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Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:04 am
by Rogg
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:54 am
Rogg wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:47 am WAITES!! You're not meant to snort the Beanie's cherry bakewell instant coffee Randall. It's for boiled water.
He did win a slam and make a final so more valid than hankey I thought..
Anyone for rees?
Hinges' pair of Lakeshites are a disgrace. What about multiple winners of PDC big ones? Cross, Price, Thornton...?

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:05 am
by vizIIsto
Peter Wright is definitely not past James Wade yet. When he's number one after the 2021 Worlds I'll change my mind.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:07 am
by HalloweenJack
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:03 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:01 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:00 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:58 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:48 am

:lol:
I’m not wrong though am I. Let’s Say Wade gets 2 world titles he would have to go after Anderson due to him winning more.
So bill is you?
Don’t be daft Randall 🤯
I quoted bill and you replied in the 1st person about it so I figured it was you.
I also disagreed with what Bill said, but I stand by my claim that if Wade were to get 2 world titles, due to titles won he goes above Anderson without any argument.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:08 am
by HalloweenJack
vizIIsto wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:05 am Peter Wright is definitely not past James Wade yet. When he's number one after the 2021 Worlds I'll change my mind.
As I’ve said earlier, no other poll anywhere would have Wright above Wade at this current time.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:40 am
by Jimmi
Wright's one PDC World title (and beating MVG in the final) = More than anything Wade has won.

Wade's Major finals wins and his opponents:

UK Open: Gary Mawson (who?)
Wes Newton

Matchplay:
Terry Jenkins (notorious bottler)

Grand Prix:
Terry Jenkins
Adrian Lewis.

Lewis is the only one he's played who is actually a major winner.

And for those being pedantic about his Premier League win.
He beat Mervyn King in the final.

People are more likely to remember Wright being World Champion than Wade winning any of those other majors.

Having said that, I'd have Cross above Wright anyway. :lol:

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:45 am
by Randall
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:07 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:03 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:01 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:00 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:58 am

I’m not wrong though am I. Let’s Say Wade gets 2 world titles he would have to go after Anderson due to him winning more.
So bill is you?
Don’t be daft Randall 🤯
I quoted bill and you replied in the 1st person about it so I figured it was you.
I also disagreed with what Bill said, but I stand by my claim that if Wade were to get 2 world titles, due to titles won he goes above Anderson without any argument.
You keep saying if he gets 2 world titles
It's never going to happen
Never made final at the worlds and generally has an horrendous record there

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:46 am
by Randall
Rogg wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:04 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:54 am
Rogg wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:47 am WAITES!! You're not meant to snort the Beanie's cherry bakewell instant coffee Randall. It's for boiled water.
He did win a slam and make a final so more valid than hankey I thought..
Anyone for rees?
Hinges' pair of Lakeshites are a disgrace. What about multiple winners of PDC big ones? Cross, Price, Thornton...?
I can add all of them to the next poll
If I remember

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:50 am
by SuperSwede
sennafan24 wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:49 am With Wright and Wade seemingly taking 12th and 13th places respectively, it will be interesting to see who takes 14th place.

There is no obvious front-runner at the moment.
Has to be Cross.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:58 am
by HalloweenJack
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:45 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:07 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:03 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:01 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:00 am

So bill is you?
Don’t be daft Randall 🤯
I quoted bill and you replied in the 1st person about it so I figured it was you.
I also disagreed with what Bill said, but I stand by my claim that if Wade were to get 2 world titles, due to titles won he goes above Anderson without any argument.
You keep saying if he gets 2 world titles
It's never going to happen
Never made final at the worlds and generally has an horrendous record there
Never say never Randall.
Out of interest, do you think Wade will win another Premier event/Major ?? I do

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:00 am
by The Thorn
I would add Rees and Alan Evans as well probably to the poll at this point.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:02 am
by Potter's Lake
It's fair to have Wright above Cross, he wins on almost every metric, longevity, consistency at the top, absolute peak, etc.

If Cross followed his form off a cliff tomorrow then you could argue he'd barely done anything more than Deller. The single world champs are slim pickings as it turns out.

As for this I went with Wade but Wright's probably a few months away from eclipsing him.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:09 am
by HalloweenJack
Potter's Lake wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:02 am It's fair to have Wright above Cross, he wins on almost every metric, longevity, consistency at the top, absolute peak, etc.

If Cross followed his form off a cliff tomorrow then you could argue he'd barely done anything more than Deller. The single world champs are slim pickings as it turns out.

As for this I went with Wade but Wright's probably a few months away from eclipsing him.
What about Cross winning the Matchplay? I honestly believe if Wade has beaten Wright at the weekend his poll wouldn’t even be close.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:38 am
by Randall
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:58 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:45 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:07 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:03 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:01 am

Don’t be daft Randall 🤯
I quoted bill and you replied in the 1st person about it so I figured it was you.
I also disagreed with what Bill said, but I stand by my claim that if Wade were to get 2 world titles, due to titles won he goes above Anderson without any argument.
You keep saying if he gets 2 world titles
It's never going to happen
Never made final at the worlds and generally has an horrendous record there
Never say never Randall.
Out of interest, do you think Wade will win another Premier event/Major ?? I do
A real major?
No
One of the pretend ones, possibly if someone else takes care of all of the top players for him again.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:58 am
by HalloweenJack
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:38 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:58 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:45 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:07 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:03 am

I quoted bill and you replied in the 1st person about it so I figured it was you.
I also disagreed with what Bill said, but I stand by my claim that if Wade were to get 2 world titles, due to titles won he goes above Anderson without any argument.
You keep saying if he gets 2 world titles
It's never going to happen
Never made final at the worlds and generally has an horrendous record there
Never say never Randall.
Out of interest, do you think Wade will win another Premier event/Major ?? I do
A real major?
No
One of the pretend ones, possibly if someone else takes care of all of the top players for him again.
A bit like when Wade took care of Lewis and Taylor ( with big averages) in the 2014 Masters before going onto win against King.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:00 pm
by Randall
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:58 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:38 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:58 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:45 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:07 am

I also disagreed with what Bill said, but I stand by my claim that if Wade were to get 2 world titles, due to titles won he goes above Anderson without any argument.
You keep saying if he gets 2 world titles
It's never going to happen
Never made final at the worlds and generally has an horrendous record there
Never say never Randall.
Out of interest, do you think Wade will win another Premier event/Major ?? I do
A real major?
No
One of the pretend ones, possibly if someone else takes care of all of the top players for him again.
A bit like when Wade took care of Lewis and Taylor ( with big averages) in the 2014 Masters before going onto win against King.
One of the pretend ones yes

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:01 pm
by HalloweenJack
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:00 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:58 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:38 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:58 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:45 am

You keep saying if he gets 2 world titles
It's never going to happen
Never made final at the worlds and generally has an horrendous record there
Never say never Randall.
Out of interest, do you think Wade will win another Premier event/Major ?? I do
A real major?
No
One of the pretend ones, possibly if someone else takes care of all of the top players for him again.
A bit like when Wade took care of Lewis and Taylor ( with big averages) in the 2014 Masters before going onto win against King.
One of the pretend ones yes
In your eyes it might be. I think this debate has been done before.
Wade was brilliant in that event except in the final which King somehow managed to lose.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:03 pm
by Randall
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:01 pm
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:00 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:58 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:38 am
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:58 am

Never say never Randall.
Out of interest, do you think Wade will win another Premier event/Major ?? I do
A real major?
No
One of the pretend ones, possibly if someone else takes care of all of the top players for him again.
A bit like when Wade took care of Lewis and Taylor ( with big averages) in the 2014 Masters before going onto win against King.
One of the pretend ones yes
In your eyes it might be. I think this debate has been done before.
It has and nobody thinks a 2 day invitational exbo is a major.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:05 pm
by HalloweenJack
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:03 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:01 pm
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:00 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:58 am
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:38 am

A real major?
No
One of the pretend ones, possibly if someone else takes care of all of the top players for him again.
A bit like when Wade took care of Lewis and Taylor ( with big averages) in the 2014 Masters before going onto win against King.
One of the pretend ones yes
In your eyes it might be. I think this debate has been done before.
It has and nobody thinks a 2 day invitational exbo is a major.
The PDC do and so do the players and it counts towards players totals. Granted it is arguably the ‘major’ with the lowest prestige.

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:07 pm
by Randall
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:05 pm
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:03 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:01 pm
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:00 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:58 am

A bit like when Wade took care of Lewis and Taylor ( with big averages) in the 2014 Masters before going onto win against King.
One of the pretend ones yes
In your eyes it might be. I think this debate has been done before.
It has and nobody thinks a 2 day invitational exbo is a major.
The PDC do and so do the players and it counts towards players totals. Granted it is arguably the ‘major’ with the lowest prestige.
Meh

Re: The darts forum definitive all time top 20 -12th place poll

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:33 pm
by HalloweenJack
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:07 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:05 pm
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:03 pm
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:01 pm
Randall wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:00 pm

One of the pretend ones yes
In your eyes it might be. I think this debate has been done before.
It has and nobody thinks a 2 day invitational exbo is a major.
The PDC do and so do the players and it counts towards players totals. Granted it is arguably the ‘major’ with the lowest prestige.
Meh
Shall we keep
This going for the post count 😉