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Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:11 am
by Randall
whereisman wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:20 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:15 pm
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:03 pm Its over for the BDO......WDF is where its at but they need to get announcing
Announcing the announcement of an announcement?
Which is several weeks late presumably?
Like the prize money

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:55 am
by whereisman
Randall wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:11 am
whereisman wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:20 pm
Randall wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:15 pm
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:03 pm Its over for the BDO......WDF is where its at but they need to get announcing
Announcing the announcement of an announcement?
Which is several weeks late presumably?
Like the prize money
Sometimes that doesn't arrive at all...

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:13 pm
by Fiss Plaps
Twitter's darts stats nerds have got their teeth into the WDF ranking table, and well..



Oh dear.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:37 pm
by Greipel
Fiss Plaps wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:13 pm Twitter's darts stats nerds have got their teeth into the WDF ranking table, and well..



Oh dear.
It's an amateur organization tbf.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:43 pm
by thegentle
Greipel wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:37 pm
Fiss Plaps wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:13 pm Twitter's darts stats nerds have got their teeth into the WDF ranking table, and well..



Oh dear.
It's an amateur organization tbf.
Judging by what they've done with Oliver Ferenc, I could imagine they'll make the same mistake with plenty of Hungarians lol. Anyway, it's an amateur organisation, but that's down to the players, it doesn't mean they can't be just as well-run as the PDC minus the cash

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:44 pm
by Fiss Plaps
Greipel wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:37 pm
Fiss Plaps wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:13 pm Twitter's darts stats nerds have got their teeth into the WDF ranking table, and well..



Oh dear.
It's an amateur organization tbf.
That doesn't excuse mistakes like that though.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:46 pm
by SuperSwede
Greipel wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:37 pm
Fiss Plaps wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:13 pm Twitter's darts stats nerds have got their teeth into the WDF ranking table, and well..



Oh dear.
It's an amateur organization tbf.
There's a window of opportunity though and with the plans or at least intentions they have they should have their shit together better than this.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:49 pm
by Pigpen
Now that's the correct way to get extra names to put in a draw. :p

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:24 am
by SuperSwede
In a LiveDarts interview Mason said "the WDF will be re-negotiating the Eurosport deal"

I guess the prizemoney fiasco, the poor production and the no longer being recognised by the WDF would be more than enough grounds for Eurosport to terminate the deal with the BDO?

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:28 pm
by Zeyes
thegentle wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:43 pm Judging by what they've done with Oliver Ferenc, I could imagine they'll make the same mistake with plenty of Hungarians lol.
Probably lots of Asian players too, if they actually get more than a couple of ranking tournaments in the area again.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:56 pm
by whereisman
Looks like we'll still have some hilarity even if the BDO goes down judging by that ranking table.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:11 pm
by cannibal
SuperSwede wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:24 am In a LiveDarts interview Mason said "the WDF will be re-negotiating the Eurosport deal"

I guess the prizemoney fiasco, the poor production and the no longer being recognised by the WDF would be more than enough grounds for Eurosport to terminate the deal with the BDO?
Could you provide a link to that interview. That certainly is interesting if that is the case. Not an easy thing to do unless this is a trigger clause or buyout arrangement which I suspect there is. But that means someone our Both parties are going to be taking a loss.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:31 pm
by Fiss Plaps
cannibal wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:11 pm
SuperSwede wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:24 am In a LiveDarts interview Mason said "the WDF will be re-negotiating the Eurosport deal"

I guess the prizemoney fiasco, the poor production and the no longer being recognised by the WDF would be more than enough grounds for Eurosport to terminate the deal with the BDO?
Could you provide a link to that interview. That certainly is interesting if that is the case. Not an easy thing to do unless this is a trigger clause or buyout arrangement which I suspect there is. But that means someone our Both parties are going to be taking a loss.


I've not watched it myself so I don't know where exactly he says it.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:53 am
by SuperSwede
Fiss Plaps wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:31 pm
cannibal wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:11 pm
SuperSwede wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:24 am In a LiveDarts interview Mason said "the WDF will be re-negotiating the Eurosport deal"

I guess the prizemoney fiasco, the poor production and the no longer being recognised by the WDF would be more than enough grounds for Eurosport to terminate the deal with the BDO?
Could you provide a link to that interview. That certainly is interesting if that is the case. Not an easy thing to do unless this is a trigger clause or buyout arrangement which I suspect there is. But that means someone our Both parties are going to be taking a loss.


I've not watched it myself so I don't know where exactly he says it.
It was relatively early if I remember right, a throwaway remark neither elaborated on it. Then later in the video alluded to "we're in the know but can't say too much but it's looking good" when discussing the WDF plans.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:36 am
by Rogg
Fiss Plaps wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:44 pm
Greipel wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:37 pm
Fiss Plaps wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:13 pm Twitter's darts stats nerds have got their teeth into the WDF ranking table, and well..

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Oh dear.
It's an amateur organization tbf.
That doesn't excuse mistakes like that though.
That was a polite response! Bloody hell Greipel. That someone operates at an amateur level isn't a licence to do something badly.

Like the whole money thing. "We don't have the PDC's budget" was one of Pauly's favourite justifications for any number of laughable errors that a goldfish could have been trained to avoid.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:16 am
by Greipel
Rogg wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:36 am
Fiss Plaps wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:44 pm
Greipel wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:37 pm
Fiss Plaps wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:13 pm Twitter's darts stats nerds have got their teeth into the WDF ranking table, and well..

[tweet]

Oh dear.
It's an amateur organization tbf.
That doesn't excuse mistakes like that though.
That was a polite response! Bloody hell Greipel. That someone operates at an amateur level isn't a licence to do something badly.

Like the whole money thing. "We don't have the PDC's budget" was one of Pauly's favourite justifications for any number of laughable errors that a goldfish could have been trained to avoid.
Irony, mate.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:24 pm
by cannibal
Thanks for the link on that mason interview. Wouldn't be surprised if Eurosport tried to sever the BDO deal early. I believe I said that when this was announced.

If Mason is correct in that eurosport want to renegotiate the deal and do it with the WDF. Then eurosport will find the WDF no better in delivering a quality product. Neither org has the money or the players. WDF will make the events a wider representation of its members. That means less spots for better players and more places for who flung do from far away is stan. This includes the ladies. Fully expect the standard to take a flaming crash.

WDF for years have sat on their asses and they think they can jump in and right the ship? By what, tinkering with ranking point system. And flogging off the BDO. WDF obvious choice to fill the void but it is one thing to be next in line but what is the point if you cant do the job. And even worse your only plan is a rough outline written on a cocktail napkin.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:21 pm
by oche balboa
cannibal wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:24 pm Thanks for the link on that mason interview. Wouldn't be surprised if Eurosport tried to sever the BDO deal early. I believe I said that when this was announced.

If Mason is correct in that eurosport want to renegotiate the deal and do it with the WDF. Then eurosport will find the WDF no better in delivering a quality product. Neither org has the money or the players. WDF will make the events a wider representation of its members. That means less spots for better players and more places for who flung do from far away is stan. This includes the ladies. Fully expect the standard to take a flaming crash.

WDF for years have sat on their asses and they think they can jump in and right the ship? By what, tinkering with ranking point system. And flogging off the BDO. WDF obvious choice to fill the void but it is one thing to be next in line but what is the point if you cant do the job. And even worse your only plan is a rough outline written on a cocktail napkin.
WDF (If backed by the PDC) will offer better productions. Yes the players arent going to be the same standard but we all know its Semi-Pro/Amateur/Recreational Darts.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:22 pm
by cannibal
Where is this idea coming from that the PDC is going to financially back the WDF? Hearn said they would give advice. Don't recall him saying they would give money.

Re: WDF Announcement of New Ranking Criteria (So Long BDO?/Randall is a senile old tosser)

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:45 pm
by oche balboa
cannibal wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:22 pm Where is this idea coming from that the PDC is going to financially back the WDF? Hearn said they would give advice. Don't recall him saying they would give money.
Where did i mention money?