Boxing

[shenmue]

AJ was terrible for 5 rounds or so and fought petrified and when he actually had a go he almost dropped Dubois other two wins don't impress me much to be honest, one obese yank mess and the Croatian looked shite vs zhang and Joycey.

I think Dubois gets stopped again, fairplay if he wins though, I'll definitely give him credit.

[Randall]

What does he weigh? Looks light

254lbs

How strange

[shenmue]

How bizarre

[HalloweenJack]

Embarrassing opponent, time to step up now young moses.

Indeed.

He's more than capable of stepping up in class too.

He does need to be fighting better though. Warren has implied he would put him in with Bakole.
A step up for Moses would be someone like Dave Allen/ David Adeleye. He would likely then beat them, then someone like Hughie Fury, who has a decent chin and is durable.

[sennafan24]

Embarrassing opponent, time to step up now young moses.

Indeed.

He's more than capable of stepping up in class too.

He does need to be fighting better though. Warren has implied he would put him in with Bakole.
A step up for Moses would be someone like Dave Allen/ David Adeleye. He would likely then beat them, then someone like Hughie Fury, who has a decent chin and is durable.

Allen, Adeleye and Fury would be wastes of time.

I would like to see him fight Bakole or Hrgović before the end of the year.

[shenmue]

I agree with Senna, the hype is too much to be fighting the likes of feather fisted fury and journeyman level Allen.

Stop the hype or step up. Sink or swim. He's young enough to bounce back if it goes tits up if he's good enough.

[HalloweenJack]

Embarrassing opponent, time to step up now young moses.

Indeed.

He's more than capable of stepping up in class too.

He does need to be fighting better though. Warren has implied he would put him in with Bakole.
A step up for Moses would be someone like Dave Allen/ David Adeleye. He would likely then beat them, then someone like Hughie Fury, who has a decent chin and is durable.

Allen, Adeleye and Fury would be wastes of time.

I would like to see him fight Bakole or Hrgović before the end of the year.

Why would Hughie Fury be a waste of time fight?
Fury is durable and can take a punch, he is also awkward so could likely frustrate Moses. This would be a fight where he is having to deal with an awkward style and someone who is durable.
This would be a great learning curve fight.
Both 3 opponents Ive mentioned are still better than anything Moses has fought to date.

[shenmue]

I wouldn't watch fury if he was fighting in my back garden mate that's the problem I have with it.

Everything you said is right but as a viewer I have zero and I mean zero interest in it.

[HalloweenJack]

I wouldn't watch fury if he was fighting in my back garden mate that's the problem I have with it.

Everything you said is right but as a viewer I have zero and I mean zero interest in it.

The fight would be more a case of what could Moses do though, he has to step up.
Another one which would be interesting is a fight against Fabio Wardley. Two big punchers.

[shenmue]

Now your talking mate, I'd watch that or the guy he's fighting in two weeks time, he looks decent.

[sennafan24]

Embarrassing opponent, time to step up now young moses.

Indeed.

He's more than capable of stepping up in class too.

He does need to be fighting better though. Warren has implied he would put him in with Bakole.
A step up for Moses would be someone like Dave Allen/ David Adeleye. He would likely then beat them, then someone like Hughie Fury, who has a decent chin and is durable.

Allen, Adeleye and Fury would be wastes of time.

I would like to see him fight Bakole or Hrgović before the end of the year.

Why would Hughie Fury be a waste of time fight?
Fury is durable and can take a punch, he is also awkward so could likely frustrate Moses. This would be a fight where he is having to deal with an awkward style and someone who is durable.
This would be a great learning curve fight.
Both 3 opponents Ive mentioned are still better than anything Moses has fought to date.

Fury was inactive for 3 years and has only this past year returned fighting at a low level. Wach was also meant to have a good chin, as he took Clarke, Whyte and Lerena the distance, yet it didn't hold up against Itauma.

Fury was never that good when he was relevant either. An ancient Povetkin beat him easily.

It would be better for Itauma to fight Wallin next then Bakole.

[sennafan24]

I wouldn't watch fury if he was fighting in my back garden mate that's the problem I have with it.

Everything you said is right but as a viewer I have zero and I mean zero interest in it.

The fight would be more a case of what could Moses do though, he has to step up.
Another one which would be interesting is a fight against Fabio Wardley. Two big punchers.

Wardley would get splattered. The gulf in skill is massive.

Besides, they are training partners, so it's unlikely to happen.

[shenmue]

Wallin was a disgrace vs old delboy, not sure he deserves another payday after than performance.

Can definitely see that happening though, wallin is another I can't stand watching, barely throws.

[sennafan24]

Wallin was a disgrace vs old delboy, not sure he deserves another payday after than performance.

Can definitely see that happening though, wallin is another I can't stand watching, barely throws.

I think the Wallin fight is a sensible step up. It's at least a name people know who has recently boxed world ranked opposition.

But really, I think Moses is ready for Bakole and the like now. I'd think he'd piss it against them.

[HalloweenJack]

Wallin was a disgrace vs old delboy, not sure he deserves another payday after than performance.

Can definitely see that happening though, wallin is another I can't stand watching, barely throws.

I think the Wallin fight is a sensible step up. It's at least a name people know who has recently boxed world ranked opposition.

But really, I think Moses is ready for Bakole and the like now. I'd think he'd piss it against them.

Why do you think he is ready for someone like Bakole now based on the low level opposition he has been fighting?

[HalloweenJack]

Indeed.

He's more than capable of stepping up in class too.

He does need to be fighting better though. Warren has implied he would put him in with Bakole.
A step up for Moses would be someone like Dave Allen/ David Adeleye. He would likely then beat them, then someone like Hughie Fury, who has a decent chin and is durable.

Allen, Adeleye and Fury would be wastes of time.

I would like to see him fight Bakole or Hrgović before the end of the year.

Why would Hughie Fury be a waste of time fight?
Fury is durable and can take a punch, he is also awkward so could likely frustrate Moses. This would be a fight where he is having to deal with an awkward style and someone who is durable.
This would be a great learning curve fight.
Both 3 opponents Ive mentioned are still better than anything Moses has fought to date.

Fury was inactive for 3 years and has only this past year returned fighting at a low level. Wach was also meant to have a good chin, as he took Clarke, Whyte and Lerena the distance, yet it didn't hold up against Itauma.

Fury was never that good when he was relevant either. An ancient Povetkin beat him easily.

It would be better for Itauma to fight Wallin next then Bakole.

The same Povetkin who in his fight previous to fighting Fury challenged Joshua for his belts and who after Fury sparked out Dillian Whyte.
I’ve not claimed Hughie Fury was great ( although I do think he could have got the nod against Parker)

Edit - Fury was inactive for 2 and a half years and has fought 4 times since April last year, albeit against low level opposition.

[sennafan24]

Embarrassing opponent, time to step up now young moses.

Indeed.

He's more than capable of stepping up in class too.

He does need to be fighting better though. Warren has implied he would put him in with Bakole.
A step up for Moses would be someone like Dave Allen/ David Adeleye. He would likely then beat them, then someone like Hughie Fury, who has a decent chin and is durable.

Allen, Adeleye and Fury would be wastes of time.

I would like to see him fight Bakole or Hrgović before the end of the year.

Why would Hughie Fury be a waste of time fight?
Fury is durable and can take a punch, he is also awkward so could likely frustrate Moses. This would be a fight where he is having to deal with an awkward style and someone who is durable.
This would be a great learning curve fight.
Both 3 opponents Ive mentioned are still better than anything Moses has fought to date.

1. Eye test

2. Things I've read about him from people whose opinions I respect and who have followed his progress closely.

[sennafan24]

He does need to be fighting better though. Warren has implied he would put him in with Bakole.
A step up for Moses would be someone like Dave Allen/ David Adeleye. He would likely then beat them, then someone like Hughie Fury, who has a decent chin and is durable.

Allen, Adeleye and Fury would be wastes of time.

I would like to see him fight Bakole or Hrgović before the end of the year.

Why would Hughie Fury be a waste of time fight?
Fury is durable and can take a punch, he is also awkward so could likely frustrate Moses. This would be a fight where he is having to deal with an awkward style and someone who is durable.
This would be a great learning curve fight.
Both 3 opponents Ive mentioned are still better than anything Moses has fought to date.

Fury was inactive for 3 years and has only this past year returned fighting at a low level. Wach was also meant to have a good chin, as he took Clarke, Whyte and Lerena the distance, yet it didn't hold up against Itauma.

Fury was never that good when he was relevant either. An ancient Povetkin beat him easily.

It would be better for Itauma to fight Wallin next then Bakole.

The same Povetkin who in his fight previous to fighting Fury challenged Joshua for his belts and who after Fury sparked out Dillian Whyte.
I’ve not claimed Hughie Fury was great ( although I do think he could have got the nod against Parker)

Povetkin looked like crap before he caught Whyte in their first meeting (I never rated Whyte anyway)

It's a myth that Fury should have got the nod against Parker. It was a draw at best for Fury.

Moses lamps that version of Fury. He decimates the current version. He's ready for better opposition.

[HalloweenJack]

Indeed.

He's more than capable of stepping up in class too.

He does need to be fighting better though. Warren has implied he would put him in with Bakole.
A step up for Moses would be someone like Dave Allen/ David Adeleye. He would likely then beat them, then someone like Hughie Fury, who has a decent chin and is durable.

Allen, Adeleye and Fury would be wastes of time.

I would like to see him fight Bakole or Hrgović before the end of the year.

Why would Hughie Fury be a waste of time fight?
Fury is durable and can take a punch, he is also awkward so could likely frustrate Moses. This would be a fight where he is having to deal with an awkward style and someone who is durable.
This would be a great learning curve fight.
Both 3 opponents Ive mentioned are still better than anything Moses has fought to date.

1. Eye test

2. Things I've read about him from people whose opinions I respect and who have followed his progress closely.

I think you might have quoted the wrong post.
Moses is certainly promising, but to throw him in with a Bakole now would be madness. I think Bakole is overrated by the way.

[sennafan24]

Wallin was a disgrace vs old delboy, not sure he deserves another payday after than performance.

Can definitely see that happening though, wallin is another I can't stand watching, barely throws.

I think the Wallin fight is a sensible step up. It's at least a name people know who has recently boxed world ranked opposition.

But really, I think Moses is ready for Bakole and the like now. I'd think he'd piss it against them.

Why do you think he is ready for someone like Bakole now based on the low level opposition he has been fighting?

I forgot to add

3. Bakole is more hype than substance. Billy Nelson has done an excellent job of creating the myth that he's a modern day Foreman.