2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Chat and Gossip About Professional Darts and The More Farcical Successors To The BDO
User avatar
TheMalteseDart
Moderator
Posts: 33671
Joined: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:40 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by TheMalteseDart » Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:17 pm

This tournament is enough pairs though for me. I see people clambering for more pairs but I think it’d take the shine away from this event
Image

Also a Paul Linwood enjoyer

User avatar
tungsten tossers
Posts: 172319
Joined: Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:09 pm
Location: Surrey
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by tungsten tossers » Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:20 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:17 pm This tournament is enough pairs though for me. I see people clambering for more pairs but I think it’d take the shine away from this event
This... The fact that they are playing for their country makes it exciting....
Standard pairs in any other event would be shite

User avatar
sennafan24
Moderator
Posts: 39584
Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:00 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by sennafan24 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:00 pm

I wouldn't mind a pairs tournament with the top 32.

Beyond that it would be overkill..
The day the world stood still:
HalloweenJack wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 6:35 am Okay, I stand corrected.

1205
Posts: 2659
Joined: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:56 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by 1205 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:03 pm

skweezit wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:00 pm great crowd.
great tournament.
great drama.
great comp.
great upsets.
great example of why random draws are shit.
<Attention-seeking signature goes here>

1205
Posts: 2659
Joined: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:56 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by 1205 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:42 pm

tungsten tossers wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:20 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:17 pm This tournament is enough pairs though for me. I see people clambering for more pairs but I think it’d take the shine away from this event
This... The fact that they are playing for their country makes it exciting....
Standard pairs in any other event would be shite
I disagree.

One of weakness of the World Cup is that pairings are by individual ranking, and you can end up with pairings that don't gel.

In a general pairs tournament, players pair up by choice and I think that would help the tournament.

Imagine if the World Cup rule were always that the top-ranked player for a country chose their playing partner. Although many teams would be the same, I can imagine that the England, Netherlands and Northern Ireland teams would have been different.

I do agree that a PDC pairs tournament would detract from the World Cup.
<Attention-seeking signature goes here>

User avatar
mad jock
Posts: 1831
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:35 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by mad jock » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:46 pm

Well done Wales, going to be a hard team to beat, their tally could easily go into double figures

User avatar
thegentle
Posts: 15072
Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:52 am
Location: Watford
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by thegentle » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:30 pm

mad jock wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:46 pm Well done Wales, going to be a hard team to beat, their tally could easily go into double figures
Tbf Wales will probably go into any World Cup for the foreseeable future as favourites, but Price has always said he isn't going to be in darts for the long haul
Image

User avatar
Dfc180
Posts: 7179
Joined: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:08 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by Dfc180 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:45 pm

thegentle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:30 pm
mad jock wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:46 pm Well done Wales, going to be a hard team to beat, their tally could easily go into double figures
Tbf Wales will probably go into any World Cup for the foreseeable future as favourites, but Price has always said he isn't going to be in darts for the long haul
He's full of shit. He'll still be there for a fair few years yet

User avatar
thegentle
Posts: 15072
Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:52 am
Location: Watford
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by thegentle » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:47 pm

1205 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:42 pm
tungsten tossers wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:20 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:17 pm This tournament is enough pairs though for me. I see people clambering for more pairs but I think it’d take the shine away from this event
This... The fact that they are playing for their country makes it exciting....
Standard pairs in any other event would be shite
I disagree.

One of weakness of the World Cup is that pairings are by individual ranking, and you can end up with pairings that don't gel.

In a general pairs tournament, players pair up by choice and I think that would help the tournament.

Imagine if the World Cup rule were always that the top-ranked player for a country chose their playing partner. Although many teams would be the same, I can imagine that the England, Netherlands and Northern Ireland teams would have been different.

I do agree that a PDC pairs tournament would detract from the World Cup.
It's a quirk in the ranking system that Rock isn't yet in the Northern Irish top 2 despite being the best player from there, but I think the idea of 'gelling' with a partner is overblown, outside of possibly thinking about leaving checkouts that wouldn't necessarily be natural to them (I'd be interested to see the breakdown of setup and checkout stats of certain players), I don't think rhythm would have much of an impact as there are 3 players between each player's throw
Image

User avatar
thegentle
Posts: 15072
Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:52 am
Location: Watford
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by thegentle » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:57 pm

I mean, I struggle to believe the lack of success England and the Netherlands have had in the last few years is down to all of those pairs just not having chemistry when it's indisputable that the quality of both countries' pairings has declined
Image

User avatar
TheMalteseDart
Moderator
Posts: 33671
Joined: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:40 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by TheMalteseDart » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:08 pm

thegentle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:47 pm
1205 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:42 pm
tungsten tossers wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:20 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:17 pm This tournament is enough pairs though for me. I see people clambering for more pairs but I think it’d take the shine away from this event
This... The fact that they are playing for their country makes it exciting....
Standard pairs in any other event would be shite
I disagree.

One of weakness of the World Cup is that pairings are by individual ranking, and you can end up with pairings that don't gel.

In a general pairs tournament, players pair up by choice and I think that would help the tournament.

Imagine if the World Cup rule were always that the top-ranked player for a country chose their playing partner. Although many teams would be the same, I can imagine that the England, Netherlands and Northern Ireland teams would have been different.

I do agree that a PDC pairs tournament would detract from the World Cup.
It's a quirk in the ranking system that Rock isn't yet in the Northern Irish top 2 despite being the best player from there, but I think the idea of 'gelling' with a partner is overblown, outside of possibly thinking about leaving checkouts that wouldn't necessarily be natural to them (I'd be interested to see the breakdown of setup and checkout stats of certain players), I don't think rhythm would have much of an impact as there are 3 players between each player's throw
Exactly, it’s a fallacy to create a bit of narrative which we always do in darts to try and find reasoning for something happening.

Play that tournament ten times and Smith and Cross definitely pick up a few titles, but apparently they don’t gel
Image

Also a Paul Linwood enjoyer

User avatar
tungsten tossers
Posts: 172319
Joined: Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:09 pm
Location: Surrey
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by tungsten tossers » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:18 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:08 pm
thegentle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:47 pm
1205 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:42 pm
tungsten tossers wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:20 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:17 pm This tournament is enough pairs though for me. I see people clambering for more pairs but I think it’d take the shine away from this event
This... The fact that they are playing for their country makes it exciting....
Standard pairs in any other event would be shite
I disagree.

One of weakness of the World Cup is that pairings are by individual ranking, and you can end up with pairings that don't gel.

In a general pairs tournament, players pair up by choice and I think that would help the tournament.

Imagine if the World Cup rule were always that the top-ranked player for a country chose their playing partner. Although many teams would be the same, I can imagine that the England, Netherlands and Northern Ireland teams would have been different.

I do agree that a PDC pairs tournament would detract from the World Cup.
It's a quirk in the ranking system that Rock isn't yet in the Northern Irish top 2 despite being the best player from there, but I think the idea of 'gelling' with a partner is overblown, outside of possibly thinking about leaving checkouts that wouldn't necessarily be natural to them (I'd be interested to see the breakdown of setup and checkout stats of certain players), I don't think rhythm would have much of an impact as there are 3 players between each player's throw
Exactly, it’s a fallacy to create a bit of narrative which we always do in darts to try and find reasoning for something happening.

Play that tournament ten times and Smith and Cross definitely pick up a few titles, but apparently they don’t gel
This... the WC probably not the favourite event for the faster rhythm players as the wait between throws is a bit too long.. The OOM system is absolutely fine..
Players picking their pairing is farcical

User avatar
thegentle
Posts: 15072
Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:52 am
Location: Watford
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by thegentle » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:29 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:08 pm
thegentle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:47 pm
1205 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:42 pm
tungsten tossers wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:20 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:17 pm This tournament is enough pairs though for me. I see people clambering for more pairs but I think it’d take the shine away from this event
This... The fact that they are playing for their country makes it exciting....
Standard pairs in any other event would be shite
I disagree.

One of weakness of the World Cup is that pairings are by individual ranking, and you can end up with pairings that don't gel.

In a general pairs tournament, players pair up by choice and I think that would help the tournament.

Imagine if the World Cup rule were always that the top-ranked player for a country chose their playing partner. Although many teams would be the same, I can imagine that the England, Netherlands and Northern Ireland teams would have been different.

I do agree that a PDC pairs tournament would detract from the World Cup.
It's a quirk in the ranking system that Rock isn't yet in the Northern Irish top 2 despite being the best player from there, but I think the idea of 'gelling' with a partner is overblown, outside of possibly thinking about leaving checkouts that wouldn't necessarily be natural to them (I'd be interested to see the breakdown of setup and checkout stats of certain players), I don't think rhythm would have much of an impact as there are 3 players between each player's throw
Exactly, it’s a fallacy to create a bit of narrative which we always do in darts to try and find reasoning for something happening.

Play that tournament ten times and Smith and Cross definitely pick up a few titles, but apparently they don’t gel
Darts is an incredibly simple sport that a lot of people try to over-complicate
Image

User avatar
tungsten tossers
Posts: 172319
Joined: Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:09 pm
Location: Surrey
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by tungsten tossers » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:55 pm

thegentle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:29 pm
TheMalteseDart wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:08 pm
thegentle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:47 pm
1205 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:42 pm
tungsten tossers wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:20 pm

This... The fact that they are playing for their country makes it exciting....
Standard pairs in any other event would be shite
I disagree.

One of weakness of the World Cup is that pairings are by individual ranking, and you can end up with pairings that don't gel.

In a general pairs tournament, players pair up by choice and I think that would help the tournament.

Imagine if the World Cup rule were always that the top-ranked player for a country chose their playing partner. Although many teams would be the same, I can imagine that the England, Netherlands and Northern Ireland teams would have been different.

I do agree that a PDC pairs tournament would detract from the World Cup.
It's a quirk in the ranking system that Rock isn't yet in the Northern Irish top 2 despite being the best player from there, but I think the idea of 'gelling' with a partner is overblown, outside of possibly thinking about leaving checkouts that wouldn't necessarily be natural to them (I'd be interested to see the breakdown of setup and checkout stats of certain players), I don't think rhythm would have much of an impact as there are 3 players between each player's throw
Exactly, it’s a fallacy to create a bit of narrative which we always do in darts to try and find reasoning for something happening.

Play that tournament ten times and Smith and Cross definitely pick up a few titles, but apparently they don’t gel
Darts is an incredibly simple sport that a lot of people try to over-complicate
+1

User avatar
The Thorn
Posts: 104685
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:36 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by The Thorn » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:20 pm

Fat cunts
The truth, however ugly in itself, is always curious and beautiful to seekers after it.

Image


User avatar
ChrisW
Posts: 23710
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:40 am
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by ChrisW » Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:52 pm

Took then a while to pick up on this.

https://dartsnews.com/pdc/anderson-make ... VKfMqHjTbk

User avatar
devosteve
Posts: 227
Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:52 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by devosteve » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:46 pm

ChrisW wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:52 pm Took then a while to pick up on this.

https://dartsnews.com/pdc/anderson-make ... VKfMqHjTbk
The v sign is seen as offensive in England, the article says. Implying it isn't elsewhere. I thought it was more or less universal.

Saying that I have one of the hammer Frankenstein films on dvd that has a scene where Frankenstein brings an arm into action and it gives the v sign. You can see the American version where the arm gives the middle finger.

User avatar
Randall
Site Admin
Posts: 209049
Joined: Thu May 05, 2011 2:59 pm
Location: On a hill surrounded by Indians (Leicester)
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by Randall » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:51 pm

Nobody in the uk finds the v sign offensive surely
Image

User avatar
ChrisW
Posts: 23710
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:40 am
Contact:

Re: 2023 PDC World Cup of Darts

Post by ChrisW » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:51 pm

It was done in a very jokey manner.

Post Reply
Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot], The Thorn and 39 guests