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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:24 am

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Post by Jimmi » Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:28 am

A part of me still thinks that Fury was fannying about on purpose for his fight against Ngannou, and that no matter what he was always going to win by decision, to help build hype for the fight last night and to buy into the hype surrounding a potential Fury - Joshua fight again because that lost pretty much all momentum when Joshua got beat by Ruiz and then fell off a cliff when Joshua got beat by Usyk twice

I hope Fury beats Usyk because nobody wants Usyk - Joshua 3
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Post by Randall » Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:17 am

The winner of fury v usyk has no credible fight other than Joshua, maybe parker
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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:24 am

Just seen the highlights
1st knockdown didn't seem like much of a shot
Ngannou just kept dropping his left hand and wandered forward
Not great tactics
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Re: Boxing

Post by tungsten tossers » Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:26 am

Randall wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:17 am The winner of fury v usyk has no credible fight other than Joshua, maybe parker
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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:28 am

tungsten tossers wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:26 am
Randall wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:17 am The winner of fury v usyk has no credible fight other than Joshua, maybe parker
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Post by sennafan24 » Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:30 pm

Randall wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:24 am Just seen the highlights
1st knockdown didn't seem like much of a shot
Ngannou just kept dropping his left hand and wandered forward
Not great tactics
Ngannou briefly switched southpaw. Joshua was prepared and clocked him with a straight right.

Joshua is quite comfortable with southpaws (Usyk aside).
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Post by TheMalteseDart » Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:33 pm

Jimmi wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:28 am A part of me still thinks that Fury was fannying about on purpose for his fight against Ngannou, and that no matter what he was always going to win by decision, to help build hype for the fight last night and to buy into the hype surrounding a potential Fury - Joshua fight again because that lost pretty much all momentum when Joshua got beat by Ruiz and then fell off a cliff when Joshua got beat by Usyk twice

I hope Fury beats Usyk because nobody wants Usyk - Joshua 3
He might have come into it with a lack of focus by his standards but there’s no way he fucked around on purpose, he even got dropped, it was a really bad performance and now looks even more concerning after the way Joshua dealt with Ngannou last night. It could be as simple as Fury has lost his spark now and maybe Usyk just outboxes him
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Post by The Thorn » Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:20 pm

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Re: Boxing

Post by Randall » Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:34 am

The goat with little room for debate
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Post by HalloweenJack » Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:38 am

Randall wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:34 am The goat with little room for debate
He is certainly up there.
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Post by sennafan24 » Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:06 pm

Randall wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:34 am The goat with little room for debate
Some historians/researchers think it's Greb.

Duran at his peak is the most skilled (best) I've seen footage of.

Robinson is a contender in both categories though. I should probably make the effort to watch more footage of his.
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Post by sennafan24 » Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:08 pm

And before HJ chimes in.

No, Tyson Fury isn't a serious contender for best or greatest of all-time. He's not even close to either in his weightclass.
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:13 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:08 pm And before HJ chimes in.

No, Tyson Fury isn't a serious contender for best or greatest of all-time. He's not even close to either in his weightclass.
He thinks he is and self confidence is very important 🙂
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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:20 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:13 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:08 pm And before HJ chimes in.

No, Tyson Fury isn't a serious contender for best or greatest of all-time. He's not even close to either in his weightclass.
He thinks he is and self confidence is very important 🙂
Fury isn't close to Ali, Louis or Lennox in terms of greatness.

Surely even you can admit that.
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:28 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:20 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:13 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:08 pm And before HJ chimes in.

No, Tyson Fury isn't a serious contender for best or greatest of all-time. He's not even close to either in his weightclass.
He thinks he is and self confidence is very important 🙂
Fury isn't close to Ali, Louis or Lennox in terms of greatness.

Surely even you can admit that.
Where have I stated he is ?
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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:59 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:28 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:20 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:13 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:08 pm And before HJ chimes in.

No, Tyson Fury isn't a serious contender for best or greatest of all-time. He's not even close to either in his weightclass.
He thinks he is and self confidence is very important 🙂
Fury isn't close to Ali, Louis or Lennox in terms of greatness.

Surely even you can admit that.
Where have I stated he is ?
You haven't directly.

But you appear reluctant to admit that his record/achievements and probably his skill are both lacking compared to certain past heavyweight.
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:46 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:59 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:28 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:20 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:13 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:08 pm And before HJ chimes in.

No, Tyson Fury isn't a serious contender for best or greatest of all-time. He's not even close to either in his weightclass.
He thinks he is and self confidence is very important 🙂
Fury isn't close to Ali, Louis or Lennox in terms of greatness.

Surely even you can admit that.
Where have I stated he is ?
You haven't directly.

But you appear reluctant to admit that his record/achievements and probably his skill are both lacking compared to certain past heavyweight.
I think his skill set for a big man is excellent. If he beats Usyk and AJ he would be high up on any all time great list whether you agree or not.
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Re: Boxing

Post by sennafan24 » Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:56 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:46 pm I think his skill set for a big man is excellent. If he beats Usyk and AJ he would be high up on any all time great list whether you agree or not.
1. I haven't claimed otherwise. There are multiple past heavyweights I'd pick to beat him head 2 head though (Ali, Lewis, etc).

2. If he beat Usyk he would probably be top 10, but still nowhere near the top 3.
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Re: Boxing

Post by HalloweenJack » Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:30 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:56 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:46 pm I think his skill set for a big man is excellent. If he beats Usyk and AJ he would be high up on any all time great list whether you agree or not.
1. I haven't claimed otherwise. There are multiple past heavyweights I'd pick to beat him head 2 head though (Ali, Lewis, etc).

2. If he beat Usyk he would probably be top 10, but still nowhere near the top 3.
I think you are looking for a row or trolling 🤣
I’m not disputing anything you have said.
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