2023 PDC Challenge Tour

[Randall]

Be less of a lottery but arguably unfair on none uk plimsolls

Agreed

I so typed players

[oche balboa]

There are pros and cons of everything.

The current system isn't great but what system actually is

[Rogg]

There are pros and cons of everything.

The current system isn't great but what system actually is

Fair, sir.

Another con of offering very few cards at Q-School is in the case of someone like De Zwaan, Hendo etc.

A player who loses their tour card obviously wasn't playing on the challenge tour. They shouldn't be penalised for that. They need Q-School to be wide open or they are almost in the position of being locked out for a year.

[Rogg]

Play starts at 10am tomorrow. It's like Q-School 2, I like it.

[The Thorn]

There are pros and cons of everything.

The current system isn't great but what system actually is

Fair, sir.

Another con of offering very few cards at Q-School is in the case of someone like De Zwaan, Hendo etc.

A player who loses their tour card obviously wasn't playing on the challenge tour. They shouldn't be penalised for that. They need Q-School to be wide open or they are almost in the position of being locked out for a year.

8 cards for Challenge Tour would be the right compromise.

It's fair enough as players losing their cards get admitted to stage 2 straight away.

[Rogg]

There are pros and cons of everything.

The current system isn't great but what system actually is

Fair, sir.

Another con of offering very few cards at Q-School is in the case of someone like De Zwaan, Hendo etc.

A player who loses their tour card obviously wasn't playing on the challenge tour. They shouldn't be penalised for that. They need Q-School to be wide open or they are almost in the position of being locked out for a year.

8 cards for Challenge Tour would be the right compromise.

It's fair enough as players losing their cards get admitted to stage 2 straight away.

You and malt both say 8. I tend to think a minimum of 4. I think we all agree that 2 is too mean.

[The Thorn]

For an ideal system they could differentiate between people losing their cards ranked 65th and 128th.

I don't know what extra incentive should be offered. But it's clear a lot of people just dropping off tour (Zonneveld, De Zwaan, Mitchell, Hendo, Brown) are still good enough to be on it. And for them the 4 days of Q-School is harsh.

[The Thorn]

There are pros and cons of everything.

The current system isn't great but what system actually is

Fair, sir.

Another con of offering very few cards at Q-School is in the case of someone like De Zwaan, Hendo etc.

A player who loses their tour card obviously wasn't playing on the challenge tour. They shouldn't be penalised for that. They need Q-School to be wide open or they are almost in the position of being locked out for a year.

8 cards for Challenge Tour would be the right compromise.

It's fair enough as players losing their cards get admitted to stage 2 straight away.

You and malt both say 8. I tend to think a minimum of 4. I think we all agree that 2 is too mean.

Yes but you are a darting elitist while I and Malt appreciate all levels of the game!

[sennafan24]

Darts elitism is great.

[sennafan24]

For an ideal system they could differentiate between people losing their cards ranked 65th and 128th.

I don't know what extra incentive should be offered. But it's clear a lot of people just dropping off tour (Zonneveld, De Zwaan, Mitchell, Hendo, Brown) are still good enough to be on it. And for them the 4 days of Q-School is harsh.

[The Thorn]

For an ideal system they could differentiate between people losing their cards ranked 65th and 128th.

I don't know what extra incentive should be offered. But it's clear a lot of people just dropping off tour (Zonneveld, De Zwaan, Mitchell, Hendo, Brown) are still good enough to be on it. And for them the 4 days of Q-School is harsh.

You know I typed that with a grin on my face since it was so obvious you would bite.

My opinion is genuine. After the 64 cutoff maybe take the top 2 or 4 players from the 1 year ranking to also keep their cards. Yes I know Mitchell wouldn't have been part of that.

[sennafan24]

Anyway, I also agree that there should be more cards given to CT participants.

[The Thorn]

Anyway, I also agree that there should be more cards given to CT participants. Unless it's any ex BDO player. Then they should be shot and deported.

OK

[sennafan24]

I miss the BDO.

[The Thorn]

I miss the BDO.

WDF is doing a fine job of replacing them

[TheMalteseDart]

For an ideal system they could differentiate between people losing their cards ranked 65th and 128th.

I don't know what extra incentive should be offered. But it's clear a lot of people just dropping off tour (Zonneveld, De Zwaan, Mitchell, Hendo, Brown) are still good enough to be on it. And for them the 4 days of Q-School is harsh.

You know I typed that with a grin on my face since it was so obvious you would bite.

My opinion is genuine. After the 64 cutoff maybe take the top 2 or 4 players from the 1 year ranking to also keep their cards. Yes I know Mitchell wouldn't have been part of that.

As a notorious jobber lover this would probably be a good thing for some of my favourites but I can’t agree with it. Why should they get extra privileges? Recycling the same players every year who aren’t good enough to make the top 64 after 2 years can’t be good for the game.

Seeing new faces every year at Q School like Slevin and relative unknowns like Rupprechts is a lot more exciting than just recycling the likes of say Hunt, and even I can admit, Boulton. If they earn it back at q school there’s no qualms but there’s no way spots should be held for the 64-128 who was slightly less shit than the rest of the bottom 64 over 1 year

[The Thorn]

For an ideal system they could differentiate between people losing their cards ranked 65th and 128th.

I don't know what extra incentive should be offered. But it's clear a lot of people just dropping off tour (Zonneveld, De Zwaan, Mitchell, Hendo, Brown) are still good enough to be on it. And for them the 4 days of Q-School is harsh.

You know I typed that with a grin on my face since it was so obvious you would bite.

My opinion is genuine. After the 64 cutoff maybe take the top 2 or 4 players from the 1 year ranking to also keep their cards. Yes I know Mitchell wouldn't have been part of that.

As a notorious jobber lover this would probably be a good thing for some of my favourites but I can’t agree with it. Why should they get extra privileges? Recycling the same players every year who aren’t good enough to make the top 64 after 2 years can’t be good for the game.

Seeing new faces every year at Q School like Slevin and relative unknowns like Rupprechts is a lot more exciting than just recycling the likes of say Hunt, and even I can admit, Boulton. If they earn it back at q school there’s no qualms but there’s no way spots should be held for the 64-128 who was slightly less shit than the rest of the bottom 64 over 1 year

Not if they are young players. Zonneveld or De Zwaan have plenty of potential

[sennafan24]

I miss the BDO.

WDF is doing a fine job of replacing them

The WDF hasn't filled the void.

I want Warren Brown type fiascos, Des Jacklin messing up a draw, a pissed up champion taking the mick out of Bobby George, Will Mellor making a tit out of himself on stage, etc.

[The Thorn]

I miss the BDO.

WDF is doing a fine job of replacing them

The WDF hasn't filled the void.

I want Warren Brown type fiascos, Des Jacklin messing up a draw, a pissed up champion taking the mick out of Bobby George, Will Mellor making a tit out of himself on stage, etc.

So you just want to laugh at the players expense

[Randall]

I miss the BDO.

WDF is doing a fine job of replacing them

The WDF hasn't filled the void.

I want Warren Brown type fiascos, Des Jacklin messing up a draw, a pissed up champion taking the mick out of Bobby George, Will Mellor making a tit out of himself on stage, etc.

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