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Durrant above Cross and Harrington?

Who used multiple accounts to vote for Duzza?

Jimmi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:21 pm Durrant above Cross and Harrington?

Who used multiple accounts to vote for Duzza?

The Thorn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:23 pm

Jimmi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:21 pm Durrant above Cross and Harrington?

Who used multiple accounts to vote for Duzza?

Load of shite.
I don't really care that much, but think I'm just a bit salty that Wade got in above Wright and Cross.

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:49 pmIt wouldn’t have mattered what version of Chizzy got to the final, he would still lose. He is another who it seems cannot get over the line. If him and Bullyboy play a major final it’s a good bet to say it goes to a last leg decider they both end up on madhouse with numerous match darts missed a piece.

So Adams beat an inexperienced bottler then?

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:28 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:49 pmIt wouldn’t have mattered what version of Chizzy got to the final, he would still lose. He is another who it seems cannot get over the line. If him and Bullyboy play a major final it’s a good bet to say it goes to a last leg decider they both end up on madhouse with numerous match darts missed a piece.

So Adams beat an inexperienced bottler then?

The Thorn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:23 pm

Jimmi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:21 pm Durrant above Cross and Harrington?

Who used multiple accounts to vote for Duzza?

Okay
If I wanted to do that, don’t you think Wade would have been higher than 12th ??

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:28 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:49 pmIt wouldn’t have mattered what version of Chizzy got to the final, he would still lose. He is another who it seems cannot get over the line. If him and Bullyboy play a major final it’s a good bet to say it goes to a last leg decider they both end up on madhouse with numerous match darts missed a piece.

So Adams beat an inexperienced bottler then?

From the best field ever assembled?
How is this possible?

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:28 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:49 pmIt wouldn’t have mattered what version of Chizzy got to the final, he would still lose. He is another who it seems cannot get over the line. If him and Bullyboy play a major final it’s a good bet to say it goes to a last leg decider they both end up on madhouse with numerous match darts missed a piece.

So Adams beat an inexperienced bottler then?

As I’ve stated previously, you can only beat who is in front of you.

LET'S! PLAAAAY! DAAAARTS!

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:31 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:28 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:49 pmIt wouldn’t have mattered what version of Chizzy got to the final, he would still lose. He is another who it seems cannot get over the line. If him and Bullyboy play a major final it’s a good bet to say it goes to a last leg decider they both end up on madhouse with numerous match darts missed a piece.

So Adams beat an inexperienced bottler then?

As I’ve stated previously, you can only beat who is in front of you.

You can also choose not to play where the best players are

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:31 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:28 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:49 pmIt wouldn’t have mattered what version of Chizzy got to the final, he would still lose. He is another who it seems cannot get over the line. If him and Bullyboy play a major final it’s a good bet to say it goes to a last leg decider they both end up on madhouse with numerous match darts missed a piece.

So Adams beat an inexperienced bottler then?

As I’ve stated previously, you can only beat who is in front of you.

Beating average players doesn't make you great though, does it?

The bulk of Adams' success came between 2009 and 2011, after Anderson, Webster, and Thornton had left for the PDC. Between 2007 and 2009, Spineless had a combined 1-6 record against those three, and a 1-3 record in major events. His sole win coming against those three in that period came against Thornton at Lakeside 2008.

Who did Adams keep finding to lose too as all the good players fucked off?

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:40 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:31 pm

sennafan24 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:28 pm

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:49 pmIt wouldn’t have mattered what version of Chizzy got to the final, he would still lose. He is another who it seems cannot get over the line. If him and Bullyboy play a major final it’s a good bet to say it goes to a last leg decider they both end up on madhouse with numerous match darts missed a piece.

So Adams beat an inexperienced bottler then?

As I’ve stated previously, you can only beat who is in front of you.

Beating average players doesn't make you great though, does it?

The bulk of Adams' success came between 2009 and 2011, after Anderson, Webster, and Thornton had left for the PDC. Between 2007 and 2009, Spineless went a combined 1-6 against those three, and 1-3 in major events. His sole win coming against those three in that period came against Thornton at Lakeside 2008.

If what you are saying is true and to your mind he isn’t as good as people make out, why is he high up in best ever player polls? Wayne Mardle I think had him around 6 I am not suggesting he is anywhere near that high but these polls or the people that vote/compile them have a valid opinion too, just because you or I disagree doesn’t make them wrong. Eg Viz believes that Steve Beaton and Mervyn King should be higher than Rob Cross, now I can’t see an argument for that. Viz even brought popularity into it which isn’t a criteria I think is relevant, but who am I to say?

Randall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:43 pm Who did Adams keep finding to lose too as all the good players fucked off?

From Wiki:

2012: Quarter Final (lost to Tony O'Shea 2–5)
2013: 1st Round (lost to Jimmy Hendriks 2–3)
2014: Quarter Final (lost to Jan Dekker 2–5)
2015: Runner-Up (lost to Scott Mitchell 6–7)
2016: 1st Round (lost to Jeff Smith 0–3)
2017: Quarter Final (lost to Jamie Hughes 4–5)
2018: 1st Round (lost to Mark McGeeney 2–3)
2020: 1st Round (lost to Scott Waites 2–3)

And the period 94-06?

List of players Adams lost to at Lakeside the last decade:

2010 - winner
2011 - winner
2012 - Tony O'Shea
2013 - Jimmy Hendriks
2014 - Jan Dekker
2015 - Scott Mitchell
2016 - Jeff Smith
2017 - Jamie Hughes
2018 - Mark McGeeney
2019 - didn't play

Fuck off Senna!

You can still best him too 94-06

HalloweenJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:45 pm If what you are saying is true and to your mind he isn’t as good as people make out, why is he high up in best ever player polls? Wayne Mardle I think had him around 6 I am not suggesting he is anywhere near that high but these polls or the people that vote/compile them have a valid opinion too, just because you or I disagree doesn’t make them wrong. Eg Viz believes that Steve Beaton and Mervyn King should be higher than Rob Cross, now I can’t see an argument for that. Viz even brought popularity into it which isn’t a criteria I think is relevant, but who am I to say?

Mardle also ranked MVG above Taylor on that list. When asked to justify that opinion by other pundits, he failed to do so and was left looking silly.

As for why Spineless is rated highly by many, there are a few reasons. Many judge him on the titles he won, rather than how he won those titles and who he beat to win them. Some overrate his ability because he remained a BDO-loyalist (see Oche Balboa, Rout, IFM, etc). Others rate him highly simply because he's well-known and had that dopey "Wolfie" gimmick.