The Darts Forum

vizIIsto wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:03 am I'm surprised Warriner hasn't been mentioned in any of these polls at all.
Imo beats the other Iceman.

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:32 am Good to see a vote for Leighton

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:36 am

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:32 am Good to see a vote for Leighton

Really??

Safc wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:35 pm Seriously I don't like Cross but ge is achieved more than Harrington

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:32 am Adams and dulla in the top 16 would be amusing
Unbelievable but amusing

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:46 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:32 am Adams and dulla in the top 16 would be amusing
Unbelievable but amusing

Headshaker is the only darts player as overrated as those two.

Duzza should have been ranked above Spineless btw. I don't see an argument for rating Adams above Duzza at this time.

Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:59 am

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:46 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:32 am Adams and dulla in the top 16 would be amusing
Unbelievable but amusing

Headshaker is the only darts player as overrated as those two.

Duzza should have been ranked above Spineless btw. I don't see an argument for rating Adams above Duzza at this time.

The argument would be that he won Lakeside 3 times when it was less of a joke than when Duzza won his 3, and also acquitted himself well in the PDC Events he played in the early 2000s.

I voted for Cross here BTW.

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:24 am

Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:59 am

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:46 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:32 am Adams and dulla in the top 16 would be amusing
Unbelievable but amusing

Headshaker is the only darts player as overrated as those two.

Duzza should have been ranked above Spineless btw. I don't see an argument for rating Adams above Duzza at this time.

The argument would be that he won Lakeside 3 times when it was less of a joke than when Duzza won his 3, and also acquitted himself well in the PDC Events he played in the early 2000s.

I voted for Cross here BTW.

1. It's a myth that Lakeside was less of a joke when Adams won it. Lakeside 2011 was one of the worst major darts events ever shown on TV. The 2010 version wasn't much better either. Even the 2007 version, while heavy on names, had a very weak standard, just look at the bottom half of the draw from round 2 onward.

2. His PDC run in the early 2000s was nothing out of the ordinary, especially when you consider how he fared against the PDC's top dogs of that era. Granted, he beat Warriner and Manley, but he lost to Taylor, Burgess, and an ancient version of John Lowe.

3. Duzza at least has some decent wins in over MVG and Wright in TV majors. When did Adams ever beat say Taylor or RVB in a major TV event? Never, unless you count the 2000 Zuiderduin Masters as such. Beyond that, Barney always beat him at Lakeside, the Masters, WDT, and the IDL, whereas Taylor beat him handily at the Matchplay, NOTW, and WDT.

Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:37 am

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:24 am

Captain Hobo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:59 am

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:46 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:32 am Adams and dulla in the top 16 would be amusing
Unbelievable but amusing

Headshaker is the only darts player as overrated as those two.

Duzza should have been ranked above Spineless btw. I don't see an argument for rating Adams above Duzza at this time.

The argument would be that he won Lakeside 3 times when it was less of a joke than when Duzza won his 3, and also acquitted himself well in the PDC Events he played in the early 2000s.

I voted for Cross here BTW.

1. It's a myth that Lakeside was less of a joke when Adams won it. Lakeside 2011 was one of the worst major darts events ever shown on TV. The 2010 version wasn't much better either. Even the 2007 version, while heavy on names, had a very weak standard, just look at the bottom half of the draw from round 2 onward.

2. His PDC run in the early 2000s was nothing out of the ordinary, especially when you consider how he fared against the PDC's top dogs of that era. Granted, he beat Warriner and Manley, but he lost to Taylor, Burgess, and an ancient version of John Lowe.

3. Duzza at least has some decent wins in over MVG and Wright in TV majors. When did Adams ever beat say Taylor or RVB in a major TV event? Never, unless you count the 2000 Zuiderduin Masters as such. Beyond that, Barney always beat him at Lakeside, the Masters, WDT, and the IDL, whereas Taylor beat him handily at the Matchplay, NOTW, and WDT.

I didn't really watch much of Lakeside until about 2013, so saw very little of Adams wins. However the fields certainly had more depth than Duzza's.

The version of MvG that Duzza has beaten is nothing compared to Taylor so I really don't think that is relevant.

Even with the PL win, I think you can make a case Adams is still ahead of Duzza in overall career achievements.

I voted Cross the last 2 times and would have him and Harrington at least ahead of both of them, maybe even Rees as well.