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Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:20 pm
by PT13
I had the World Grand Prix higher until they diluted the format in 2014.

Michael van Gerwen has the Premier League second. I wonder why? ;)

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:23 pm
by Safc
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:13 pm The PL is shite
+1

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:18 pm
by tungsten tossers
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:20 pm I had the World Grand Prix higher until they diluted the format in 2014.

Michael van Gerwen has the Premier League second. I wonder why? ;)
He has said in interviews that he finds beating the top players week in week out, a tougher event that the Matchplay...
I think the £250k prize may have something to do with it also :D

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:20 pm
by Ross, Bob
tungsten tossers wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:18 pm
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:20 pm I had the World Grand Prix higher until they diluted the format in 2014.

Michael van Gerwen has the Premier League second. I wonder why? ;)
He has said in interviews that he finds beating the top players week in week out, a tougher event that the Matchplay...
I think the £250k prize may have something to do with it also :D
Premier League = different counties / places = a greater variety of prostitutes.

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:58 pm
by The Thorn
Ross, Bob wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:20 pm
tungsten tossers wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:18 pm
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:20 pm I had the World Grand Prix higher until they diluted the format in 2014.

Michael van Gerwen has the Premier League second. I wonder why? ;)
He has said in interviews that he finds beating the top players week in week out, a tougher event that the Matchplay...
I think the £250k prize may have something to do with it also :D
Premier League = different counties / places = a greater variety of prostitutes.
I heard he likes the ones in Thailand

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm
by HalloweenJack
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:03 pm For me, the big 5 are World Championship, World Matchplay, Premier League, Grand Slam of Darts and World Grand Prix. UK Open is sixth.
Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:21 pm
by HalloweenJack
sennafan24 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:00 am I love this thread.

Simply because I only consider these 4 events to be PDC majors.
‘Insightful’

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:29 pm
by The Thorn
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:03 pm For me, the big 5 are World Championship, World Matchplay, Premier League, Grand Slam of Darts and World Grand Prix. UK Open is sixth.
Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.
Always nice to read your own opinions mate

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:31 pm
by HalloweenJack
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:29 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:03 pm For me, the big 5 are World Championship, World Matchplay, Premier League, Grand Slam of Darts and World Grand Prix. UK Open is sixth.
Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.
Always nice to read your own opinions mate
And the opinions of the people who matter, the PDC. If a handful of contrarians on here disagree, who am I to say otherwise.

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:33 pm
by The Thorn
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:31 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:29 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:03 pm For me, the big 5 are World Championship, World Matchplay, Premier League, Grand Slam of Darts and World Grand Prix. UK Open is sixth.
Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.
Always nice to read your own opinions mate
And the opinions of the people who matter, the PDC. If a handful of contrarians on here disagree, who am I to say otherwise.
Why are you on here then? We all know that crap, we don't need someone to state it at every opportunity

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:37 pm
by HalloweenJack
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:33 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:31 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:29 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:03 pm For me, the big 5 are World Championship, World Matchplay, Premier League, Grand Slam of Darts and World Grand Prix. UK Open is sixth.
Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.
Always nice to read your own opinions mate
And the opinions of the people who matter, the PDC. If a handful of contrarians on here disagree, who am I to say otherwise.
Why are you on here then? We all know that crap, we don't need someone to state it at every opportunity
Why? Because a few in here see it differently? I’ve seen a post on a previous page whereby safc states he would rather watch a pc event or Euro event to the PL, which is fair enough as that’s his choice, he then states there is more meaningful at stake?? Really? I mean do you think there is one single player who plays in the PDC that would agree with that? Yes there might be oom money but it’s ££££££ that count .

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:40 pm
by The Thorn
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:37 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:33 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:31 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:29 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm

Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.
Always nice to read your own opinions mate
And the opinions of the people who matter, the PDC. If a handful of contrarians on here disagree, who am I to say otherwise.
Why are you on here then? We all know that crap, we don't need someone to state it at every opportunity
Why? Because a few in here see it differently? I’ve seen a post on a previous page whereby safc states he would rather watch a pc event or Euro event to the PL, which is fair enough as that’s his choice, he then states it is more meaningful?? Really? I mean do you think there is one single player who plays in the PDC that would agree with that?
At least it's his own opinion whether I agree or not. You keep on repeating the same stuff that's not even your own opinion. We are all aware what the PDC's stance is, no need for anyone to remind us.

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:43 pm
by HalloweenJack
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:40 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:37 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:33 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:31 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:29 pm

Always nice to read your own opinions mate
And the opinions of the people who matter, the PDC. If a handful of contrarians on here disagree, who am I to say otherwise.
Why are you on here then? We all know that crap, we don't need someone to state it at every opportunity
Why? Because a few in here see it differently? I’ve seen a post on a previous page whereby safc states he would rather watch a pc event or Euro event to the PL, which is fair enough as that’s his choice, he then states it is more meaningful?? Really? I mean do you think there is one single player who plays in the PDC that would agree with that?
At least it's his own opinion whether I agree or not. You keep on repeating the same stuff that's not even your own opinion. We are all aware what the PDC's stance is, no need for anyone to remind us.
It is my opinion though. I’ve said before ( more than once) the top 5 events are in my opinion,

Worlds
Matchplay
PL
Grand Prix
GSOD

U.K. open would be 6th.

As for safc he is fully entitled to his opinion as are you and anyone else. I didn’t agree with the meaningful part.

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:47 pm
by HalloweenJack
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:43 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:40 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:37 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:33 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:31 pm

And the opinions of the people who matter, the PDC. If a handful of contrarians on here disagree, who am I to say otherwise.
Why are you on here then? We all know that crap, we don't need someone to state it at every opportunity
Why? Because a few in here see it differently? I’ve seen a post on a previous page whereby safc states he would rather watch a pc event or Euro event to the PL, which is fair enough as that’s his choice, he then states it is more meaningful?? Really? I mean do you think there is one single player who plays in the PDC that would agree with that?
At least it's his own opinion whether I agree or not. You keep on repeating the same stuff that's not even your own opinion. We are all aware what the PDC's stance is, no need for anyone to remind us.
It is my opinion though. I’ve said before ( more than once) the top 5 events are, in my opinion,

Worlds
Matchplay
PL
Grand Prix
GSOD

U.K. open would be 6th.

As for safc he is fully entitled to his opinion as are you and anyone else. I didn’t agree with the meaningful part.

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:48 pm
by Jimmi
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:03 pm For me, the big 5 are World Championship, World Matchplay, Premier League, Grand Slam of Darts and World Grand Prix. UK Open is sixth.
Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.
Not having the Grand Slam.
I’ve said countless times that it shouldn’t be considered above other tournaments because it wasn’t always a ranking event.

Yes, I know the PL isn’t.
But that is the best of the best going against each other every week.

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:50 pm
by The Thorn
Jimmi wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:48 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:03 pm For me, the big 5 are World Championship, World Matchplay, Premier League, Grand Slam of Darts and World Grand Prix. UK Open is sixth.
Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.
Not having the Grand Slam.
I’ve said countless times that it shouldn’t be considered above other tournaments because it wasn’t always a ranking event.

Yes, I know the PL isn’t.
But that is the best of the best going against each other every week.
I think that's utter bullshit. But fair enough.

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:53 pm
by Jimmi
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:50 pm
Jimmi wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:48 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:03 pm For me, the big 5 are World Championship, World Matchplay, Premier League, Grand Slam of Darts and World Grand Prix. UK Open is sixth.
Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.
Not having the Grand Slam.
I’ve said countless times that it shouldn’t be considered above other tournaments because it wasn’t always a ranking event.

Yes, I know the PL isn’t.
But that is the best of the best going against each other every week.
I think that's utter bullshit. But fair enough.
:lol:

I do actually like the Grand Slam.
But with it not being a ranking event until a few years ago, then it remains below the oldest 4 events for me.

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:58 pm
by The Thorn
Jimmi wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:53 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:50 pm
Jimmi wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:48 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:03 pm For me, the big 5 are World Championship, World Matchplay, Premier League, Grand Slam of Darts and World Grand Prix. UK Open is sixth.
Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.
Not having the Grand Slam.
I’ve said countless times that it shouldn’t be considered above other tournaments because it wasn’t always a ranking event.

Yes, I know the PL isn’t.
But that is the best of the best going against each other every week.
I think that's utter bullshit. But fair enough.
:lol:

I do actually like the Grand Slam.
But with it not being a ranking event until a few years ago, then it remains below the oldest 4 events for me.
I can't put a 3 day event above a week long one. UK Open might have a richer history (even that's arguable because I think the Grand Slam has been the more significant event for a while), but in the present the GS is surely a bigger event.

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:00 pm
by HalloweenJack
Jimmi wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:53 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:50 pm
Jimmi wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:48 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm
PT13 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:03 pm For me, the big 5 are World Championship, World Matchplay, Premier League, Grand Slam of Darts and World Grand Prix. UK Open is sixth.
Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.
Not having the Grand Slam.
I’ve said countless times that it shouldn’t be considered above other tournaments because it wasn’t always a ranking event.

Yes, I know the PL isn’t.
But that is the best of the best going against each other every week.
I think that's utter bullshit. But fair enough.
:lol:

I do actually like the Grand Slam.
But with it not being a ranking event until a few years ago, then it remains below the oldest 4 events for me.
I think the fact it is the only cross code event makes it unique and initially at least some of the BDO players did well and progressed to the latter stages. I personally prefer the GSOD and the U.K. open to the PL and Matchplay. The GSOD is one event I’d like to attend and next year it’s likely I will. I’ve been to numerous PL nights in Sheffield and I think it’s fair to say you get quite a few ‘casual fans’ attending although a few aren’t even bothered about watching the darts.

Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:01 pm
by Jimmi
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:58 pm
Jimmi wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:53 pm
The Thorn wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:50 pm
Jimmi wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:48 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:19 pm

Absolutely bang on. That is how the PDC will see it.
Not having the Grand Slam.
I’ve said countless times that it shouldn’t be considered above other tournaments because it wasn’t always a ranking event.

Yes, I know the PL isn’t.
But that is the best of the best going against each other every week.
I think that's utter bullshit. But fair enough.
:lol:

I do actually like the Grand Slam.
But with it not being a ranking event until a few years ago, then it remains below the oldest 4 events for me.
I can't put a 3 day event above a week long one. UK Open might have a richer history (even that's arguable because I think the Grand Slam has been the more significant event for a while), but in the present the GS is surely a bigger event.
We’ll agree to disagree.