I like it. Wattiimprovement famously played at the oranjebar on the Tuesday and was in the European Championship final 5 days later. Science, imo.tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:24 amDennie needs to get himself along to the Oranjebar... get a bit of confidenceRogg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:29 amPerhaps he can take consolation from Dragt who was still on zero in JUNE last season and ended it on 13,500.The Thorn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:30 amNot sure what happened to him. He made a decent name for himself on the amateur circuit. I guess from a large sample size there are always going to be a couple lads who just can't handle the tour.Rogg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:18 am Dennie got to the last 16 at the lake as recently as 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_WDF_ ... Rounds_1-4
That's not saying much but still.
On the other hand, Dragty ended that season a good chunk fatter in the PC aves compared to where Dennie is currently: 88.83 v 84.82.
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Quite unbelievable. He's 82 v 87 in players championships. What a potato.Emulsfier wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:26 pmI wasnt aware Kanik was that shameful. Only facing 87 ffs.James4 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:04 pm There is something I would point out about Olde Kalter.
He has the highest opponent 3 dart average in Players Championship events of any of the class of 2025, 94.07, against whom he’s won 27% of legs.
Compare that to Tytus Kanik, whose opponent 3 dart average is 87.32, against whom he’s only won 36% of legs. And Pero Ljubic, who has won 32% of legs against an opponent 3 dart average of 93.39.
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ziemniakRogg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:19 pmQuite unbelievable. He's 82 v 87 in players championships. What a potato.Emulsfier wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:26 pmI wasnt aware Kanik was that shameful. Only facing 87 ffs.James4 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:04 pm There is something I would point out about Olde Kalter.
He has the highest opponent 3 dart average in Players Championship events of any of the class of 2025, 94.07, against whom he’s won 27% of legs.
Compare that to Tytus Kanik, whose opponent 3 dart average is 87.32, against whom he’s only won 36% of legs. And Pero Ljubic, who has won 32% of legs against an opponent 3 dart average of 93.39.
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TDF Index update.
Slightly better by Wes. Gotthardt is our new greatest disappointment.
+27 Adam Lipscombe 22750
+25 Thomas Lovely 12250
+14 Tavis Dudeney 7500
+13 Tom Bissell 5250
+10 Max Hopp 9500
+9 Sebastian Bialecki 17500
+8 Greg Ritchie 6000
+6 Justin Hood 14000
+5 Maximilian Czerwinski 3500
+3 Cam Crabtree 13250
+3 Adam Warner 5000
+2 Marvin van Velzen 8250
+2 Leon Weber 2000
+1 Karel Sedlacek 18250
0 Stefaan Henderyck 4500
-1 Dominik Gruellich 5250
-2 Bradley Brooks 12500
-2 Andy Boulton 8750
-2 Pero Ljubic 750
-3 Niko Springer 16250
-3 Jim Long 7250
-3 Rusty-Jake Rodriguez 6500
-4 Oskar Lukasiak 5250
-5 Darryl Pilgrim 10250
-5 Christian Kist 9000
-5 Maik Kuivenhoven 8500
-7 Cor Dekker 4500
-7 Adam Paxton 2000
-9 Tytus Kanik 3500
-11 Dennie Olde Kalter 0
-16 Wesley Plaisier 6000
-16 Viktor Tingstrom 1000
-19 Kai Gotthardt 4000
Slightly better by Wes. Gotthardt is our new greatest disappointment.
+27 Adam Lipscombe 22750
+25 Thomas Lovely 12250
+14 Tavis Dudeney 7500
+13 Tom Bissell 5250
+10 Max Hopp 9500
+9 Sebastian Bialecki 17500
+8 Greg Ritchie 6000
+6 Justin Hood 14000
+5 Maximilian Czerwinski 3500
+3 Cam Crabtree 13250
+3 Adam Warner 5000
+2 Marvin van Velzen 8250
+2 Leon Weber 2000
+1 Karel Sedlacek 18250
0 Stefaan Henderyck 4500
-1 Dominik Gruellich 5250
-2 Bradley Brooks 12500
-2 Andy Boulton 8750
-2 Pero Ljubic 750
-3 Niko Springer 16250
-3 Jim Long 7250
-3 Rusty-Jake Rodriguez 6500
-4 Oskar Lukasiak 5250
-5 Darryl Pilgrim 10250
-5 Christian Kist 9000
-5 Maik Kuivenhoven 8500
-7 Cor Dekker 4500
-7 Adam Paxton 2000
-9 Tytus Kanik 3500
-11 Dennie Olde Kalter 0
-16 Wesley Plaisier 6000
-16 Viktor Tingstrom 1000
-19 Kai Gotthardt 4000
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Both Max and Fake Max doing better than predictedRogg wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:50 pm TDF Index update.
Slightly better by Wes. Gotthardt is our new greatest disappointment.
+27 Adam Lipscombe 22750
+25 Thomas Lovely 12250
+14 Tavis Dudeney 7500
+13 Tom Bissell 5250
+10 Max Hopp 9500
+9 Sebastian Bialecki 17500
+8 Greg Ritchie 6000
+6 Justin Hood 14000
+5 Maximilian Czerwinski 3500
+3 Cam Crabtree 13250
+3 Adam Warner 5000
+2 Marvin van Velzen 8250
+2 Leon Weber 2000
+1 Karel Sedlacek 18250
0 Stefaan Henderyck 4500
-1 Dominik Gruellich 5250
-2 Bradley Brooks 12500
-2 Andy Boulton 8750
-2 Pero Ljubic 750
-3 Niko Springer 16250
-3 Jim Long 7250
-3 Rusty-Jake Rodriguez 6500
-4 Oskar Lukasiak 5250
-5 Darryl Pilgrim 10250
-5 Christian Kist 9000
-5 Maik Kuivenhoven 8500
-7 Cor Dekker 4500
-7 Adam Paxton 2000
-9 Tytus Kanik 3500
-11 Dennie Olde Kalter 0
-16 Wesley Plaisier 6000
-16 Viktor Tingstrom 1000
-19 Kai Gotthardt 4000
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Fair play to Lippy and Carpet Cleaner
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A spirited fight having trailed 5-1.James4 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:52 pmHe was so close. https://recap.dartconnect.com/matches/6 ... 016a47fc1f
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Following PC13. Money won today shown in brackets.
Sedlacek passes 20k. His QF run was today's best.
Hopp passes 10k. Weber with a last 16 more than doubles his season's total.
22750 Adam Lipscombe
21750 Karel Sedlacek [ + 3500 ]
18500 Sebastian Bialecki [ + 1000 ]
17750 Niko Springer [ + 1500 ]
14250 Cam Crabtree [ + 1000 ]
14000 Bradley Brooks [ + 1500 ]
14000 Justin Hood
12250 Thomas Lovely
11000 Max Hopp [ + 1500 ]
10250 Darryl Pilgrim
9750 Andy Boulton [ + 1000 ]
9250 Marvin van Velzen [ + 1000 ]
9000 Christian Kist
8500 Maik Kuivenhoven
8250 Jim Long [ + 1000 ]
7500 Tavis Dudeney
7000 Wesley Plaisier [ + 1000 ]
6750 Dominik Gruellich [ + 1500 ]
6500 Rusty-Jake Rodriguez
6000 Greg Ritchie
5500 Stefaan Henderyck [ + 1000 ]
5250 Tom Bissell
5250 Oskar Lukasiak
5000 Adam Warner
4500 Leon Weber [ + 2500 ]
4500 Cor Dekker
4000 Kai Gotthardt
3500 Maximilian Czerwinski
3500 Tytus Kanik
2000 Adam Paxton
1000 Viktor Tingstrom
750 Pero Ljubic
0 Dennie Olde Kalter
Sedlacek passes 20k. His QF run was today's best.
Hopp passes 10k. Weber with a last 16 more than doubles his season's total.
22750 Adam Lipscombe
21750 Karel Sedlacek [ + 3500 ]
18500 Sebastian Bialecki [ + 1000 ]
17750 Niko Springer [ + 1500 ]
14250 Cam Crabtree [ + 1000 ]
14000 Bradley Brooks [ + 1500 ]
14000 Justin Hood
12250 Thomas Lovely
11000 Max Hopp [ + 1500 ]
10250 Darryl Pilgrim
9750 Andy Boulton [ + 1000 ]
9250 Marvin van Velzen [ + 1000 ]
9000 Christian Kist
8500 Maik Kuivenhoven
8250 Jim Long [ + 1000 ]
7500 Tavis Dudeney
7000 Wesley Plaisier [ + 1000 ]
6750 Dominik Gruellich [ + 1500 ]
6500 Rusty-Jake Rodriguez
6000 Greg Ritchie
5500 Stefaan Henderyck [ + 1000 ]
5250 Tom Bissell
5250 Oskar Lukasiak
5000 Adam Warner
4500 Leon Weber [ + 2500 ]
4500 Cor Dekker
4000 Kai Gotthardt
3500 Maximilian Czerwinski
3500 Tytus Kanik
2000 Adam Paxton
1000 Viktor Tingstrom
750 Pero Ljubic
0 Dennie Olde Kalter
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After a good start, Pilgrim has been absolutely shit the past few weeks

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Emulsfier wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:07 pmReverted to type.DeepFriedRat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:52 pm After a good start, Pilgrim has been absolutely shit the past few weeks

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TDF Index. Maxsceptics in ever more tatters.
+27 Adam Lipscombe 22750
+25 Thomas Lovely 12250
+13 Tavis Dudeney 7500
+11 Max Hopp 11000
+11 Tom Bissell 5250
+9 Sebastian Bialecki 18500
+7 Greg Ritchie 6000
+6 Leon Weber 4500
+4 Cam Crabtree 14250
+4 Justin Hood 14000
+4 Marvin van Velzen 9250
+4 Maximilian Czerwinski 3500
+3 Dominik Gruellich 6750
+3 Stefaan Henderyck 5500
+2 Adam Warner 5000
+1 Karel Sedlacek 21750
-1 Bradley Brooks 14000
-1 Andy Boulton 9750
-2 Jim Long 8250
-2 Pero Ljubic 750
-3 Niko Springer 17750
-5 Rusty-Jake Rodriguez 6500
-6 Darryl Pilgrim 10250
-6 Maik Kuivenhoven 8500
-6 Oskar Lukasiak 5250
-7 Christian Kist 9000
-7 Adam Paxton 2000
-8 Cor Dekker 4500
-10 Tytus Kanik 3500
-11 Dennie Olde Kalter 0
-15 Wesley Plaisier 7000
-16 Viktor Tingstrom 1000
-20 Kai Gotthardt 4000
+27 Adam Lipscombe 22750
+25 Thomas Lovely 12250
+13 Tavis Dudeney 7500
+11 Max Hopp 11000
+11 Tom Bissell 5250
+9 Sebastian Bialecki 18500
+7 Greg Ritchie 6000
+6 Leon Weber 4500
+4 Cam Crabtree 14250
+4 Justin Hood 14000
+4 Marvin van Velzen 9250
+4 Maximilian Czerwinski 3500
+3 Dominik Gruellich 6750
+3 Stefaan Henderyck 5500
+2 Adam Warner 5000
+1 Karel Sedlacek 21750
-1 Bradley Brooks 14000
-1 Andy Boulton 9750
-2 Jim Long 8250
-2 Pero Ljubic 750
-3 Niko Springer 17750
-5 Rusty-Jake Rodriguez 6500
-6 Darryl Pilgrim 10250
-6 Maik Kuivenhoven 8500
-6 Oskar Lukasiak 5250
-7 Christian Kist 9000
-7 Adam Paxton 2000
-8 Cor Dekker 4500
-10 Tytus Kanik 3500
-11 Dennie Olde Kalter 0
-15 Wesley Plaisier 7000
-16 Viktor Tingstrom 1000
-20 Kai Gotthardt 4000
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I'm not counting Scutt because he didn't start on zero, but here is where his 2025 winnings place him.
22750 Adam Lipscombe
21750 Karel Sedlacek
18500 Sebastian Bialecki
17750 Niko Springer
14750 Connor Scutt
14250 Cam Crabtree
14000 Bradley Brooks
14000 Justin Hood
12250 Thomas Lovely
11000 Max Hopp
10250 Darryl Pilgrim
9750 Andy Boulton
9250 Marvin van Velzen
9000 Christian Kist
8500 Maik Kuivenhoven
8250 Jim Long
7500 Tavis Dudeney
7000 Wesley Plaisier
6750 Dominik Gruellich
6500 Rusty-Jake Rodriguez
6000 Greg Ritchie
5500 Stefaan Henderyck
5250 Tom Bissell
5250 Oskar Lukasiak
5000 Adam Warner
4500 Leon Weber
4500 Cor Dekker
4000 Kai Gotthardt
3500 Maximilian Czerwinski
3500 Tytus Kanik
2000 Adam Paxton
1000 Viktor Tingstrom
750 Pero Ljubic
0 Dennie Olde Kalter
22750 Adam Lipscombe
21750 Karel Sedlacek
18500 Sebastian Bialecki
17750 Niko Springer
14750 Connor Scutt
14250 Cam Crabtree
14000 Bradley Brooks
14000 Justin Hood
12250 Thomas Lovely
11000 Max Hopp
10250 Darryl Pilgrim
9750 Andy Boulton
9250 Marvin van Velzen
9000 Christian Kist
8500 Maik Kuivenhoven
8250 Jim Long
7500 Tavis Dudeney
7000 Wesley Plaisier
6750 Dominik Gruellich
6500 Rusty-Jake Rodriguez
6000 Greg Ritchie
5500 Stefaan Henderyck
5250 Tom Bissell
5250 Oskar Lukasiak
5000 Adam Warner
4500 Leon Weber
4500 Cor Dekker
4000 Kai Gotthardt
3500 Maximilian Czerwinski
3500 Tytus Kanik
2000 Adam Paxton
1000 Viktor Tingstrom
750 Pero Ljubic
0 Dennie Olde Kalter
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Pretty good going considering his opponent average is over 97

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