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Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:34 pm
by Randall
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:29 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:18 pm
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:50 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:08 pm
Jimmi wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:11 pm People should be given Noa shit for being Trans
That’s just plain wrong

What is also wrong is people being labelled as “Transphobic” because they have a different opinion that doesn’t suit the narrative of Trans Women playing in female centric sporting events
The "progressive left" isn't interested in any hearing any other opinion but demand you accept theirs.
Because they are sick of bigots. Go back to the days of Mrs. Doubtfire, and it was gays and bisexuals that were being attacked by the bigots, with far less hostility to trans people. The targets of the bigots depend on which group the media focus on to attack in order to divide people. United we stand, divided we fall.
Grow up
Weird. Bigots are like bullies at school who never grow up.
Do you have any actual arguments or are you just going to post the same word over and again in the hope nobody will notice?
Your hero is a sex offender so I appreciate you will have no care for women but the rest of the population do.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:13 pm
by PT13
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:34 pm Do you have any actual arguments
The argument is never forget empathy with other human beings, while the bigots are busy dehumanizing their targets and seemingly not caring about the hate that their targets receive. When we point this out, they squeal about how unfair the left is, while never focusing their hate on the real targets, i.e. the big business profiteers and the capitalist system.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:23 pm
by Randall
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:13 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:34 pm Do you have any actual arguments
The argument is never forget empathy with other human beings, while the bigots are busy dehumanizing their targets and seemingly not caring about the hate that their targets receive. When we point this out, they squeal about how unfair the left is, while never focusing their hate on the real targets, i.e. the big business profiteers and the capitalist system.
And what about empathy for women?
Your position can be summarised in 1 of 2 ways
Anyone who doesn't agree with your narrow view of the world is either a bigot or has been brainwashed by the right wing media.
Both positions are ridiculous
Nobody here has expressed any bigoted views
Nobody here is "transphobic"
What people have expressed is concern for 50% of the population, ie women who are being pushed out of their rightful places, and concern for where this may end.
If a man wants to pretend he is a women in his private life go for it, just don't disadvantage women.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:26 pm
by PT13
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:23 pm
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:13 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:34 pm Do you have any actual arguments
The argument is never forget empathy with other human beings, while the bigots are busy dehumanizing their targets and seemingly not caring about the hate that their targets receive. When we point this out, they squeal about how unfair the left is, while never focusing their hate on the real targets, i.e. the big business profiteers and the capitalist system.
And what about empathy for women?
Your position can be summarised in 1 of 2 ways
Anyone who doesn't agree with your narrow view of the world is either a bigot or has been brainwashed by the right wing media.
Both positions are ridiculous
Nobody here has expressed any bigoted views
Nobody here is "transphobic"
What people have expressed is concern for 50% of the population, ie women who are being pushed out of their rightful places, and concern for where this may end.
If a man wants to pretend he is a women in his private life go for it, just don't disadvantage women.
Divide, divide, divide. That's what the right-wing are always about. The capitalist system always needs scapegoats.

I'm not going to apologize for being a left-wing person who pushes back against, and exposes, this right-wing shit.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:27 pm
by Randall
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:26 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:23 pm
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:13 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:34 pm Do you have any actual arguments
The argument is never forget empathy with other human beings, while the bigots are busy dehumanizing their targets and seemingly not caring about the hate that their targets receive. When we point this out, they squeal about how unfair the left is, while never focusing their hate on the real targets, i.e. the big business profiteers and the capitalist system.
And what about empathy for women?
Your position can be summarised in 1 of 2 ways
Anyone who doesn't agree with your narrow view of the world is either a bigot or has been brainwashed by the right wing media.
Both positions are ridiculous
Nobody here has expressed any bigoted views
Nobody here is "transphobic"
What people have expressed is concern for 50% of the population, ie women who are being pushed out of their rightful places, and concern for where this may end.
If a man wants to pretend he is a women in his private life go for it, just don't disadvantage women.
Divide, divide, divide. That's what the right-wing are always about. The capitalist system always needs scapegoats.
So you just have no argument and are just going to persist with this nonesense.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:37 pm
by PT13
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:27 pm
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:26 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:23 pm
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:13 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:34 pm Do you have any actual arguments
The argument is never forget empathy with other human beings, while the bigots are busy dehumanizing their targets and seemingly not caring about the hate that their targets receive. When we point this out, they squeal about how unfair the left is, while never focusing their hate on the real targets, i.e. the big business profiteers and the capitalist system.
And what about empathy for women?
Your position can be summarised in 1 of 2 ways
Anyone who doesn't agree with your narrow view of the world is either a bigot or has been brainwashed by the right wing media.
Both positions are ridiculous
Nobody here has expressed any bigoted views
Nobody here is "transphobic"
What people have expressed is concern for 50% of the population, ie women who are being pushed out of their rightful places, and concern for where this may end.
If a man wants to pretend he is a women in his private life go for it, just don't disadvantage women.
Divide, divide, divide. That's what the right-wing are always about. The capitalist system always needs scapegoats.
So you just have no argument and are just going to persist with this nonesense.
They don't care about women. That's a load of nonsense. How many Tory MPs have been involved in sex scandals? For decades, it's been said that Tory MPs have sex scandals and Labour MPs have money scandals.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:41 pm
by Randall
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:37 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:27 pm
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:26 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:23 pm
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:13 pm
The argument is never forget empathy with other human beings, while the bigots are busy dehumanizing their targets and seemingly not caring about the hate that their targets receive. When we point this out, they squeal about how unfair the left is, while never focusing their hate on the real targets, i.e. the big business profiteers and the capitalist system.
And what about empathy for women?
Your position can be summarised in 1 of 2 ways
Anyone who doesn't agree with your narrow view of the world is either a bigot or has been brainwashed by the right wing media.
Both positions are ridiculous
Nobody here has expressed any bigoted views
Nobody here is "transphobic"
What people have expressed is concern for 50% of the population, ie women who are being pushed out of their rightful places, and concern for where this may end.
If a man wants to pretend he is a women in his private life go for it, just don't disadvantage women.
Divide, divide, divide. That's what the right-wing are always about. The capitalist system always needs scapegoats.
So you just have no argument and are just going to persist with this nonesense.
They don't care about women. That's a load of nonsense. How many Tory MPs have been involved in sex scandals? For decades, it's been said that Tory MPs have sex scandals and Labour MPs have money scandals.
What has that got to do with anything I am attempting to discuss?

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:30 pm
by Greipel
I fully stand with Randall.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:33 pm
by Randall
It is the the left attacking women's rights not the right.
Let's keep that in view

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:35 pm
by daveboygreen
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:33 pm It is the the left attacking women's rights not the right.
Let's keep that in view
All you need now is a shoplifting trans to steal from your shop and you will implode!!

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:38 pm
by Randall
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:35 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:33 pm It is the the left attacking women's rights not the right.
Let's keep that in view
All you need now is a shoplifting trans to steal from your shop and you will implode!!
As it happens there is a lovely trans lady comes in every day shopping.
Always have a good natter with them and recommend books

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:39 pm
by daveboygreen
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:38 pm
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:35 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:33 pm It is the the left attacking women's rights not the right.
Let's keep that in view
All you need now is a shoplifting trans to steal from your shop and you will implode!!
As it happens there is a lovely trans lady comes in every day shopping.
Always have a good natter with them and recommend books
Have they stolen anything yet? Or are your attentions drawn elsewhere? :lol:

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:39 pm
by ChrisW
As long as they are not damaging women's rights its fine to do a bit of petty thieving.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:41 pm
by Randall
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:39 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:38 pm
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:35 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:33 pm It is the the left attacking women's rights not the right.
Let's keep that in view
All you need now is a shoplifting trans to steal from your shop and you will implode!!
As it happens there is a lovely trans lady comes in every day shopping.
Always have a good natter with them and recommend books
Have they stolen anything yet? Or are your attentions drawn elsewhere? :lol:
They stand for hours reading books but I've never caught them stealing
Apparently only has 1 outfit and doesn't smell nice but is largely harmless

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:45 pm
by daveboygreen
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:41 pm
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:39 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:38 pm
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:35 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:33 pm It is the the left attacking women's rights not the right.
Let's keep that in view
All you need now is a shoplifting trans to steal from your shop and you will implode!!
As it happens there is a lovely trans lady comes in every day shopping.
Always have a good natter with them and recommend books
Have they stolen anything yet? Or are your attentions drawn elsewhere? :lol:
They stand for hours reading books but I've never caught them stealing
Apparently only has 1 outfit and doesn't smell nice but is largely harmless
As far as im concerned, People can live their lives however they choose to as long as it does not affect me.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:48 pm
by Randall
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:45 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:41 pm
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:39 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:38 pm
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:35 pm

All you need now is a shoplifting trans to steal from your shop and you will implode!!
As it happens there is a lovely trans lady comes in every day shopping.
Always have a good natter with them and recommend books
Have they stolen anything yet? Or are your attentions drawn elsewhere? :lol:
They stand for hours reading books but I've never caught them stealing
Apparently only has 1 outfit and doesn't smell nice but is largely harmless
As far as im concerned, People can live their lives however they choose to as long as it does not affect me.
Society as a whole can't just turn a blind eye though.
Individuals certainly can.

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:48 pm
by tungsten tossers
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:45 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:41 pm
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:39 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:38 pm
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:35 pm

All you need now is a shoplifting trans to steal from your shop and you will implode!!
As it happens there is a lovely trans lady comes in every day shopping.
Always have a good natter with them and recommend books
Have they stolen anything yet? Or are your attentions drawn elsewhere? :lol:
They stand for hours reading books but I've never caught them stealing
Apparently only has 1 outfit and doesn't smell nice but is largely harmless
As far as im concerned, People can live their lives however they choose to as long as it does not affect me.
This 100%

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:50 pm
by Jimmi
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:11 pm
Jimmi wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:56 pm
Jimmi wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:11 pm People should be given Noa shit for being Trans
That’s just plain wrong

What is also wrong is people being labelled as “Transphobic” because they have a different opinion that doesn’t suit the narrative of Trans Women playing in female centric sporting events
That is meant to read shouldn’t*

Fucking phone!
There wasn't too much of a fuss in tennis in the mid-late 1970s when Richard Raskind transitioned and became Renée Richards. The worst that the bigots did back then was laugh at the notion of a man becoming a woman. Nowadays, they'd be saying "A disgrace! A man playing in a women's event" and start all the dehumanizing, lack of empathy agitation.
Saying Noa isn’t allowed to play in Women’s Events isn’t dehumanising her
Dehumanising Noa would be making transphobic comments towards Noa

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:52 pm
by Randall
Jimmi wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:50 pm
PT13 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:11 pm
Jimmi wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:56 pm
Jimmi wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:11 pm People should be given Noa shit for being Trans
That’s just plain wrong

What is also wrong is people being labelled as “Transphobic” because they have a different opinion that doesn’t suit the narrative of Trans Women playing in female centric sporting events
That is meant to read shouldn’t*

Fucking phone!
There wasn't too much of a fuss in tennis in the mid-late 1970s when Richard Raskind transitioned and became Renée Richards. The worst that the bigots did back then was laugh at the notion of a man becoming a woman. Nowadays, they'd be saying "A disgrace! A man playing in a women's event" and start all the dehumanizing, lack of empathy agitation.
Saying Noa isn’t allowed to play in Women’s Events isn’t dehumanising her
Dehumanising Noa would be making transphobic comments towards Noa
Or attacking them in a campervan

Re: Fallon Sherrock stands up for Noa-Lynn van Leuven

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:02 pm
by ChrisW
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:41 pm
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:39 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:38 pm
daveboygreen wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:35 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:33 pm It is the the left attacking women's rights not the right.
Let's keep that in view
All you need now is a shoplifting trans to steal from your shop and you will implode!!
As it happens there is a lovely trans lady comes in every day shopping.
Always have a good natter with them and recommend books
Have they stolen anything yet? Or are your attentions drawn elsewhere? :lol:
They stand for hours reading books but I've never caught them stealing
Apparently only has 1 outfit and doesn't smell nice but is largely harmless
Poor crossdresser only having one outfit. Please give kindly.