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I'll throw Kyle Anderson into the mix, too. Others are ahead on pure talent, but I have a feeling he could end up out-working all of them. He's got that determination to make as much of his darting career as he possibly can, which seems to be missing from a few others. And I think if we ever get a few years without anyone clearly ahead of the field Taylor/MvG-style, the ones who want it the most will get through.

Another 2008 scenario seems most likely to produce it any time soon.

2008 was an odd tournament because the players couldn't deal well with the size of Alexandra Palace. Like the 1994 Embassy at Lakeside, John Part was the most ready in a time of oddness, chaos and confusion.

Mvg has had a couple of early round scares, the longer it goes the less likely him losing. It's not beyond possibility. Then someone needs to take out Anderson, Lewis certainly won't be winning come Xmas.
In all likelihood I can't see a non mvg/Gando winner for a few years.

PT13 wrote:

Chizzyfan wrote:PT13, you are a sensible fellow. What do you make of Chizzy's chances of winning the world's? Considering he battered your man at his best into oblivion at the world's before, surely the chances are high.

Chizzy has all the talent needed to thrash the best players when he's at his best, but his mental side is very suspect. He's also prone to inconsistency with his darting standard. Chizzy needs to sort out the problems, but he has the talent to be world champion. The probability of him actually becoming world champion is still low at this time, though.

Chizzy's attitude is the problem. He isn't mean enough or arrogant enough. It may make him a nice chap but it won't make him a champion.

He needs anger. Before the 2016 PL he (or maybe it was Michaela) got an awful abuse online. He was raging and went on to bully nearly every player that year. He even showed immense bottle against MVG taking out a 161 to go 6-5 up on MVG.

I still maintain that one big confidence boost, something like beating MVG on stage again, would be enough to change Chizzy. I still think he equals Ando for natural talent, all he needs is, like Anderson, to sort out the attitude (and the hitch).

He doesn't believe he can win to my mind.

To quote yoda "that is why you fail"

He gave a very telling interview after losing to MVG (I think) last year saying something along the lines of "I used to think I was better than this". I remember Rogg picking up on it commenting that's Chizzy was very sad. I blame MVG, I think he has wrecked Chizzy's belief. And it is not all Chizzy's fault against MVG. Sometimes, he has just been unplayable against poor Chizzy, like the 10-9 they had a couple of years ago.

Be nice to have a few new World Champions..

Would like to see Chizzy win it, good player to watch

Randall wrote:Mvg has had a couple of early round scares, the longer it goes the less likely him losing. It's not beyond possibility. Then someone needs to take out Anderson, Lewis certainly won't be winning come Xmas.
In all likelihood I can't see a non mvg/Gando winner for a few years.

I think Barney will win a 6th World Championship before he retires.

Chizzyfan wrote:Chizzy's attitude is the problem. He isn't mean enough or arrogant enough. It may make him a nice chap but it won't make him a champion.

He needs anger. Before the 2016 PL he (or maybe it was Michaela) got an awful abuse online. He was raging and went on to bully nearly every player that year. He even showed immense bottle against MVG taking out a 161 to go 6-5 up on MVG.

I still maintain that one big confidence boost, something like beating MVG on stage again, would be enough to change Chizzy. I still think he equals Ando for natural talent, all he needs is, like Anderson, to sort out the attitude (and the hitch).

Yes, Chizzy needs more fire, i.e. confidence, arrogance, something to give him that extra push.

Chizzyfan wrote:He gave a very telling interview after losing to MVG (I think) last year saying something along the lines of "I used to think I was better than this". I remember Rogg picking up on it commenting that's Chizzy was very sad. I blame MVG, I think he has wrecked Chizzy's belief. And it is not all Chizzy's fault against MVG. Sometimes, he has just been unplayable against poor Chizzy, like the 10-9 they had a couple of years ago.

The losses to MvG, plus the 2015 Premier League semi final against Anderson, damaged his confidence. If you keep losing to the same player, you should never be afraid to keep trying until you do win. Be a terror to your adversaries, even in defeat.

Chizzyfan wrote:He gave a very telling interview after losing to MVG (I think) last year saying something along the lines of "I used to think I was better than this". I remember Rogg picking up on it commenting that's Chizzy was very sad. I blame MVG, I think he has wrecked Chizzy's belief. And it is not all Chizzy's fault against MVG. Sometimes, he has just been unplayable against poor Chizzy, like the 10-9 they had a couple of years ago.

Yup, that comment was after the Chizzy-MVG PC Finals Final last year, the night D.Webster had been 6-0 up on MVG in the semis. It was an eye-opening comment re his mental state.

Hard to imagine anyone new being a world champion inntit. The day it happens though, woah. History history etc.

It could be a player we currently haven't even heard of. Not as unlikely as it sounds, bearing in mind Rob Cross is on this poll.

Chizzyfan wrote:PT13, you are a sensible fellow. What do you make of Chizzy's chances of winning the world's? Considering he battered your man at his best into oblivion at the world's before, surely the chances are high.

Are you saying that those of us who rate Chizzy's chances of winning at Ally Pally at a similar level as Ted Hankey's are not sensible?

To be fair Chizzy did play well in the QF this year. However you just know that if he had snuck through, he would have lost to Krusty in the Semi.

Chizzyfan wrote:He gave a very telling interview after losing to MVG (I think) last year saying something along the lines of "I used to think I was better than this". I remember Rogg picking up on it commenting that's Chizzy was very sad. I blame MVG, I think he has wrecked Chizzy's belief. And it is not all Chizzy's fault against MVG. Sometimes, he has just been unplayable against poor Chizzy, like the 10-9 they had a couple of years ago.

I think the 6-0 grand prix final massacre set him back more than any other defeat.

Would not surprise me if its none of the above. Some cunt comes out from nowhere,don't know who thou!

Player that's most likely I think isn't on the list Peter Wright

miguelking wrote:Would not surprise me if its none of the above. Some cunt comes out from nowhere,don't know who thou!

To come from nowhere and win the Worlds in this day and age would be remarkable.
Deller did it, to a degree Taylor did.
Various post split lakeshite chumps have and Shepherd almost.
With the game at the moment it's almost impossible to imagine.

Wolflanternbumbag wrote:Player that's most likely I think isn't on the list Peter Wright

If he ever gets over the line against MvG somewhere and believes, it's no impossible.
That said he shits the bed against Anderson as well.
Crying before and after the matchplay final, he's just not cut out to be a winner.

Randall wrote:

miguelking wrote:Would not surprise me if its none of the above. Some cunt comes out from nowhere,don't know who thou!

To come from nowhere and win the Worlds in this day and age would be remarkable.
Deller did it, to a degree Taylor did.
Various post split lakeshite chumps have and Shepherd almost.
With the game at the moment it's almost impossible to imagine.

Not if it happens in 2025 after MVG has hoovered up the next 7!

Captain Hobo wrote:

Randall wrote:

miguelking wrote:Would not surprise me if its none of the above. Some cunt comes out from nowhere,don't know who thou!

To come from nowhere and win the Worlds in this day and age would be remarkable.
Deller did it, to a degree Taylor did.
Various post split lakeshite chumps have and Shepherd almost.
With the game at the moment it's almost impossible to imagine.

Not if it happens in 2025 after MVG has hoovered up the next 7!

Indeed.
It's really unlikely that someone comes and wins the Worlds in his first or second season.
But as MVG and maybe Gando might as well just win the next 4-5 titles, it's certainly possible that our next new winner is someone who we haven't heard about yet.
Rob Cross and Corey Cadby are frequently mentioned on this thread, they look like WC contenders for the next years. No one would have heard about those two a couple years ago.

Voted Gurney, but think The Original is just as good a pick. Consistency of these two lately has been good coupled with more experience against the biggest and the best on the stage is only going to help them.

I like Smith and the little fascist, but think they lack the consistency to play at a high standard for the two weeks or 3.