I have noticed this.oche balboa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:08 pmYes because the current players are still playingRogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:07 pm Just a general thought here. When people bring up the old players, they always come up as a singular thing. Bristow, today, is the monster of a kid winning everything. He is preserved at his very, very best. Players are only given that luxury once they are long gone.![]()
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Rogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:13 pmI have noticed this.oche balboa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:08 pmYes because the current players are still playingRogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:07 pm Just a general thought here. When people bring up the old players, they always come up as a singular thing. Bristow, today, is the monster of a kid winning everything. He is preserved at his very, very best. Players are only given that luxury once they are long gone.![]()


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Remind me who has the worst average in PDC worlds everRogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:07 pm Just a general thought here. When people bring up the old players, they always come up as a singular thing. Bristow, today, is the monster of a kid winning everything. He is preserved at his very, very best. Players are only given that luxury once they are long gone.
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Bunch of good lads there. I wouldn't be against it.oche balboa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:14 pm Thorn desperate to join the "Roggy Moggy" gang
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Bristow can also be seen as the guy suffering from dartitis or averaging in the 50s against Manley at the 1999 World Championship.Rogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:07 pm Just a general thought here. When people bring up the old players, they always come up as a singular thing. Bristow, today, is the monster of a kid winning everything. He is preserved at his very, very best. Players are only given that luxury once they are long gone.
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There was always a lot of affection for Eric due to his struggles with Dartitis Like today's Boxers sometimes they need protecting from themselves, but with him it was a general love of the game.
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That's not the version Uncle Randall is ever interested in. Yet he's quite interested in the shit versions of MVG.PT13 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:15 pmBristow can also be seen as the guy suffering from dartitis or averaging in the 50s against Manley at the 1999 World Championship.Rogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:07 pm Just a general thought here. When people bring up the old players, they always come up as a singular thing. Bristow, today, is the monster of a kid winning everything. He is preserved at his very, very best. Players are only given that luxury once they are long gone.
That's an alternative way to build the all-time list: whose worst was least bad? Oh let's not. I've got to get out of here.
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Eric's game being ruined by dartitis is somewhat different to mvg falling in a heap when someone puts it up to himRogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:24 pmThat's not the version Uncle Randall is ever interested in. Yet he's quite interested in the shit versions of MVG.PT13 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:15 pmBristow can also be seen as the guy suffering from dartitis or averaging in the 50s against Manley at the 1999 World Championship.Rogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:07 pm Just a general thought here. When people bring up the old players, they always come up as a singular thing. Bristow, today, is the monster of a kid winning everything. He is preserved at his very, very best. Players are only given that luxury once they are long gone.
That's an alternative way to build the all-time list: whose worst was least bad? Oh let's not. I've got to get out of here.

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Well that's life. We all get ruined by something.Randall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:26 pmEric's game being ruined by dartitis is somewhat different to mvg falling in a heap when someone puts it up to himRogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:24 pmThat's not the version Uncle Randall is ever interested in. Yet he's quite interested in the shit versions of MVG.PT13 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:15 pmBristow can also be seen as the guy suffering from dartitis or averaging in the 50s against Manley at the 1999 World Championship.Rogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:07 pm Just a general thought here. When people bring up the old players, they always come up as a singular thing. Bristow, today, is the monster of a kid winning everything. He is preserved at his very, very best. Players are only given that luxury once they are long gone.
That's an alternative way to build the all-time list: whose worst was least bad? Oh let's not. I've got to get out of here.
And there is the MVG assessment in a nutshell. A lemon who fell apart two nights ago.
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Mentally mvg isn't on a par with Taylor or Bristow.Rogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:31 pmWell that's life. We all get ruined by something.Randall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:26 pmEric's game being ruined by dartitis is somewhat different to mvg falling in a heap when someone puts it up to himRogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:24 pmThat's not the version Uncle Randall is ever interested in. Yet he's quite interested in the shit versions of MVG.PT13 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:15 pmBristow can also be seen as the guy suffering from dartitis or averaging in the 50s against Manley at the 1999 World Championship.Rogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:07 pm Just a general thought here. When people bring up the old players, they always come up as a singular thing. Bristow, today, is the monster of a kid winning everything. He is preserved at his very, very best. Players are only given that luxury once they are long gone.
That's an alternative way to build the all-time list: whose worst was least bad? Oh let's not. I've got to get out of here.
And there is the MVG assessment in a nutshell. A lemon who fell apart two nights ago.

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I dislike MVG and his nerdy fanboys on Twitter, but he's at worst 3rd best all-time, arguably 2nd.
I'm not sure I buy this narrative about him being vulnerable under pressure, or at least more so than past greats. It's more that his game has declined in recent years from exceptional to merely great. Thus, it's easier to beat him.
Granted, he did underperform slightly against Smith in the final. He wasn't as potent as he had been against Mensur or Dimi.
I'm not sure I buy this narrative about him being vulnerable under pressure, or at least more so than past greats. It's more that his game has declined in recent years from exceptional to merely great. Thus, it's easier to beat him.
Granted, he did underperform slightly against Smith in the final. He wasn't as potent as he had been against Mensur or Dimi.
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Dartitis is mentalRandall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:33 pmMentally mvg isn't on a par with Taylor or Bristow.Rogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:31 pmWell that's life. We all get ruined by something.Randall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:26 pmEric's game being ruined by dartitis is somewhat different to mvg falling in a heap when someone puts it up to him
And there is the MVG assessment in a nutshell. A lemon who fell apart two nights ago.
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I'm not denying it. I'm just interested in assessing things fairly because people (inc. me!) are generally all over the place.Randall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:33 pmMentally mvg isn't on a par with Taylor or Bristow.Rogg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:31 pmWell that's life. We all get ruined by something.Randall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:26 pmEric's game being ruined by dartitis is somewhat different to mvg falling in a heap when someone puts it up to him
And there is the MVG assessment in a nutshell. A lemon who fell apart two nights ago.
Are all three players at the absolute peak of their powers in your statement?
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For the record Eric would've eaten MVG alive mentally. He was the master of it, and working a crowd.
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How the hell do you even compare Peak MVG and Peak Bristow?
The boards, etc are drastically different between the eras they competed in.
The boards, etc are drastically different between the eras they competed in.
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