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Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:08 pm**

The point is in 60

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:05 pm**

Randall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:08 pm The point is in 60

well that's a pdc ref saying it's a treble 5. I haven't read it all though so maybe he's joking.

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:20 pm**

Rogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:05 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:08 pm The point is in 60
well that's a pdc ref saying it's a treble 5. I haven't read it all though so maybe he's joking.

He's not, the dart entered the board through the T5.

Point scored on the area the dart point enters

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:20 pm**

Rogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:05 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:08 pm The point is in 60
well that's a pdc ref saying it's a treble 5. I haven't read it all though so maybe he's joking.

The segment counts where the dart enters

It's T5

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:21 pm**

Foff Malt!

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:22 pm**

The Thorn wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:21 pm Foff Malt!

The 2 darting anorak's telling the older folks the rules yet again

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:24 pm**

TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:22 pm
The Thorn wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:21 pm Foff Malt!
The 2 darting anorak's telling the older folks the rules yet again

Around Randall's age people tend to forgot more stuff mate

Let's be patient with him

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:27 pm**

The Jodie club will have harmony.

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:27 pm**

Bastards

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:38 pm**

TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:20 pm
Rogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:05 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:08 pm The point is in 60
well that's a pdc ref saying it's a treble 5. I haven't read it all though so maybe he's joking.
He's not, the dart entered the board through the T5.

Point scored on the area the dart point enters

If it hasnt broken the sisal how do we determine if it has "entered" the area?

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:42 pm**

We only need senna now and the entire jodie club can have a huge brawl.

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:47 pm**

Emulsfier wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:38 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:20 pm
Rogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:05 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:08 pm The point is in 60
well that's a pdc ref saying it's a treble 5. I haven't read it all though so maybe he's joking.
He's not, the dart entered the board through the T5.

Point scored on the area the dart point enters
If it hasnt broken the sisal how do we determine if it has "entered" the area?

The referee can see that the point is first passing through the t5 wires on its way to the board.

I'm sure this rule was established a long time ago with crappy boards with loose wires.

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:49 pm**

1205 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:47 pm
Emulsfier wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:38 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:20 pm
Rogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:05 pm
Randall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:08 pm The point is in 60
well that's a pdc ref saying it's a treble 5. I haven't read it all though so maybe he's joking.
He's not, the dart entered the board through the T5.

Point scored on the area the dart point enters
If it hasnt broken the sisal how do we determine if it has "entered" the area?
The referee can see that the point is first passing through the t5 wires on its way to the board.

So basically its all immaterial and the real rule is "the ref has final say" like everything else.

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:33 pm**

Emulsfier wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:49 pm
1205 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:47 pm
Emulsfier wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:38 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:20 pm
Rogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:05 pm
well that's a pdc ref saying it's a treble 5. I haven't read it all though so maybe he's joking.
He's not, the dart entered the board through the T5.

Point scored on the area the dart point enters
If it hasnt broken the sisal how do we determine if it has "entered" the area?
The referee can see that the point is first passing through the t5 wires on its way to the board.
So basically its all immaterial and the real rule is "the ref has final say" like everything else.

No it's either under or over the wire

Or split the wire which I think is no score

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:42 pm**

Emulsfier wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:49 pm
1205 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:47 pm
Emulsfier wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:38 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:20 pm
Rogg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:05 pm
well that's a pdc ref saying it's a treble 5. I haven't read it all though so maybe he's joking.
He's not, the dart entered the board through the T5.

Point scored on the area the dart point enters
If it hasnt broken the sisal how do we determine if it has "entered" the area?
The referee can see that the point is first passing through the t5 wires on its way to the board.
So basically its all immaterial and the real rule is "the ref has final say" like everything else.

5.4.2 A scoring dart is counted by reference to the segment into which the point of the
dart enters and remains in or touching the face of the dartboard.

Some vagueness in that.

However

5.5.7 All the wires forming the doubles and trebles segments, inner and outer centre rings
which together form the “Spider”, shall be affixed to the face of the dartboard in
such a manner that they lie flat on the face of the dartboard and feature no gaps or
splits.

So by the rules the wires form the segments and wire should be flat against the board so I assume they judge it as an anomaly to pass under a wire.

But yes

5.4.8 The Referee shall act as an umpire in all matters pertaining to these General Playing
Rules when conducting a Darts Event and shall, if it is necessary, consult with Scorers
and other Officials before announcing any decisions during the course of Match play.

As I recall, Edgar did a video including that image and had Bevins answer questions. He was same as Binks on that one.

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:49 pm**

1205 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:42 pm
Emulsfier wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:49 pm
1205 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:47 pm
Emulsfier wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:38 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:20 pm

He's not, the dart entered the board through the T5.

Point scored on the area the dart point enters
If it hasnt broken the sisal how do we determine if it has "entered" the area?
The referee can see that the point is first passing through the t5 wires on its way to the board.
So basically its all immaterial and the real rule is "the ref has final say" like everything else.
5.4.2 A scoring dart is counted by reference to the segment into which the point of the
dart enters and remains in or touching the face of the dartboard.

Some vagueness in that.

However

5.5.7 All the wires forming the doubles and trebles segments, inner and outer centre rings
which together form the “Spider”, shall be affixed to the face of the dartboard in
such a manner that they lie flat on the face of the dartboard and feature no gaps or
splits.

So by the rules the wires form the segments and wire should be flat against the board so I assume they judge it as an anomaly to pass under a wire.

But yes

5.4.8 The Referee shall act as an umpire in all matters pertaining to these General Playing
Rules when conducting a Darts Event and shall, if it is necessary, consult with Scorers
and other Officials before announcing any decisions during the course of Match play.

As I recall, Edgar did a video including that image and had Bevins answer questions. He was same as Binks on that one.

I think the answer I would give if asked would be somewhere on the lines of "if the dart goes under the wire, thereby passing from the first segment to the second, it clearly must have at some point entered the first segement before going under the wire, hence it entered the first segment first and is therefore scored on that.

Posted: **Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:51 pm**

Have you seen those players from Africa? They have curved darts. Curved... darts...

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