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Re: If you ran the pdc.....

Post by Emulsfier » Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:13 pm

oche balboa wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:53 pm cards offered to ...... Overseas players,


3) World Grand Prix- Have a couple of Pro Tours before it to be double start.

4) UK Open- Would like to see more "Amateur" players getting through rileys qualifiers

5) World Series of Darts Qualifier

- Top 8 in World Series OOM
- 2 Pro tour qualifiers
- 2 From Baltic
- 2 from CDC
- 2 from EADC
- 2 From Asia
- 2 From Ocenia
- 4 not qualified from the list

This would be a better "World" status for the event.


6a) Euro Tour events. Germany x2, Holland x2, Belgium, France, Hungary, Czech Republic, Denmark, Italy, Austria, Portugal, 1x Nordic

7) World Series of Darts

Its to promote all countries but would try and go to China, Japan, USA more



10) Premier League

I dont think you can change it, Anything else would be confusing but players who are "Relegated" are disqualified from playing in the competition next year.

11) The Masters

Would like to see this changed from 24 to 32 players in the OOM. 1 vs 32. Ensure more reward for being into the top 32
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oche balboa wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:53 pm What i would do....Sure rip it to pieces if you like

I Would Scrap Q School, Ladies Series (Top 2) & Maybe another couple for youth yours.

1) World Championship - have more for the Pro Tour


8) World Cup of Darts

Make it Doubles only.

Dont agree.
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Re: If you ran the pdc.....

Post by thegentle » Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:17 pm

oche balboa wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:53 pm What i would do....Sure rip it to pieces if you like

I Would Scrap Q School, Sure I am in the minority with this and i still believe its a lottery. But I don't think 4 days of action is enough to be worthy of a card, I would like to see the Challenge Tour be expanded and the cards offered to the top 10 with others offered in Overseas players, Ladies Series (Top 2) & Maybe another couple for youth yours. Challenge Tour is open to everyone and with no Q School its the only way


TV Tournaments

1) World Championship (Nothing wrong with this in reality some overseas spots i would get rid of India for example and have more for the Pro Tour but its only minor changes. The question of it being "Harder" is a good call but you cant do that now 96 is enough and it should stay at that number its harder to qualify for the WMP

2) World Matchplay- As it is a flawless tournament IMO

3) World Grand Prix- Have a couple of Pro Tours before it to be double start.

4) UK Open- Would keep it is, The Balance is fine. Would like to see more "Amateur" players getting through rileys qualifiers but its a right tournament

5) World Series of Darts Qualifier

- Top 8 in World Series OOM
- 2 Pro tour qualifiers
- 2 From Baltic
- 2 from CDC
- 2 from EADC
- 2 From Asia
- 2 From Oceania
- 4 not qualified from the list

This would be a better "World" status for the event.


6) European Championship- Fine as it is.

6a) Euro Tour events. Germany x2, Holland x2, Belgium, France, Hungary, Czech Republic, Denmark, Italy, Austria, Portugal, 1x Nordic

7) World Series of Darts

Its to promote all countries but would try and go to China, Japan, USA more

8) World Cup of Darts

Make it Doubles only.

9) Players Championship

64 players is fine. A good tournament feauring the best on the Pro Tour

10) Premier League

I dont think you can change it, Anything else would be confusing but players who are "Relegated" are disqualified from playing in the competition next year.

11) The Masters

Would like to see this changed from 24 to 32 players in the OOM. 1 vs 32. Ensure more reward for being into the top 32


12) Grand Slam of Darts

Will put that in a different post zzzzzz


MAJOR DEBATE

Into 3 sections


Showcase- Premier League, World Series of Darts (Finals), Grand Slam of Darts
The PDC Grand Slam - Worlds, Matchplay, Grand Prix, UK Open
PDC Elite Series- European Championship, Players, World Cup of Darts, PDC Masters


Showcase- Is invited players which the above 3 would be. Worlds can do this BUT its the elite competition
Grand Slam- 4 oldest events this should be set in stone
Elite Series- Not Grand Slam worthy but exclusive
You can't scrap Q-School, there are international players who would come over for one block of events (or rather 2 blocks stuck together like they did this year), but you're not going to be able to get international players to commit to the Challenge Tour. Maybe give a few cards to the various international tours, but a) the standard is lower, I don't know how much it'd prepare them for life on tour, and b) there'd be plenty of players turning down cards.

I like the fact that there's a qualifying event for every region on the planet, so what if some of them are weaker, it's not like Portela and Kumar embarrass themselves on stage every year. Get rid of the women's qualifiers though, no reason they can't compete on a level playing field

I wouldn't do double start at the Grand Prix, the whole idea of it is that it's an unfamiliar format, to let them get used to it would go against the spirit of the event imo

I think the thing is now with amateur qualifiers that the rewards are higher than ever, and as such, pretty much anyone who's anyone in the semi-pro side of things has at least tried their hand in some sort of PDC event, we're not going to get many fairytale pub players making it now

The World Series definitely needs more of an international flavour, it was a bit farcical that there were no non-Europeans this year, scrap home invites and give it to the best local players from the tour events (not really possible this year but you get what I mean!)). I'd also do something similar to what they did with the Grand Slam this year, give international spots to the leaders of regional/secondary tours and fuck off the floor qualifier

You can't exclude players who have been relegated, unlike the football PL, the darts PL is only over a relatively small number of games, if a relegated player wins a TV event, or even multiple TV events, you can't let a poor run at the start of the year overshadow that. Masters is fine as it is, though what I'd do is name the last PL player until after it's finished, a great way to add interest to what is basically the Community Shield of darts

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Post by TheMalteseDart » Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:37 pm

Yeah I disagree with getting rid of certain international qualifier spots in the Worlds, in replace of pro tour players, if a pro tour player can't make it through in the first place they dont deserve to be there

It's called the 'World Championship' as it incorporates players from around the world, the same with the football world cup where you have teams like Panama and Saudi Arabia qualifying, if they just scrapped it for the best 32 teams in the world, it'd just be a Europe/South America cup

Agree Matchplay and UK Open are perfect, double start pro tours not needed in my opinion, but wouldn't hate it

I love Q School personally, and the idea that whilst you can get well known names turn up and win a card the idea that a complete unknown who's only ever practiced in his bedroom and can compete for a card is intriguing and a good thing about darts that it's designed to be the sport for the everyman. It's also fun to follow, yeah it's hard but i don't think anyone that's not got a card yet is a huge loss for the tour and there's loads of opportunities even when you don't get through Q School with the challenge tour

Grand Slam quota needs to be filled with pro tour winners, and if there's any spare then you have a qualifier, 8 qualifiers when pro tour players coulda got the spot is wrong, I think it's fine that it's ranked though even with 'invite' spots

Premier League is boring but I agree not sure how you can change it
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Post by sennafan24 » Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:02 pm

Can't believe I am going to type this, but I agree with Oche that the World Cup should be doubles only.

And that the Grand Prix, UK Open, Worlds and Matchplay combined should be darts' equivalent of snooker's triple crown.
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Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:35 pm

oche balboa wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:53 pm What i would do....Sure rip it to pieces if you like

I Would Scrap Q School, Sure I am in the minority with this and i still believe its a lottery. But I don't think 4 days of action is enough to be worthy of a card, I would like to see the Challenge Tour be expanded and the cards offered to the top 10 with others offered in Overseas players, Ladies Series (Top 2) & Maybe another couple for youth yours. Challenge Tour is open to everyone and with no Q School its the only way


TV Tournaments

1) World Championship (Nothing wrong with this in reality some overseas spots i would get rid of India for example and have more for the Pro Tour but its only minor changes. The question of it being "Harder" is a good call but you cant do that now 96 is enough and it should stay at that number its harder to qualify for the WMP

2) World Matchplay- As it is a flawless tournament IMO

3) World Grand Prix- Have a couple of Pro Tours before it to be double start.

4) UK Open- Would keep it is, The Balance is fine. Would like to see more "Amateur" players getting through rileys qualifiers but its a right tournament

5) World Series of Darts Qualifier

- Top 8 in World Series OOM
- 2 Pro tour qualifiers
- 2 From Baltic
- 2 from CDC
- 2 from EADC
- 2 From Asia
- 2 From Ocenia
- 4 not qualified from the list

This would be a better "World" status for the event.


6) European Championship- Fine as it is.

6a) Euro Tour events. Germany x2, Holland x2, Belgium, France, Hungary, Czech Republic, Denmark, Italy, Austria, Portugal, 1x Nordic

7) World Series of Darts

Its to promote all countries but would try and go to China, Japan, USA more

8) World Cup of Darts

Make it Doubles only.

9) Players Championship

64 players is fine. A good tournament feauring the best on the Pro Tour

10) Premier League

I dont think you can change it, Anything else would be confusing but players who are "Relegated" are disqualified from playing in the competition next year.

11) The Masters

Would like to see this changed from 24 to 32 players in the OOM. 1 vs 32. Ensure more reward for being into the top 32


12) Grand Slam of Darts

Will put that in a different post zzzzzz


MAJOR DEBATE

Into 3 sections


Showcase- Premier League, World Series of Darts (Finals), Grand Slam of Darts
The PDC Grand Slam - Worlds, Matchplay, Grand Prix, UK Open
PDC Elite Series- European Championship, Players, World Cup of Darts, PDC Masters


Showcase- Is invited players which the above 3 would be. Worlds can do this BUT its the elite competition
Grand Slam- 4 oldest events this should be set in stone
Elite Series- Not Grand Slam worthy but exclusive
Some good points, however it is very harsh to say any player who is relegated in the PL cannot be in it the following year. What if said player then went onto win a few majors after being eliminated from the PL ?
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Post by Dfc180 » Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:54 pm

How about they don't call it relegation and just elimination instead

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Post by The Ginge Reaper » Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:06 pm

Disqualified from playing in it 🤣🤣🤣 what if Wright finishes bottom in 2022 and then wins then 2023 Worlds? Hmm?
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Re: If you ran the pdc.....

Post by oche balboa » Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:46 pm

The Ginge Reaper wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:06 pm Disqualified from playing in it 🤣🤣🤣 what if Wright finishes bottom in 2022 and then wins then 2023 Worlds? Hmm?
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Post by oche balboa » Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:46 pm

Fair enough about the Premier League
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oche balboa wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:46 pm Fair enough about the Premier League
What color of your half eaten crayons did you use to write up all that shite?

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At least restrict the youth events to youths
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Randall wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:52 am At least restrict the youth events to youths
This. It should be under 18s
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HalloweenJack wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:15 am
Randall wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:52 am At least restrict the youth events to youths
This. It should be under 18s
Why do you people yes YOU PEOPLE always approach it from that direction?

Why not just change the name of one tournament? World Development Championship?

So this was a question for anyone whose only response to the arguably important topic of how the game develops its players is to go 'ha ha youth' for a couple of weeks every November.
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Rogg wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:20 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:15 am
Randall wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:52 am At least restrict the youth events to youths
This. It should be under 18s
Why do you people yes YOU PEOPLE always approach it from that direction?

Why not just change the name of one tournament? World Development Championship?

So this was a question for anyone whose only response to the arguably important topic of how the game develops its players is to go 'ha ha youth' for a couple of weeks every November.
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HalloweenJack wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:15 am
Randall wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:52 am At least restrict the youth events to youths
This. It should be under 18s
For all the stuff the pdc get right this is a glaringly obvious mistake
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Post by Malanax » Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:13 pm

Is 19 really not a youth in a sport where people aged 55-60 can easy compete at the highest level?

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Malanax wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:13 pm Is 19 really not a youth in a sport where people aged 55-60 can easy compete at the highest level?
Some players were beating the best in the world when they were teenagers, some had hardly picked up a dart, and some took even longer to get into darts seriously. It's the same in any sport really, you can play for the U21s in football up to the age of 23, sometimes you get world class players, sometimes you get kids who have hardly any senior experience to speak of, on a similar note, I wouldn't want to punish Kevin Doets because Callan Rydz developed quicker than him
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Post by The Thorn » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:45 pm

Dart players aint athletes ffs. How they gon play darts when they npt even allowed in pubs cause of they too young. Live and let live
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Post by thegentle » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:52 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:15 am
Randall wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:52 am At least restrict the youth events to youths
This. It should be under 18s
They already have an under 18s tour/championship, and it's called the JDC, as the only fan of Leighton Bennett on here I thought you'd have known that!
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thegentle wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:52 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:15 am
Randall wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:52 am At least restrict the youth events to youths
This. It should be under 18s
They already have an under 18s tour/championship, and it's called the JDC, as the only fan of Leighton Bennett on here I thought you'd have known that!
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