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StevieBoy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:27 am Many 'young' players have shown potential over the years just look where Hubbard is now 'pushing trolleys for Tesco's?'

adams was the best player in the world from 2007 to 2011 - only maybe taylor was his equal - hed be top 3 in the pdc - an old adams won all 3 groups games at the gsod on pdc turf - hes in the top 5 ever with lowe taylor bristow and durrant - part is just behind with barney -

robson

Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:37 pm Old pal robson still driving the brutally humourless inmates round the bend on digispy.

adams was the best player in the world from 2007 to 2011 - only maybe taylor was his equal - hed be top 3 in the pdc - an old adams won all 3 groups games at the gsod on pdc turf - hes in the top 5 ever with lowe taylor bristow and durrant - part is just behind with barney -

robson

Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:37 pm Old pal robson still driving the brutally humourless inmates round the bend on digispy.

adams was the best player in the world from 2007 to 2011 - only maybe taylor was his equal - hed be top 3 in the pdc - an old adams won all 3 groups games at the gsod on pdc turf - hes in the top 5 ever with lowe taylor bristow and durrant - part is just behind with barney -

robson

D & B wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:29 pm Sounds like a work shy, dole scum Pygmy.

how about an honoutable mention for jackie - hes what we need - a proper darts fan - that lad loves lakeside darts - i bet if we all went to lakey this evening and turned the light on - hed jump out and surpises us - instead of slagging of the bdo duzza and dbg - lets have a bit of positivity - to jackie -

robson

John Boy Walton is the most underrated sportsman of this century - saddled up to lakey 2001 - and won the whole thing - back when lakeside was at its best - and darts was at its best - most compeitive fields and played with the best of order on regulation boards - hed have beaten taylor and any of the circus lads that week -

robson

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:42 pm Aye.

My theory is that Thorn kept a log of the worst statements made by Oche, IFM, Fandarts and other shrooms. Hence "Jobson" was born

M H wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:55 pm

StevieBoy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:27 am Many 'young' players have shown potential over the years just look where Hubbard is now 'pushing trolleys for Tesco's?'

I remember tipping Hubbard for great things, that went well!

M H wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:56 pm

Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:37 pm Old pal robson still driving the brutally humourless inmates round the bend on digispy.

adams was the best player in the world from 2007 to 2011 - only maybe taylor was his equal - hed be top 3 in the pdc - an old adams won all 3 groups games at the gsod on pdc turf - hes in the top 5 ever with lowe taylor bristow and durrant - part is just behind with barney -

robson

Oh dear

PT13 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:24 am

M H wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:55 pm

StevieBoy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:27 am Many 'young' players have shown potential over the years just look where Hubbard is now 'pushing trolleys for Tesco's?'

I remember tipping Hubbard for great things, that went well!

I thought James Hubbard completely smashed Michael van Gerwen in the 2012 World Youth final in May 2012, more than the scoreline suggests. That was the very last time that we saw the struggling van Gerwen of 2008-2011 that had issues with his form. Van Gerwen was already slowly on the rise in the 6-7 months or so before that night, but the old struggling MvG reappeared that night one last time, whereas Hubbard seemed completely relaxed after the recent Grand Slam experience of stage TV play. Sid Waddell's last night of commentary that night too.

M H wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:56 pm

Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:37 pm Old pal robson still driving the brutally humourless inmates round the bend on digispy.

adams was the best player in the world from 2007 to 2011 - only maybe taylor was his equal - hed be top 3 in the pdc - an old adams won all 3 groups games at the gsod on pdc turf - hes in the top 5 ever with lowe taylor bristow and durrant - part is just behind with barney -

robson

Oh dear

Martin Adams had serious issues with Raymond van Barneveld in TV matches, so where does that put Adams compared to Phil Taylor? The 2005 Lakeshite final when Barney beat Adams 6-2, and then another 6-2 win over Adams the following year in the semi final just a month before Barney switched to the PDC. Later in 2006, Taylor and Adams met in the World Darts Trophy final over a World Championship final format, and Taylor won 7-2.

I do think that Adams is both overrated and underrated. He was one of the best players in the world, but certainly not in the top 3. The best players in 2007-2010 were Taylor, Barney and Wade, and below that I'd put players like T. Jenkins, King and Adams. G. Anderson and A. Lewis were incredible on their day in that period, but inconsistent. Adams would be in the mix somewhat, but would fall short of winning TV majors in my opinion, especially if Taylor is on a ridiculous run of form like March 2008 to September 2010. I even reckon the Roland Scholten of 2007-2008, who wasn't quite as good as the 2004-2006 Scholten, could potentially give Adams trouble. Scholten did beat Adams in the quarter finals of the 2006 International Darts League.

Adams did well in the group stage of the 2015 Grand Slam, but then fell short against Kim Huybrechts in the Last 16. Why didn't Adams play the Grand Slam in the years before? I can understand why he missed the first one in 2007 because it clashed with the World Masters, but there were no excuses in 2008 and 2009 when he turned down his invitation. On the other hand, had Adams accepted the offer in 2009 then Scott Waites would never have gotten into the Grand Slam that year, which would have changed a lot.

thegentle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:03 am Indeed, but you're forgetting that Wolfie matured

adams finally matured and mastered the lakesde stage - lakey was still in its golden years when bareny left - and it would stay like that until 2011 - adams won three world titles in that time -

robson

nice to see mvg handled the pressure - and people say he would walk through lakey - bullshit -

robson

Rogg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:21 pm how about an honoutable mention for jackie - hes what we need - a proper darts fan - that lad loves Lakeshite darts - i bet if we all went to lakey this evening and turned the light on - hed jump out and surpises us - instead of slagging of the bdo duzza and dbg - lets have a bit of positivity - to jackie -

I suspect that van Tergouw is finished as a darts player. There are many better players coming through, who have got better match fitness compared to him. Even a management company like Modus have decided to not retain him in their player roster, which speaks volumes.

Rogg wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:27 am

I suspect that van Tergouw is finished as a darts player. There are many better players coming through, who have got better match fitness compared to him. Even a management company like Modus have decided to not retain him in their player roster, which speaks volumes.

This must break some record.

thegentle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:19 pm

Rogg wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:27 am This must break some record.

Mitchell Clegg? Didn't hear much from him after he co-debuted in the PDC Worlds with Barney