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Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:43 pm
by PT13
Jimmi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:39 pm
PT13 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:28 pm
Jimmi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:21 pm
PT13 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:08 pm
Jimmi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:45 pm
Still mad that Wade has won 6 but has no World Championship.
He had his chance in 2012, leading Lewis 5-1 and having a match dart for a 6-2 win, before losing 5-6. Hamilton was waiting in the final.
Curiously, 2012 is about the only year when Wade has been in good form at the World Championship. In other years, even when he's gone deep in the tournament, he's had to battle.
Remember it quite well, that semi final
Yes. It was a frustrating night.
Wadey's level really fell off a cliff once Lewis made it 3-5 with a 98 checkout (treble 20, double 19), with Wade not winning another leg. Lewis won the last 10 legs of the match. For the rest of the match after Lewis made it 3-5, I reckon Wade had only 4 darts at a double, and 3 of those were in one leg in the last set where he missed double 20 and double 10 (his favourite doubles) by a distance. There were plenty of legs in those last 3 sets where Wade's score was way behind, sometimes hundreds of points behind.
Even at 5-1 to Wade, Wade was battling against Lewis' rising darts form in that set and the next set (while Wade's own was declining slightly) just enough to have the 1 match dart in the eighth set, but he failed. It was odd because Wade was battering Lewis badly from 2-1 to 5-1, after the whole windgate controversy in sets 2 and 3.
Didn’t the match finish at like 1am?
Yeah, something like that. The first semi final between Hamilton and Whitlock was a long one, Hamilton winning 6-5. Wade and Lewis had a few delays with the whole windgate controversy in sets 2 and 3, one break of which must have been 20 minutes while they switched off the air conditioning and checked every door, but even then there was more wind from somewhere.
Once Wade vs. Lewis had finished, Lewis had to do his press conferences and then he had to do a drug test. He didn't get into bed until around 5:30am, and he had a final to play the following evening. It's perhaps no surprise that the final between Lewis and Hamilton was rather lacklustre as a spectacle, with Lewis briefly showing good checkouts at key moments of the final to win it 7-3.
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:33 am
by The Thorn
Shows you how useless Hammercunt was that he still got battered
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:14 am
by Rogg
Twitlock had been 5-3 up on Hammer Hamilton in the first semi too. Surprised I didn't kill myself that night.
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:09 pm
by Rogg
Thread bump for next week...
By Number (World Championships in that total)
46 (14) - - - Phil Taylor
15 (3) - - - Michael van Gerwen
6 - - - James Wade
4 (2) - - - Gary Anderson
4 (2) - - - Peter Wright
3 (2) - - - Adrian Lewis
3 (1) - - - Raymond van Barneveld
2 (2) - - - John Part
2 (1) - - - Rob Cross
2 (1) - - - Gerwyn Price
2 - - - Nathan Aspinall
2 - - - Rod Harrington
2 - - - Colin Lloyd
2 - - - Robert Thornton
1 (1) - - - Dennis Priestley
1 (1) - - - Michael Smith
1 - - - Larry Butler
1 - - - Jonny Clayton
1 - - - Peter Evison
1 - - - Andrew Gilding
1 - - - Daryl Gurney
1 - - - Luke Humphries
1 - - - Danny Noppert
1 - - - Roland Scholten
1 - - - Dimitri Van den Bergh
1 - - - Alan Warriner
Number of events: 107
Number of different winners: 26
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:21 pm
by Rogg
Cross levels up with Lewis if he wins it. He'll have only had a card for 7 seasons. But one game at a time.
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:41 am
by Rogg
If Humph wins, he goes level with Cross and Price. An interesting trio. I wonder how we would go about separating them.
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:42 am
by The Thorn
Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:41 am
If Humph wins, he goes level with Cross and Price. An interesting trio. I wonder how we would go about separating them.
Price having the 3 Slams is the strongest argument
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:43 am
by PT13
Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:41 am
If Humph wins, he goes level with Cross and Price. An interesting trio. I wonder how we would go about separating them.
Either Cross gets the edge for a World Championship and World Matchplay, or Price's 3 Grand Slam wins are better than a World Matchplay (especially given the brilliance of Price's play in the 2019 and 2021 finals, which were at the highest level of darts play for long periods of the final).
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:46 am
by Rogg
The Thorn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:42 am
Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:41 am
If Humph wins, he goes level with Cross and Price. An interesting trio. I wonder how we would go about separating them.
Price having the 3 Slams is the strongest argument
3 Slams is definitely special.
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:58 am
by Rogg
PT13 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:43 am
Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:41 am
If Humph wins, he goes level with Cross and Price. An interesting trio. I wonder how we would go about separating them.
Either Cross gets the edge for a World Championship and World Matchplay, or Price's 3 Grand Slam wins are better than a World Matchplay (especially given the brilliance of Price's play in the 2019 and 2021 finals, which were at the highest level of darts play for long periods of the final).
Style is definitely important. So maybe speaking of which, does it affect the meaning of Pricey's world title for you that it was won behind closed doors?
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:05 am
by PT13
Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:58 am
PT13 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:43 am
Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:41 am
If Humph wins, he goes level with Cross and Price. An interesting trio. I wonder how we would go about separating them.
Either Cross gets the edge for a World Championship and World Matchplay, or Price's 3 Grand Slam wins are better than a World Matchplay (especially given the brilliance of Price's play in the 2019 and 2021 finals, which were at the highest level of darts play for long periods of the final).
Style is definitely important. So maybe speaking of which, does it affect the meaning of Pricey's world title for you that it was won behind closed doors?
A small bit, perhaps. Other people do exaggerate it. Price was the best player and the most in form at the time.
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:32 am
by HalloweenJack
PT13 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:05 am
Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:58 am
PT13 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:43 am
Rogg wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:41 am
If Humph wins, he goes level with Cross and Price. An interesting trio. I wonder how we would go about separating them.
Either Cross gets the edge for a World Championship and World Matchplay, or Price's 3 Grand Slam wins are better than a World Matchplay (especially given the brilliance of Price's play in the 2019 and 2021 finals, which were at the highest level of darts play for long periods of the final).
Style is definitely important. So maybe speaking of which, does it affect the meaning of Pricey's world title for you that it was won behind closed doors?
A small bit, perhaps. Other people do exaggerate it. Price was the best player and the most in form at the time.
That doesn’t fit the narrative for some on here though.
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:40 am
by Rogg
We've narrowed it down to a Luke.
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:45 am
by shenmue
May the best Luke win.
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:51 pm
by Rogg
By Number (World Championships in that total)
46 (14) - - - Phil Taylor
15 (3) - - - Michael van Gerwen
6 - - - James Wade
4 (2) - - - Gary Anderson
4 (2) - - - Peter Wright
3 (2) - - - Adrian Lewis
3 (1) - - - Raymond van Barneveld
2 (2) - - - John Part
2 (1) - - - Rob Cross
2 (1) - - - Luke Humphries
2 (1) - - - Gerwyn Price
2 - - - Nathan Aspinall
2 - - - Rod Harrington
2 - - - Colin Lloyd
2 - - - Robert Thornton
1 (1) - - - Dennis Priestley
1 (1) - - - Michael Smith
1 - - - Larry Butler
1 - - - Jonny Clayton
1 - - - Peter Evison
1 - - - Andrew Gilding
1 - - - Daryl Gurney
1 - - - Danny Noppert
1 - - - Roland Scholten
1 - - - Dimitri Van den Bergh
1 - - - Alan Warriner
Number of events: 108
Number of different winners: 26
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:59 pm
by shenmue
Humps might win more than wadey. Won't be easy but he has a chance.
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:00 am
by Rogg
He wasn't even the best Luke in the world 90 minutes ago.
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:52 am
by Rogg
Bump. Someone there are only 19 days until the UK Open so it will soon be list time again. Who will it be this time?
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:55 am
by Randall
Hopefully littler or Hendo
Re: PDC Old 4 TV Event Winners: All-Time List
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:47 pm
by Brainbox
Rogg wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:52 am
Bump. Someone there are only 19 days until the UK Open so it will soon be list time again. Who will it be this time?
Michael Smith I reckon. Just a hunch.