+1Ross, Bob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:19 pm When I started watching darts (yes, it happened) there where just a few tournaments every year. Now they just spam the calendar year round with shitty jobber tournaments.
I just try to follow the majors and skip the rest. Don't have the time or the patience anymore.
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It's the beauty of seeing different nations and players you wouldn't usually see. It's their big chance once a year. The games are short anyway
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There's a reason you wouldn't normally see those players: they're shit.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:21 pmIt's the beauty of seeing different nations and players you wouldn't usually see. It's their big chance once a year. The games are short anyway

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There was nothing beautiful about the Bahrain, Guyana, Ukraine or Iceland teams' performances this year.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:21 pmIt's the beauty of seeing different nations and players you wouldn't usually see. It's their big chance once a year. The games are short anyway
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Bet your looking forward to seeing Norman Madhoo again at the worldssennafan24 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:23 pmThere was nothing beautiful about the Bahrain, Guyana, Ukraine or Iceland teams' performances this year.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:21 pmIt's the beauty of seeing different nations and players you wouldn't usually see. It's their big chance once a year. The games are short anyway

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It's not that simple. Players from different parts of the world have fewer opportunities. If we want them to get better PDC has to provide them some. World Cup is also a good chance to get darts on TV in those nations and thus also growing the gameRoss, Bob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:22 pmThere's a reason you wouldn't normally see those players: they're shit.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:21 pmIt's the beauty of seeing different nations and players you wouldn't usually see. It's their big chance once a year. The games are short anyway
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I'm more dreading Thorn and co's attempts to make out he's a solid player.
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I was not in favour of expanding the event. There are a few poor teams no doubt. Guyana is an exception because you have to have representation from South America and they won the qualifier fair and square. The other 3 could be booted for all I care.sennafan24 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:23 pmThere was nothing beautiful about the Bahrain, Guyana, Ukraine or Iceland teams' performances this year.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:21 pmIt's the beauty of seeing different nations and players you wouldn't usually see. It's their big chance once a year. The games are short anyway
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So we agree there was too much dross then, good to know.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:28 pmI was not in favour of expanding the event. There are a few poor teams no doubt. Guyana is an exception because you have to have representation from South America and they won the qualifier fair and square. The other 3 could be booted for all I care.sennafan24 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:23 pmThere was nothing beautiful about the Bahrain, Guyana, Ukraine or Iceland teams' performances this year.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:21 pmIt's the beauty of seeing different nations and players you wouldn't usually see. It's their big chance once a year. The games are short anyway
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Yes there are downsides to the new format. I was fine with it previously, didn't think it needed any change. But all in all it's still a very good tournamentsennafan24 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:29 pmSo we agree there was too much dross then, good to know.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:28 pmI was not in favour of expanding the event. There are a few poor teams no doubt. Guyana is an exception because you have to have representation from South America and they won the qualifier fair and square. The other 3 could be booted for all I care.sennafan24 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:23 pmThere was nothing beautiful about the Bahrain, Guyana, Ukraine or Iceland teams' performances this year.
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Why does the entire world population needs to have the same opportunities? Does the PDC owe them that?The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:27 pmIt's not that simple. Players from different parts of the world have fewer opportunities. If we want them to get better PDC has to provide them some. World Cup is also a good chance to get darts on TV in those nations and thus also growing the gameRoss, Bob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:22 pmThere's a reason you wouldn't normally see those players: they're shit.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:21 pmIt's the beauty of seeing different nations and players you wouldn't usually see. It's their big chance once a year. The games are short anyway
Anyway, they can organise tournaments all they want, my point is that the level is generally shit, and I don't want to watch it. Waste of time.

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He is fucking shite.sennafan24 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:27 pmI'm more dreading Thorn and co's attempts to make out he's a solid player.
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Does little for me.
A pairs event featuring the PDC's top 32/64 might however.
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Because it's better to have tournaments with more diverse fields. Both commercially and from the viewer's perspective.Ross, Bob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:32 pmWhy does the entire world population needs to have the same opportunities? Does the PDC owe them that?The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:27 pmIt's not that simple. Players from different parts of the world have fewer opportunities. If we want them to get better PDC has to provide them some. World Cup is also a good chance to get darts on TV in those nations and thus also growing the gameRoss, Bob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:22 pmThere's a reason you wouldn't normally see those players: they're shit.
Anyway, they can organise tournaments all they want, my point is that the level is generally shit, and I don't want to watch it. Waste of time.
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Some people just want to see high quality darts.
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You can see that in the vast majority of tournaments. And even in the World Cup after the group stages. Yes of course it would be the best if the field could be diverse and the quality high but you can't achieve both of these at the same time. It's also playing the long game. If you look at the standard of darts in Germany now, it's clear the PDC's investment is paying off. The goal is to do that in North America, Asia, Oceania, etc. Or at least find the best talent who can play on the main tour.
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Yeah Thorn has a problem with those people.
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When are they gonna host it in Saudi Arabia? Sure hope they beat FIFA to that.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:39 pmBecause it's better to have tournaments with more diverse fields. Both commercially and from the viewer's perspective.Ross, Bob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:32 pmWhy does the entire world population needs to have the same opportunities? Does the PDC owe them that?The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:27 pmIt's not that simple. Players from different parts of the world have fewer opportunities. If we want them to get better PDC has to provide them some. World Cup is also a good chance to get darts on TV in those nations and thus also growing the game
Anyway, they can organise tournaments all they want, my point is that the level is generally shit, and I don't want to watch it. Waste of time.
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The PDC's TV events would have more diversity and high quality if they held more TV events that were open to those outside the top 32. Which is another reason why the shootout concept and a pairs event featuring TC holders is a good idea.The Thorn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:47 pm You can see that in the vast majority of tournaments. And even in the World Cup after the group stages. Yes of course it would be the best if the field could be diverse and the quality high but you can't achieve both of these at the same time. It's also playing the long game. If you look at the standard of darts in Germany now, it's clear the PDC's investment is paying off. The goal is to do that in North America, Asia, Oceania, etc. Or at least find the best talent who can play on the main tour.
The World Cup doesn't have that much relevance to the growth of German darts. The Euro Tour, Euro Q School, holding the European Championship in Germany, etc are more responsible.
The World Cup has been held for over a decade, yet a superstar from the likes of Finland, US, Spain, Japan, etc hasn't emerged.
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Not really. I'm tolerant of other opinions. For me high quality isn't the end all be all. I hate to see the same player or same few players win every tournament even if their standard of play is impressive. Since I watch a lot of darts it's a lot of the same faces in the top 16/32 so I'm always supporting underdogs and different orgs etc.vizIIsto wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:50 pmYeah Thorn has a problem with those people.
Darts is all about different characters for me. Players have different personalities, different throws, different style of play etc. This is why the game is so exciting. Just watching someone throwing darts is not as fascinating if the players bore me, no matter if they are averaging 110.
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