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Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:44 pm
by Safc
sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:04 pm Halloween Jack just PM'd me his list for the top 10 darts players of all-time:

1) Wade
2) The Tories
3) Duzza
4) Wade
5) Duzza
6) Wade
7) Duzza
8) Wade
9) Hankey
10) Wattimena

Load of bollocks.
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Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:49 pm
by HalloweenJack
Safc wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:44 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:04 pm Halloween Jack just PM'd me his list for the top 10 darts players of all-time:

1) Wade
2) The Tories
3) Duzza
4) Wade
5) Duzza
6) Wade
7) Duzza
8) Wade
9) Hankey
10) Wattimena

Load of bollocks.
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That was quite funny up until number 10

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:34 am
by cannibal
sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:25 pm Halloween Jack and Viz hijacking the thread there.
Reading the post from these two over the past few days. leads me to believe that these two are in a symbiotic relationship. Only these two twats can make each other sound like they have 2 brain cells between them.

Congrats to Oche Balboa you have graduated to head of the class. Due to the piss poor quality of the freshmen class and the falling standards we have no other choice but to promote Oche. Please pass your crayons to stupid swede and drooling viz.

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:46 am
by sennafan24
cannibal wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:34 am
sennafan24 wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:25 pm Halloween Jack and Viz hijacking the thread there.
Reading the post from these two over the past few days. leads me to believe that these two are in a symbiotic relationship. Only these two twats can make each other sound like they have 2 brain cells between them.

Congrats to Oche Balboa you have graduated to head of the class. Due to the piss poor quality of the freshmen class and the falling standards we have no other choice but to promote Oche. Please pass your crayons to stupid swede and drooling viz.
Should Halloween Jack be called a premier troll or a major troll?

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:09 pm
by oche balboa
Yes.

Adams is a top 20 of all time, Sure there are downsides but its common among loads of players/pundits that he is top 20.

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:11 pm
by Randall
Top 20 is probably about right

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:22 pm
by sennafan24
Top 20? Perhaps.

But still massively overrated.

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:25 pm
by sennafan24
Players who are either better or more proven at the highest level:

Taylor
MVG
Bristow
Lowe
Priestley
Bob Anderson
Gary Anderson
RVB
Wade
Lewis
Wright
Cross
Wilson
Part
Price

I'd even rate Duzza above him. Perhaps even Waites.

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:31 pm
by Rogg
Wolfie 25/1 to win the 2001 World Grand Prix, there. Level with that other "all-time great" Dave Askew.

He hadn't yet matured, presumably.


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Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:35 pm
by sennafan24
Rogg wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:31 pm Wolfie 25/1 to win the 2001 World Grand Prix, there. Level with that other "all-time great" Dave Askew.

He hadn't yet matured, presumably.


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So the bookmakers rated the likes of Burnett, Warriner, and Rod above him?

Anyway, that was the tournament where a prime version of Adams lost to a past-it version of Lowe.

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:39 pm
by Rogg
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:35 pm
Rogg wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:31 pm Wolfie 25/1 to win the 2001 World Grand Prix, there. Level with that other "all-time great" Dave Askew.

He hadn't yet matured, presumably.


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So the bookmakers rated the likes of Burnett, Warriner, and Rod above him?

Anyway, that was the tournament where a prime version of Adams lost to a past-it version of Lowe.
If we're to use that list seriously, it must be said that Adams had drawn the top seed (Manley) in the first round. I assume that would have fattened his outright price.

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:39 pm
by vizIIsto
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:35 pm
Rogg wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:31 pm Wolfie 25/1 to win the 2001 World Grand Prix, there. Level with that other "all-time great" Dave Askew.

He hadn't yet matured, presumably.


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So the bookmakers rated the likes of Burnett, Warriner, and Rod above him?

Anyway, that was the tournament where a prime version of Adams lost to a past-it version of Lowe.
Was this also the tournament where that past-it Lowe got to a close match out of Taylor?

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:55 pm
by Jimmi
Taylor 4/9 :lol:

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:56 pm
by sennafan24
vizIIsto wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:39 pm Was this also the tournament where that past-it Lowe got to a close match out of Taylor?
No.

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:02 pm
by cannibal
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:25 pm ...

I'd even rate Duzza above him. Perhaps even Waites.
Waites? Too far me thinks.

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:52 pm
by SuperSwede
Honestly i'd say he might just sneak top 40. It's wrong to simply look at titles in a sport like darts where there is such easy access to view the levels of performance as well as opposition.

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:12 pm
by Randall
I think Adams is a cunt like everyone but I'm struggling to think of 40 better players

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:14 pm
by sennafan24
Randall wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:12 pm I think Adams is a cunt like everyone but I'm struggling to think of 40 better players
I dunno.

Ronnie Baxter was probably a better player than Adams. Where would you rank him?

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:17 pm
by Randall
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:14 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:12 pm I think Adams is a cunt like everyone but I'm struggling to think of 40 better players
I dunno.

Ronnie Baxter was probably a better player than Adams. Where would you rank him?
Hmm
You could make a case for half the pdc current top 32 but most of them need to win something of any note 1st.

Re: Martin Adams, an all-time great?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:18 pm
by Randall
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:17 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:17 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:14 pm
Randall wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:12 pm I think Adams is a cunt like everyone but I'm struggling to think of 40 better players
I dunno.

Ronnie Baxter was probably a better player than Adams. Where would you rank him?
Hmm
You could make a case for half the pdc current top 32 but most of them need to win something of any note 1st.
Would did Adams win of note?
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