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Re: Boxing

Post by Jimmi » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:45 pm

Does anyone think that Fury was shit on purpose to make Usyk underestimate him?

It would be such a Fury thing to do and like Randall said, were they really going to have Fury lose on points under any circumstances?
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Post by Randall » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:47 pm

I had typed out a round be round score but then my phone logged me out so I clearly got the math wrong
I think 3 and 8 were clearly Francis, I think I have him 1 more and the last even with the rest fury
Whatever that adds up to
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:49 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:43 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:09 pm I had it 96-95 fury as I gave the last round even
Furys jab won the middle rounds
Big rounds in 3 and 8 for Francis
It was so ugly with so much holding and posturing that the cards can be understood
With so much stacked on the usyk fight fury was never going to be allowed to lose
If you only have the last round even, then a 96-95 scorecard is mathmatetically impossible.

Remember round 3 was 10-8 Ngannou with the knockdown.

If you scored 4 rounds to Ngannou, 5 for Fury, and the 10th even, then like HJ you scored it a draw.
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Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:51 pm

Why hasn’t Senna put his scorecard ? He falsified one to try to claim I said it was a draw, yet won’t even say who he actually thought won the fight?
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:55 pm

Jimmi wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:45 pm Does anyone think that Fury was shit on purpose to make Usyk underestimate him?

It would be such a Fury thing to do and like Randall said, were they really going to have Fury lose on points under any circumstances?
My own opinion is Fury grossly overestimated Ngannou and trained accordingly. What was evident was how strong Ngannou was and Fury couldn’t maul and bully him, he had to revert to jabbing on the outside and picking up the points. Against Usyk he will be able to use his strength to better effect.
As bad as Fury was, he won at least 6 rounds for me. I gave the 10pm a draw which could have been given either way. Ngannou for me won the 3rd (10-8) the 7th and 8th.
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Post by Randall » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:57 pm

Fury won the fight purely with his jab in a lot of round
He only clearly lost 2 rounds 3 and 8 1 2 and 7 could have gone either way
10 literally nothing happened
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Post by Randall » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:59 pm

In terms of matching up with usyk I think usyk fights at higher tempo, is better technically with a bigger engine
Fury being so big may cancel all that out.
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Re: Boxing

Post by Jimmi » Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:01 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:55 pm
Jimmi wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:45 pm Does anyone think that Fury was shit on purpose to make Usyk underestimate him?

It would be such a Fury thing to do and like Randall said, were they really going to have Fury lose on points under any circumstances?
My own opinion is Fury grossly overestimated Ngannou and trained accordingly. What was evident was how strong Ngannou was and Fury couldn’t maul and bully him, he had to revert to jabbing on the outside and picking up the points. Against Usyk he will be able to use his strength to better effect.
As bad as Fury was, he won at least 6 rounds for me. I gave the 10pm a draw which could have been given either way. Ngannou for me won the 3rd (10-8) the 7th and 8th.
There is an element of that too from Fury but you should never underestimate your opponent in any fight

Ngannou did himself proud, though

And I can’t remember the name of the Irish geezer that was on the panel with Lennox Lewis and Laura Woods but he said that Ngannou won in his opinion
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Post by Randall » Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:03 pm

If you saw Francis edging the nothing round ie 1,2 and 10 maybe but not for me.
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:49 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:55 pm
Jimmi wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:45 pm Does anyone think that Fury was shit on purpose to make Usyk underestimate him?

It would be such a Fury thing to do and like Randall said, were they really going to have Fury lose on points under any circumstances?
My own opinion is Fury grossly overestimated Ngannou and trained accordingly. What was evident was how strong Ngannou was and Fury couldn’t maul and bully him, he had to revert to jabbing on the outside and picking up the points. Against Usyk he will be able to use his strength to better effect.
As bad as Fury was, he won at least 6 rounds for me. I gave the 10pm a draw which could have been given either way. Ngannou for me won the 3rd (10-8) the 7th and 8th.
Probably so.

Usyk defends well on the inside though.

Fury has been slowing for a while now. But fighting the ghost of Del Boy and the overrated Whyte has covered that up. I can easily see Usyk's speed giving him issues on the outside; constantly turning him, etc.
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:07 am

Some very dubious scoring in the Joe Cordina fight.
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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:07 am

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:07 am Some very dubious scoring in the Joe Cordina fight.
I scored it a draw.

The 116-112 scores were generous to Cordina imo.
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Re: Boxing

Post by shenmue » Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:29 am

7-5 to the foreigner or a draw.

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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sun Nov 12, 2023 12:59 pm

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Post by Tommo » Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:11 pm

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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:13 pm

Razor "fought" last night
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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:57 pm

Joshua and wilder will fight on the same bill next month but not each other
What a joke the division is
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:36 pm

Randall wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:57 pm Joshua and wilder will fight on the same bill next month but not each other
What a joke the division is
TBF the proposed card on Dec 23d is good.
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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:50 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:36 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:57 pm Joshua and wilder will fight on the same bill next month but not each other
What a joke the division is
TBF the proposed card on Dec 23d is good.
It's clearly not the fights the division needs
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:53 pm

Randall wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:50 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:36 pm
Randall wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:57 pm Joshua and wilder will fight on the same bill next month but not each other
What a joke the division is
TBF the proposed card on Dec 23d is good.
It's clearly not the fights the division needs
Maybe they could add the rematch between James ‘lights out’ Toney v Donovan’Razor’ Ruddock on the bill ?
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