2023 Grand Slam Of Darts

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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by oche balboa » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:55 am

thegentle wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:37 am
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:51 am A bit harsh that he can't have a GSOD Place
Suppose, but I guess the point of offering a GSOD place via the North American Championship is to give a chance to a local player, Jeff is an established tour card holder now (though ironically if he loses his tour card as looks likely now, he can enter it next year and qualify for both the Worlds and the Grand Slam)
Fair enough. But he won the event and deserves a place at the Slam. I know TC's have loads of chances. But its smacks of unfairness. Have no issue with not getting a World Championship place
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:26 pm

oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:51 am A bit harsh that he can't have a GSOD Place
Nah.
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by The Thorn » Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:44 pm

thegentle wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:37 am
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:51 am A bit harsh that he can't have a GSOD Place
Suppose, but I guess the point of offering a GSOD place via the North American Championship is to give a chance to a local player, Jeff is an established tour card holder now (though ironically if he loses his tour card as looks likely now, he can enter it next year and qualify for both the Worlds and the Grand Slam)
It is a bit crap he should be in both Slam and Worlds

Especially now as he also reached the final of the US Masters PDC are looking like fools
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:59 pm

The Thorn wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:44 pm It is a bit crap he should be in both Slam and Worlds
He has plenty of other chances to qualify for both.
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by The Thorn » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:09 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:59 pm
The Thorn wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:44 pm It is a bit crap he should be in both Slam and Worlds
He has plenty of other chances to qualify for both.
Doesn't need another chance as he already won the qualifying event

If he qualifies via another route the spot should be given to North America
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:12 pm

The Thorn wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:09 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:59 pm
The Thorn wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:44 pm It is a bit crap he should be in both Slam and Worlds
He has plenty of other chances to qualify for both.
Doesn't need another chance as he already won the qualifying event

If he qualifies via another route the spot should be given to North America
Should have made more of the opportunities he was given as a TC holder though.

It can't be ignored that he's fallen well short of his own hype as a TC holder.
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by The Thorn » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:18 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:12 pm
The Thorn wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:09 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:59 pm
The Thorn wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:44 pm It is a bit crap he should be in both Slam and Worlds
He has plenty of other chances to qualify for both.
Doesn't need another chance as he already won the qualifying event

If he qualifies via another route the spot should be given to North America
Should have made more of the opportunities he was given as a TC holder though.

It can't be ignored that he's fallen well short of his own hype as a TC holder.
TCs deserve more opportunities than NonTCs. That's the point of the card.

You could argue it's easier to qualify from a lot of local qualifiers than from the tour

So you end up putting the TCs at disadvantage
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:22 pm

The Thorn wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:18 pm TCs deserve more opportunities than NonTCs. That's the point of the card.

You could argue it's easier to qualify from a lot of local qualifiers than from the tour

So you end up putting the TCs at disadvantage
Yes and yes.

Hence why your demand that the PDC give the WDF players entries into the GSOD is daft.

That said, I find it difficult to feel bad for Smith for reasons mentioned above.
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by oche balboa » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:43 pm

Jeff Smith should be in the Grand Slam
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Post by Rogg » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:46 pm

Senna has confused them both now.
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by Dfc180 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:54 pm

oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:55 am
thegentle wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:37 am
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:51 am A bit harsh that he can't have a GSOD Place
Suppose, but I guess the point of offering a GSOD place via the North American Championship is to give a chance to a local player, Jeff is an established tour card holder now (though ironically if he loses his tour card as looks likely now, he can enter it next year and qualify for both the Worlds and the Grand Slam)
Fair enough. But he won the event and deserves a place at the Slam. I know TC's have loads of chances. But its smacks of unfairness. Have no issue with not getting a World Championship place
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by Rogg » Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:56 pm

I always thought people hated tour card holders qualifying for main tour stuff via international events.
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by Dfc180 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:58 pm

Rogg wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:56 pm I always thought people hated tour card holders qualifying for main tour stuff via international events.
Only the Worlds. If the other 6 players get in the gsod with a win, the 2 tour card holders should also get the same reward or not be able to enter the tournament at all

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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by Rogg » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:10 pm

Dfc180 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:58 pm
Rogg wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:56 pm I always thought people hated tour card holders qualifying for main tour stuff via international events.
Only the Worlds. If the other 6 players get in the gsod with a win, the 2 tour card holders should also get the same reward or not be able to enter the tournament at all
I wouldn't want to exclude him from the North American Championship. Having card holders in things helps to prove the pathway and shows to other players what's possible.

Yet I don't think he should gain access to a main tour ranking event on the back of it. Maybe he could play at the GSoD but the money doesn't count on his ranking. This is what they did for Duzza that time.
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by DeepFriedRat » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:12 pm

If Bellyboy doesn't win today

Anderson either consolidates his place or is booted out by Heta

Unless of course Scutt wins the title then it's as you were
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by The Thorn » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:14 pm

DeepFriedRat wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:12 pm Unless of course Scutt wins the title
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:21 pm

Don't like this Scutt hype.

How about some hype instead for the ladies players, international players, or the WDF superstars?
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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by Jimmi » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:29 pm

Got tickets for the 1/4 finals this morning.

Just the 10 minutes for the priority link to buy tickets to appear in my e-mail box after they’d gone on sale.

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Re: 2023 Grand Slam Race

Post by thegentle » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:53 pm

Rogg wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:56 pm I always thought people hated tour card holders qualifying for main tour stuff via international events.
Who remembers Jeff qualifying for Ally Pally via his NDFC ranking? That was a hoot
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