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The Ginge Reaper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:56 am

Dfc180 wrote:It's basically just a lottery

Uh-oh. Lottery klaxon!!!!

Safc wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:57 am I'm also pretty sure Beau said she isn't going to Q-School a few months ago.

She might now after the wdf announcement. Have to wait and see

Safc wrote:I'm also pretty sure Beau said she isn't going to Q-School a few months ago.

Because there’s no meat raffle?

Ross, Bob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:02 pm

Safc wrote:I'm also pretty sure Beau said she isn't going to Q-School a few months ago.

Because there’s no meat raffle?

thegentle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:08 am Unless there are players who hand in their cards, I make it that there will be 27 cards up for grabs as there are 33 players who got their card last year who aren't in the top 64, plus the 4 new card holders (Nentjes, van der Velde, van Trijp and Owen)

Less cards available than last year for the following reasons

- Shepherd and Marjanovic gave up their cards after one year, two more were available at 2022 QS that shouldn't have been.

- Scott Williams made the top 64 without a card. If a 2022 graduate where in his place, that's another extra card available.

IMO we could see Vladimir Andersen give up. Absolutely no point him being on tour whatsoever.

DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:11 pm

thegentle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:08 am Unless there are players who hand in their cards, I make it that there will be 27 cards up for grabs as there are 33 players who got their card last year who aren't in the top 64, plus the 4 new card holders (Nentjes, van der Velde, van Trijp and Owen)

Less cards available than last year for the following reasons

- Shepherd and Marjanovic gave up their cards after one year, two more were available at 2022 QS that shouldn't have been.

- Scott Williams made the top 64 without a card. If a 2022 graduate where in his place, that's another extra card available.

IMO we could see Vladimir Andersen give up. Absolutely no point him being on tour whatsoever.

How many were there this year? Was it 32?

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:25 pm

DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:11 pm

thegentle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:08 am Unless there are players who hand in their cards, I make it that there will be 27 cards up for grabs as there are 33 players who got their card last year who aren't in the top 64, plus the 4 new card holders (Nentjes, van der Velde, van Trijp and Owen)

Less cards available than last year for the following reasons

- Shepherd and Marjanovic gave up their cards after one year, two more were available at 2022 QS that shouldn't have been.

- Scott Williams made the top 64 without a card. If a 2022 graduate where in his place, that's another extra card available.

IMO we could see Vladimir Andersen give up. Absolutely no point him being on tour whatsoever.

How many were there this year? Was it 32?

32 at Q-School, plus

Jim Williams
Matt Campbell
Bradley Brooks
Rusty Jake Rodriguez

Made 36 new card holders in 2022

DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:36 pm

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:25 pm

DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:11 pm

thegentle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:08 am Unless there are players who hand in their cards, I make it that there will be 27 cards up for grabs as there are 33 players who got their card last year who aren't in the top 64, plus the 4 new card holders (Nentjes, van der Velde, van Trijp and Owen)

Less cards available than last year for the following reasons

- Shepherd and Marjanovic gave up their cards after one year, two more were available at 2022 QS that shouldn't have been.

- Scott Williams made the top 64 without a card. If a 2022 graduate where in his place, that's another extra card available.

IMO we could see Vladimir Andersen give up. Absolutely no point him being on tour whatsoever.

How many were there this year? Was it 32?

32 at Q-School, plus

Jim Williams
Matt Campbell
Bradley Brooks
Rusty Jake Rodriguez

Made 36 new card holders in 2022

Euro QS could be quite brutal..

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:38 pm

DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:36 pm

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:25 pm

DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:11 pm

thegentle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:08 am Unless there are players who hand in their cards, I make it that there will be 27 cards up for grabs as there are 33 players who got their card last year who aren't in the top 64, plus the 4 new card holders (Nentjes, van der Velde, van Trijp and Owen)

Less cards available than last year for the following reasons

- Shepherd and Marjanovic gave up their cards after one year, two more were available at 2022 QS that shouldn't have been.

- Scott Williams made the top 64 without a card. If a 2022 graduate where in his place, that's another extra card available.

IMO we could see Vladimir Andersen give up. Absolutely no point him being on tour whatsoever.

How many were there this year? Was it 32?

32 at Q-School, plus

Jim Williams
Matt Campbell
Bradley Brooks
Rusty Jake Rodriguez

Made 36 new card holders in 2022

Euro QS could be quite brutal..

Depends on how the breakdown is, sometimes there have been almost twice as many cards being given out to the UK Q-School, sometimes it's almost level. The current format with 2 stages seems beneficial to the European Q-School lads as there is only 1 player on each day in each of the UK and EU Q-Schools who get a card rather than 2 for the UK one and 1 for the EU one

If Gates doesn't make it I'm not watching darts anymore

DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:11 pm

thegentle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:08 am Unless there are players who hand in their cards, I make it that there will be 27 cards up for grabs as there are 33 players who got their card last year who aren't in the top 64, plus the 4 new card holders (Nentjes, van der Velde, van Trijp and Owen)

Less cards available than last year for the following reasons

- Shepherd and Marjanovic gave up their cards after one year, two more were available at 2022 QS that shouldn't have been.

- Scott Williams made the top 64 without a card. If a 2022 graduate where in his place, that's another extra card available.

IMO we could see Vladimir Andersen give up. Absolutely no point him being on tour whatsoever.

Seems a lot of these players sign up to Q-School for free entry to Euro Tour qualifiers, only to make it unexpectedly and then they aren't sure what to do (the tour is a big enough commitment for players in the UK, let alone from overseas). Maybe for areas with their own affiliate tour they could think about using those standing ahead of the main OoM to determine their World Cup teams, I'm not sure if a couple of wins on tour all season should be enough for the likes of Andersen, van Dongen etc to get in ahead of some of their countrymen

thegentle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:43 pm

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:38 pm

DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:36 pm

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:25 pm

DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:11 pm
Less cards available than last year for the following reasons

- Shepherd and Marjanovic gave up their cards after one year, two more were available at 2022 QS that shouldn't have been.

- Scott Williams made the top 64 without a card. If a 2022 graduate where in his place, that's another extra card available.

IMO we could see Vladimir Andersen give up. Absolutely no point him being on tour whatsoever.

How many were there this year? Was it 32?

32 at Q-School, plus

Jim Williams
Matt Campbell
Bradley Brooks
Rusty Jake Rodriguez

Made 36 new card holders in 2022

Euro QS could be quite brutal..

Depends on how the breakdown is, sometimes there have been almost twice as many cards being given out to the UK Q-School, sometimes it's almost level. The current format with 2 stages seems beneficial to the European Q-School lads as there is only 1 player on each day in each of the UK and EU Q-Schools who get a card rather than 2 for the UK one and 1 for the EU one

yep, depends on the split I suppose

It was a 13-11 split this year from the OOM..

This year is only going to be 19 from the OOM

The Thorn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:44 pm If Gates doesn't make it I'm not watching darts anymore

He's always shit at Q-School.

Greipel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:34 pm

The Thorn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:44 pm If Gates doesn't make it I'm not watching darts anymore

He's always shit at Q-School.

Unlike Kovacs, Vegso and all the other fantastic players

The Thorn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:46 pm

Greipel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:34 pm

The Thorn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:44 pm If Gates doesn't make it I'm not watching darts anymore

He's always shit at Q-School.

Unlike Kovacs, Vegso and all the other fantastic players

Lakatos narrowly missed it a few years ago, when he's also beaten Sousa.

Greipel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:46 pm

The Thorn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:46 pm

Greipel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:34 pm

The Thorn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:44 pm If Gates doesn't make it I'm not watching darts anymore

He's always shit at Q-School.

Unlike Kovacs, Vegso and all the other fantastic players

Lakatos narrowly missed it a few years ago, when he's also beaten Sousa.

I remember that mate. Shame he hasn't got going recently he was the best Hungarian prospect at the time

Dfc180 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:40 am

thegentle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:34 am Don't know the split between the UK and EU entries yet, but for argument's sake let's say it'll be a 15-12 split, here are my picks for Q-School, no doubt I'll have it horribly wrong as usual!

EU:
Sedlacek
Bialecki
Tricole
Labre
Meulenkamp
Zonneveld
de Zwaan
van Veen
Gates
Kist
Plaisier
Kuivenhoven

UK:
Brown
Boulton
Burton
Borland
Mitchell
Henderson
Pallett
Lee Evans
McEwan
Thornton
Payne
Raymond Smith*
Greaves
Girvan
Scott Taylor

Q school never works this way. There's always a John Brown/Aaron Beeney and a couple of others who are unknowns. This would be a really strong year if it happened but in all likelihood only half of these will get cards

Indeed, some of these players (such as Keegan Brown) I am as confident as can be that they'll get cards (which certainly isn't to say they will!), some of them (such as Gates) are more hopeful punts that could come off, but there are always complete outsiders. Sometimes they are a pleasant surprise like Josh Rock, more often than not they are Beeney or Wilkinson types who don't do much

Lisa Ashton to win a card

DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:50 am UPDATED

2023 Exemptions to Stage 2 of Q-School

UK

Scott Mitchell

Gordon Mathers

I was surprised that Mitchell didn't do enough in two years to keep his card, but when he dropped off, expected him to go down the Modus/Seniors route.

As much as I like the guy, no idea why BLM would want to do the tour again. He only qualified originally on the OOM and that was down to a deep run on one of the days. Fair play for moving to the UK and giving it a go, but with a young family at home and not picking up much in prize money, hardly seems worth the sacrifice to do it all again.