What changes would you make to PDC TV Events?

[Cooking with Sandra]

[tungsten tossers]

Make all events seeded leg play with all 128 tour card holders in them.

"FFS Humphries v Dragt and Zonneveld getting a bye again"

[Dfc180]

The only things I would change is in the grand slam you can't play the same person again until the final and the PL format back to a league with more players (12) but relegation means you can't be picked the next year

[TheMalteseDart]

World Masters back to set play

[The Thorn]

More womens spots needed in Worlds at least 4

Bring back Champions League of Darts but with 8 tour card qualifiers

World Series should include a women from every local country

[sennafan24]

More womens spots needed in Worlds at least 4

Bring back Champions League of Darts but with 8 tour card qualifiers

World Series should include a women from every local country

With the World Series events and PL we already have too many non-ranking events with fields of 8-16 featuring the top 10 players in the world.

What is needed is an additional ranking event with at least 32 TC holders as participants.

[Safc]

The only things I would change is in the grand slam you can't play the same person again until the final and the PL format back to a league with more players (12) but relegation means you can't be picked the next year

+1

[The Thorn]

More womens spots needed in Worlds at least 4

Bring back Champions League of Darts but with 8 tour card qualifiers

World Series should include a women from every local country

With the World Series events and PL we already have too many non-ranking events with fields of 8-16 featuring the top 10 players in the world.

What is needed is an additional ranking event with at least 32 TC holders as participants.

This is what I'm proposing to see 8 different players. Even if it would be non ranked!

[sennafan24]

More womens spots needed in Worlds at least 4

Bring back Champions League of Darts but with 8 tour card qualifiers

World Series should include a women from every local country

With the World Series events and PL we already have too many non-ranking events with fields of 8-16 featuring the top 10 players in the world.

What is needed is an additional ranking event with at least 32 TC holders as participants.

This is what I'm proposing to see 8 different players. Even if it would be non ranked!

Ahhh right, I thought you were proposing expanding the field from 8 to 16.

Yeah, no chance that a CLOD event without the top players is viable. As overexposed as the top players are on TV it is them that drive most of the ticket sales and interest. Which is why I propose events featuring them, but with expanded fields to freshen things up a bit.

[The Thorn]

More womens spots needed in Worlds at least 4

Bring back Champions League of Darts but with 8 tour card qualifiers

World Series should include a women from every local country

With the World Series events and PL we already have too many non-ranking events with fields of 8-16 featuring the top 10 players in the world.

What is needed is an additional ranking event with at least 32 TC holders as participants.

This is what I'm proposing to see 8 different players. Even if it would be non ranked!

Ahhh right, I thought you were proposing expanding the field from 8 to 16.

Yeah, no chance that a CLOD event without the top players is viable. As overexposed as the top players are on TV it is them that drive most of the ticket sales and interest. Which is why I propose events featuring them, but with expanded fields to freshen things up a bit.

That's tough to do however. With only 32 players you don't freshen it up a lot. Matchplay, WGP and even Euros pretty much got the same field. Grand Slam is actually the best at this involving women and youth. If you go above 32 players it's just too much and you probably have to play on multiple stages.

[sennafan24]

That's tough to do however. With only 32 players you don't freshen it up a lot. Matchplay, WGP and even Euros pretty much got the same field. Grand Slam is actually the best at this involving women and youth. If you go above 32 players it's just too much and you probably have to play on multiple stages.

They can possibly explore the shootout format (if they want to go to a 32 person field and perhaps beyond) or tinker with the format of the stale Masters event. Both ideas have been discussed in depth on this forum previously.

A lot of the TV ranking events with larger fields are also loaded in the second half of the year. After the Worlds there is only the UK Open and Masters (which is non-ranking and dull) in the first half of the year that have fields greater than 16 players IIRC.

[TheMalteseDart]

One thing i'd say about expanding tournaments such as the UK Open to 256 is you'd have to dilute the prize money even more. You can be ranked like 114th in the World and then have a good run to say the 6th round of the UK Open and the prize money isn't too great as it is let alone with another 100 odd players.

I think most formats of things are pretty decent. Grand Slam could do with a bit of sorting, no meeting a player you played in the groups till at least Semi's. Winners of pro tours should be automatically in, and spare spots filled by a floor qualifier

Prem to go back to league format, it's bad for darts when Humphries and Littler play each other every week

Masters I just wouldn't bother with

[sennafan24]

Masters I just wouldn't bother with

If you have a decent TV network willing to show an additional event and a decent prize fund for which to pay out to players then there is little incentive to drop it.

Better to just make it more interesting.

Sadly I don't think the PDC or ITV have the motivation or incentive to do so.

[Cooking with Sandra]

World Masters back to set play

The World Masters isn’t a PDC event.

[sennafan24]

The only things I would change is in the grand slam you can't play the same person again until the final and the PL format back to a league with more players (12) but relegation means you can't be picked the next year

That would potentially save us the tedium of having Barney and Wright stink up the event for years on end.

However, the PDC would never implement such a policy. It has the potential to cost them a lot of much needed revenue. For example, let's pretend Littler finishes bottom next season [PL 2025] either due to illness or a poor run of form, yet goes on to win the 2026 Worlds. In that scenario the 2026 PL would be without the World Champ and the PDC' biggest draw.

[Rogg]

It would be great if normal telly had a week-long major event. The PDC haven't had one since early years of the GSoD? And there hasn't been one at all since the BDO went for a lie down.

I suspect this is what they're hoping to put on the table for the new ITV deal. I can't remember exactly what he said but something about how it's time to develop the events that have been bedding in for over a decade. The European Championship perhaps?

[sennafan24]

It would be great if normal telly had a week-long major event. The PDC haven't had one since early years of the GSoD? And there hasn't been one at all since the BDO went for a lie down.

I suspect this is what they're hoping to put on the table for the new ITV deal. I can't remember exactly what he said but something about how it's time to develop the events that have been bedding in for over a decade. The European Championship perhaps?

Quest did show parts of the WDF Spring Calamity a few years back - https://dartswdf.com/news/discovery-uk- ... e-on-quest

But aye, agreed with all of that.

[The Thorn]

It would be great if normal telly had a week-long major event. The PDC haven't had one since early years of the GSoD? And there hasn't been one at all since the BDO went for a lie down.

I suspect this is what they're hoping to put on the table for the new ITV deal. I can't remember exactly what he said but something about how it's time to develop the events that have been bedding in for over a decade. The European Championship perhaps?

Quest did show parts of the WDF Spring Calamity a few years back - https://dartswdf.com/news/discovery-uk- ... e-on-quest

But aye, agreed with all of that.

Had to double check if there was an event called that

[Rogg]

It would be great if normal telly had a week-long major event. The PDC haven't had one since early years of the GSoD? And there hasn't been one at all since the BDO went for a lie down.

I suspect this is what they're hoping to put on the table for the new ITV deal. I can't remember exactly what he said but something about how it's time to develop the events that have been bedding in for over a decade. The European Championship perhaps?

Quest did show parts of the WDF Spring Calamity a few years back - https://dartswdf.com/news/discovery-uk- ... e-on-quest

But aye, agreed with all of that.

So they did.

[Rogg]

Extending events = massive extra costs for broadcaster, venue hire and who knows what else, plus the terror of trying to sell midweek tickets.

No jokes, it would be a giant leap for one of the ITV events. Huge. But hey! We'll make it together. Thorn, take my hand.