing to Taylor the 2002 World Matchplay. Taylor did batter Part at the 2002 and 2003 World Grand Prix finals (although Part made the late sets of the 2002 final very competitive). Taylor also beat Part at the 2004 World Matchplay, winning 17-8 after leading 10-0.

Part had the right mental attitude against Taylor.

Agreed.

As far as I can tell the closest Taylor came to losing to someone else on TV in 05 was the draw against Lloyd in the PL, and in the semi of the PL against Scholten where Taylor only averaged 91 and won 13-11.

Mardle also came close at the 06 Worlds.

Edit: Priestley also came close in the Matchplay before Part beat him.

Scholten led Taylor 11-7 in that 2005 Premier League semi final in a race to 13. That was the day when Sid Waddell and Colin Lloyd had a bit of an argument, where Sid said that Colin (the official world number 1) wasn't as good as Taylor and was slow out of the starting blocks. Sid backed Manley to beat Lloyd that night in the semi final, but Lloyd put on a good performance and won 13-7. Lloyd then had a pop at Sid Waddell in his post-match interview. And then Taylor had the struggle with Scholten, playing well below par as if to embarrass Sid, went 7-11 down, yet somehow found the will to win 13-11 without playing hugely better.

The 2005 Premier League (the first one) was the only year when they played the semi finals and the final on different days. The next night for the final, Taylor was his proper self and beat Lloyd badly 16-4.

The 2005 World Matchplay Taylor vs. Priestley match became a gripping epic and classic, after a slow start. Priestley took out a 156 to lead 13-12, but Taylor won 15-13. At this time, Priestley had been in average to poor form for about 3 years, so it was even more impressive how Priestley used that 2005 World Matchplay match against Taylor to get back into excellent form again over the next few years. He finished 2006 as world number 3.

[sennafan24]

Scholten led Taylor 11-7 in that 2005 Premier League semi final in a race to 13. That was the day when Sid Waddell and Colin Lloyd had a bit of an argument, where Sid said that Colin (the official world number 1) wasn't as good as Taylor and was slow out of the starting blocks. Sid backed Manley to beat Lloyd that night in the semi final, but Lloyd put on a good performance and won 13-7. Lloyd then had a pop at Sid Waddell in his post-match interview. And then Taylor had the struggle with Scholten, playing well below par as if to embarrass Sid, went 7-11 down, yet somehow found the will to win 13-11 without playing hugely better.

The 2005 Premier League (the first one) was the only year when they played the semi finals and the final on different days. The next night for the final, Taylor was his proper self and beat Lloyd badly 16-4.

The 2005 World Matchplay Taylor vs. Priestley match became a gripping epic and classic, after a slow start. Priestley took out a 156 to lead 13-12, but Taylor won 15-13. At this time, Priestley had been in average to poor form for about 3 years, so it was even more impressive how Priestley used that 2005 World Matchplay match against Taylor to get back into excellent form again over the next few years. He finished 2006 as world number 3.

We discussed the bolded in another thread yesterday

[sennafan24]

The 2005 World Matchplay Taylor vs. Priestley match became a gripping epic and classic, after a slow start. Priestley took out a 156 to lead 13-12, but Taylor won 15-13. At this time, Priestley had been in average to poor form for about 3 years, so it was even more impressive how Priestley used that 2005 World Matchplay match against Taylor to get back into excellent form again over the next few years. He finished 2006 as world number 3.

I genuinely cannot remember watching that game.

But I do remember watching the Taylor vs Part games. The UK Open one in particular.

[PT13]

I can't think of that Taylor-Scholten PL SF without grinding my teeth. What a hot mess.

Scholten didn't make that mistake the following year, when as underdog he battered Barney 11-3 in their 2006 Premier League semi final. Taylor still beat Scholten that night in the final though, 16-6.

[Rogg]

And then Taylor had the struggle with Scholten, playing well below par as if to embarrass Sid, went 7-11 down, yet somehow found the will to win 13-11 without playing hugely better.

That's one way of putting it. Scholten puddled disgracefully like the wet waste of bones he was in the presence of Big Doug. He missed 6 darts for 12-10 and I would have been added to a watch list if I were internetting about it that night.

[sennafan24]

And then Taylor had the struggle with Scholten, playing well below par as if to embarrass Sid, went 7-11 down, yet somehow found the will to win 13-11 without playing hugely better.

That's one way of putting it. Scholten puddled disgracefully like the wet waste of bones he was in the presence of Big Doug. He missed 6 darts for 12-10 and I would have been added to a watch list if I were internetting about it that night.

I can imagine Young Rogg mocked Sid's Taylor hyperbole similarly to how Current Rogg mocks Randall's Taylor hyperbole.

[Rogg]

I can't think of that Taylor-Scholten PL SF without grinding my teeth. What a hot mess.

Scholten didn't make that mistake the following year, when as underdog he battered Barney 11-3 in their 2006 Premier League semi final. Taylor still beat Scholten that night in the final though, 16-6.

That was perhaps the most Scholten thing ever.

[vizIIsto]

Scholten mastered the evasion of a potential breakthrough moment at nearly any opportunity he got.

[sennafan24]

Scholten mastered the evasion of a potential breakthrough moment at nearly any opportunity he got.

[vizIIsto]

Scholten mastered the evasion of a potential breakthrough moment at nearly any opportunity he got.

That's why I said 'nearly'.

Otherwise he would be Jenkins.

[Rogg]

And then Taylor had the struggle with Scholten, playing well below par as if to embarrass Sid, went 7-11 down, yet somehow found the will to win 13-11 without playing hugely better.

That's one way of putting it. Scholten puddled disgracefully like the wet waste of bones he was in the presence of Big Doug. He missed 6 darts for 12-10 and I would have been added to a watch list if I were internetting about it that night.

I can imagine Young Rogg mocked Sid's Taylor hyperbole similarly to how Current Rogg mocks Randall's Taylor hyperbole.

Young Rogg did have its notable issues with Sid. Shame Sid never got to commentate much on Mighty Mike. He tried hard to big him up but he was crap at the time, even worse than he is now.