2023 PDC Q-School

[The Thorn]

Fucks sake

[TheMalteseDart]

Hnggggggggggggg must understand forum references from 2015

[The Thorn]

Hnggggggggggggg must understand forum references from 2015

Learn the past to understand the future son

[DeepFriedRat]

" In addition to the daily Tour Card winners, further Tour Cards up to a total of 27 will be awarded on a pro-rata basis to players from the respective UK/European Qualifying School Final Stage Orders of Merit following Day Four."

Surely this is a mistake??

Which part is the mistake

This implies it's 8 automatic + 27 on the OOM

When it's really

27 including 8 automatic

[The Thorn]

" In addition to the daily Tour Card winners, further Tour Cards up to a total of 27 will be awarded on a pro-rata basis to players from the respective UK/European Qualifying School Final Stage Orders of Merit following Day Four."

Surely this is a mistake??

Which part is the mistake

This implies it's 8 automatic + 27 on the OOM

When it's really

27 including 8 automatic

No it doesn't

8 automatic + OoM up to a total of 27

[TheMalteseDart]

Given sd is an obvious multiple.....

Tbf I don't think he is. Because DBG worked out straight away he was Bob Singleton and the times he's said he's going out to play and then has appeared in tournaments on darts atlas matches up.

He qualified for the UK Open once and got dicked by Big Willie O'Connor. So he's officially the most successful dart player who's a regular poster ever to be on the forum

O'Connor used to post in here. In fact he had the most posts on the forum

what was his name?

Someone claimed JC was O'Connor. Probably as a wind-up - https://community.betfair.com/darts/go/ ... comeHeader

Cheers

[Randall]

Given sd is an obvious multiple.....

Tbf I don't think he is. Because DBG worked out straight away he was Bob Singleton and the times he's said he's going out to play and then has appeared in tournaments on darts atlas matches up.

He qualified for the UK Open once and got dicked by Big Willie O'Connor. So he's officially the most successful dart player who's a regular poster ever to be on the forum

Oh OK
What would I know

[The Thorn]

Given sd is an obvious multiple.....

Tbf I don't think he is. Because DBG worked out straight away he was Bob Singleton and the times he's said he's going out to play and then has appeared in tournaments on darts atlas matches up.

He qualified for the UK Open once and got dicked by Big Willie O'Connor. So he's officially the most successful dart player who's a regular poster ever to be on the forum

Oh OK
What would I know

Not much

[Randall]

Given sd is an obvious multiple.....

Tbf I don't think he is. Because DBG worked out straight away he was Bob Singleton and the times he's said he's going out to play and then has appeared in tournaments on darts atlas matches up.

He qualified for the UK Open once and got dicked by Big Willie O'Connor. So he's officially the most successful dart player who's a regular poster ever to be on the forum

Oh OK
What would I know

Not much

You aren't following my fawlty towers success clearly

[thegentle]

I wonder how much of an advantage, if at all, it is to qualify for the final stage as early as possible, there's the tradeoff between getting enough match practice (although I suppose quite a lot of these players are playing in some way shape or form before Q-School) and being overcooked come the end of the week

[DeepFriedRat]

I wonder how much of an advantage, if at all, it is to qualify for the final stage as early as possible, there's the tradeoff between getting enough match practice (although I suppose quite a lot of these players are playing in some way shape or form before Q-School) and being overcooked come the end of the week

I was thinking this too, will sort last year's winners by Day 1, 2, 3 automatics, OOM or exempted

[DeepFriedRat]

UK

James Wilson (exempt, retained)
Darren Webster (exempt, retained)
Ross Montgomery (45/72 on OOM)
Josh Rock (Day 1)
--
Jamie Clark (8/72 on OOM)
Ted Evetts (exempt, retained)
Connor Scutt (5/72 on OOM)
Richie Burnett (14/72 on OOM)
Kevin Burness (3/72 on OOM)
Scott Waites (exempt, retained)
Nathan Rafferty (exempt, DT)
Cameron Menzies (exempt, CT)
John O'Shea (Day 2)
George Killington (Day 3)
Mickey Mansell (exempt, retained)
Nick Fullwell (Day 1)
Shaun Wilkinson (Day 2)

EU

Jose Justicia (exempt, CT)
Brian Raman (55/86 on OOM)
Luc Peters (exempt, CT)
Krzysztof Kciuk (exempt, retained)
---
Mario Vandenbogaerde (Day 1)
Jules van Dongen (11/86 on OOM)
Kevin Doets (exempt, CT)
Tony Martinez (Day 2)
Danny Jansen (Day 3)
Radek Szaganski (6/86 on OOM)
Damian Mol (Day 1)
Jimmy Hendriks (3/86 on OOM)
Ricardo Pietrezcko (Day 1)
Vladimir Andersen (14/86 on OOM)
Rowby John Rodriguez (exempt, CT)

FINAL LOSERS

UK
Cameron Menzies
Scott Waites
Jamie Clark
Nathan Rafferty

EU
Mario Vandenbogaerde
Jules van Dongen
Mario Vandenbogaerde
Tony Martinez

[DeepFriedRat]

Some stats

Exempt- 12/32 (37.8%)
Day 1- 5/32 (15.6%)
Day 2- 3/32 (9.4%)
Day 3- 2/32 (6.3%)
OOM- 10/32 (31.3%)

- As many players got cards after Stage 1 automatic qualification as Order of Merit qualifications.

- 20/32 winners played in Stage 1 vs 12/32 who were exempt.

- 5/8 automatic tour cards were won by exempted players.

- Only 1 player (Josh Rock) won an automatic card after automatically making it past Stage 1.

- Both players who placed 3rd on the Stage 1 OOMs won cards, Kevin Burness and Jimmy Hendriks.

- The lowest player on any Stage 1 OOM to win a card was Brian Raman (55th).

- The top two on both the UK and EU Stage 1 OOMs failed to win cards- Danny Lauby and Simon Stevenson (UK) and Johan Engstrom and Alexander Merkx (EU).

- 5 players retained their cards in the UK- Wilson, Webster, Evetts, Waites and Mansell. Only 1 retained his in Europe- Krzysztof Kciuk.

- Everyone who lost a final went on to win their card anyway on the OOM. Mario Vandebogaerde lost two finals.

[DeepFriedRat]

I wonder how much of an advantage, if at all, it is to qualify for the final stage as early as possible, there's the tradeoff between getting enough match practice (although I suppose quite a lot of these players are playing in some way shape or form before Q-School) and being overcooked come the end of the week

So going off last year's stats

- Being exempt to Stage 2 and starting fresh is the biggest advantage

- Finishing on the Stage 1 OOM, with extra match practice, gives an advantage over automatic Day 1, 2 or 3.

- Automatic on Day 1 for greater rest is more advantageous than Days 2 or 3.

[Greipel]

Jagicza can have a good run tomorrow with a bit luckier draw, if he plays like today. Lakatos seems totally hopeless unfortunately. Where is his Sousa beating and his early 2022 DT form?

[Emulsfier]

Good stats DFR.

[Safc]

Good stats DFR.

+1

[The Thorn]

Good stats DFR.

Stop slurping him.

Some people really have no employment

[skweezit]

the North American Neighborhood Tourcard Watch Program update...

"all's quiet...thought I heard larry butler clearing his throat, but can't confirm..."

[ChrisW]

You can see pros and cons for both sides.

End of the day Final stage players are the better players for the most.

The quality players from stage 1 probably have the quality and stamina to earn a card.

But it is still 27 cards from 850 entrants. No guaranteed route.