Were Jonny Clayton's TV Title Wins Overrated?

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Were Jonny Clayton's TV Title Wins Overrated?

Post by Smithy1412 » Mon May 22, 2023 8:36 pm

Sorry to offend anybody who loves Jonny Clayton, I like him and he's a great player. However, I feel he's overrated.
    Only one of his TV titles was a ranking tournament, even that was during Covid 19. Most of his TV tournament wins came during Covid 19 with no crowds. I do not feel that he would have won these in regular conditions, although it's a possibility.
      He started to win his TV titles when the crowds disappeared, I do not think that is a coincidence. Before then his world ranking was cemented through floor wins. He was a floor warrior who had the odd good TV run, no different to Mark Walsh and the like.
        Does anybody else feel he's overrated due to TV wins during the pandemic? Or is this a case of me being a fool?
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by Dfc180 » Mon May 22, 2023 8:42 pm

        I dont think so. He is at that level where he is a threat to win at any of the majors but usually doesnt. He was superb during his winning spell

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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by Emulsfier » Mon May 22, 2023 8:44 pm

        Thick cunt cant even make a poll.

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        Post by Cooking with Sandra » Mon May 22, 2023 8:48 pm

        Obviously not.
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by Smithy1412 » Mon May 22, 2023 8:50 pm

        Emulsfier wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 8:44 pm Thick cunt cant even make a poll.

        Fuck off Wolf.
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by DeepFriedRat » Mon May 22, 2023 8:56 pm

        Totally disgraceful thread :D

        He won the Grand Prix, a week long major with a crowd the entire time. Beat Price 5-1 in the final and hit 170 and 164 finishes in back to back legs.

        Won the PL, okay no crowd for a lot of it but there was one for the final week. Also had to win a play-off before the play-offs which everyone forgets.

        Topped the PL league phase last year over 4 months of play and still holds the PL points record.

        Won two Euro Tours over a 5 year period, showing longevity.

        Games against Keane Barry and Michael Smith are all time World Championship classics.

        Hit 91% of his doubles in a 19 leg game enroute to winning his first tv event.

        Two TV nine darters across two years.

        Won the World Series Finals in 2021 (in front of a crowd in Amsterdam) with an eye infection the whole weekend where his eye was swollen to fuck.

        Reached a ranking tv final with his C game at the PCFs at Butlins in 2017 when he was a meddling jobber and has literally not had a year of decline yet.

        If anything he's underrated by every pundit ever (except his mate Webby), especially Mardle who roots against him in almost every game.
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by TheMalteseDart » Mon May 22, 2023 8:58 pm

        An interesting time to post this after he's made the top 4 of the premier league and won an event a day ago
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by shenmue » Mon May 22, 2023 9:04 pm

        Cracking player, not a cunt. Won't win as many majors as wadey but no shame in that.

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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by Safc » Mon May 22, 2023 9:06 pm

        DeepFriedRat wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 8:56 pm Totally disgraceful thread :D

        He won the Grand Prix, a week long major with a crowd the entire time. Beat Price 5-1 in the final and hit 170 and 164 finishes in back to back legs.

        Won the PL, okay no crowd for a lot of it but there was one for the final week. Also had to win a play-off before the play-offs which everyone forgets.

        Topped the PL league phase last year over 4 months of play and still holds the PL points record.

        Won two Euro Tours over a 5 year period, showing longevity.

        Games against Keane Barry and Michael Smith are all time World Championship classics.

        Hit 91% of his doubles in a 19 leg game enroute to winning his first tv event.

        Two TV nine darters across two years.

        Won the World Series Finals in 2021 (in front of a crowd in Amsterdam) with an eye infection the whole weekend where his eye was swollen to fuck.

        Reached a ranking tv final with his C game at the PCFs at Butlins in 2017 when he was a meddling jobber and has literally not had a year of decline yet.

        If anything he's underrated by every pundit ever (except his mate Webby), especially Gobshite Mardle who roots against him in almost every game.
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        PDC love putting him and Chizzy in afternoon Sessions on ET and back room boards at Butlins aswell despite them constantly winning.
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by Smithy1412 » Mon May 22, 2023 9:08 pm

        Didn't realize so many of his TV titles had crowds. My apologies. Couldn't think which tournaments did/did not have crowds around that time
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by Ross, Bob » Mon May 22, 2023 9:09 pm

        Starting new threads is overrated.
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by Smithy1412 » Mon May 22, 2023 9:10 pm

        Ross, Bob wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:09 pm Starting new threads is overrated.
        Apart from this one, obviously
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by The Ginge Reaper » Mon May 22, 2023 9:17 pm

        An actual spastic.
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by Emulsfier » Mon May 22, 2023 9:19 pm

        The Ginge Reaper wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:17 pm An actual spastic.
        Even im not that harsh about Clayton.
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by The Ginge Reaper » Mon May 22, 2023 9:21 pm

        Emulsfier wrote:
        The Ginge Reaper wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:17 pm An actual spastic.
        Even im not that harsh about Clayton.
        Very good.
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by daveboygreen » Mon May 22, 2023 9:24 pm

        The Ginge Reaper wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:17 pm An actual spastic.
        What has any of this got to do with Oche?

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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by Smithy1412 » Mon May 22, 2023 9:31 pm

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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by Safc » Mon May 22, 2023 9:38 pm

        The Ginge Reaper wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:17 pm An actual spastic.
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by The Thorn » Mon May 22, 2023 9:39 pm

        Smithy please cut off your own penis you imbecile
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        Re: Is Jonny Clayton Overrated?

        Post by The Thorn » Mon May 22, 2023 9:40 pm

        DeepFriedRat wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 8:56 pm Won two Euro Tours over a 5 year period, showing longevity.
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