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The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:45 pm
by M H
Some interesting stuff coming out now!
Mr Cameron says newspapers reported false allegation about the behaviour of fans. He says the report finds flaws in the police operation and new evidence that the police carried out checks on those who had died in order to "impune their reputations".
The PM says the report is "black and white" in concluding "Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster".
Any comments anyone?
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:47 pm
by Randall
1245: PM: The panel found that 164 statements were "significantly amended", including the removal of 116 negative comments about the leadership of the police, to push the blame for the tragedy onto the fans.
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:51 pm
by Randall
the suns going to have some apologising to do now.
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:52 pm
by M H
There's gonna be loads making apologies after this
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:54 pm
by hang the dj
Darth Randall wrote:the suns going to have some apologising to do now.
No point, nobody in Liverpool buys it
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:54 pm
by Randall
BREAKING NEWS The report states that some individuals who died at Hillsborough could have had reservable asphyxia. It says it is highly likely what happened after 15:15 BST was "significant in determining how they died".
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:58 pm
by Randall
its also sad that the idiots in parliament can only behave like adults at times such as this.
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:59 pm
by M H
More from the report. The original pathologists evidence of a single unvarying pattern of death is unsustainable. It led to mistaken belief that an effective emergency services response could not have saved lives. South Yorkshire polce emphasised exceptional levels of drunkenness and aggression among fans. Beyond police accounts there is no substantive evidence to support this.
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:02 pm
by Randall
the original inquest verdict will be overturned by the attourney general.
possibly leading to prosecutions of those who covered up the truth.
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:11 pm
by Randall
The report states a similar "near disaster" event could have happen at Hillsborough in 1981, and subsequent ground modifications actually increased dangers. There were further problems in 1987 and 1988. Ultimately, the risks were known and tragedy was forseeable
good grief.
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:14 pm
by Grazer
Its making shocking reading but the truth is finally coming to light
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:16 pm
by M H
In a nutshell:
The fans weren't overly pissed.
They didn't steal from the dead and piss on coppers.
They weren't ticketless.
They weren't responsible for the deaths.
Have I got it right?
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:18 pm
by Grazer
M H wrote:In a nutshell:
The fans weren't overly pissed.
They didn't steal from the dead and piss on coppers.
They weren't ticketless.
They weren't responsible for the deaths.
Have I got it right?
Think that covers the major points
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:19 pm
by Randall
the failiure of the justice system to unearth all this at the time is even more damning.
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:20 pm
by M H
And all this information has been traduced from government files and documents, yet there doesn't appear to have been a cover up. How odd
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:25 pm
by Grazer
M H wrote:And all this information has been traduced from government files and documents, yet there doesn't appear to have been a cover up. How odd
The only thing I can think of is that there are no documents or evidence that the government were part of the cover up actively like the police were.
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:27 pm
by Randall
the minutes from cabinet at the time were released to the satisfaction of the body reviewing the evidence.
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:02 pm
by Randall
this 3.15 cut off, when lives could have been saved is hard to understand or rationalise.
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:12 pm
by D & B
Re: The Hillsborough Report
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:13 pm
by Randall
nobody from the sun seems to be at the press call in liverpool.