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Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:35 pm
by Rogg
I don't think there's any particular correlation between on-stage behaviour after losing a final and what the player will go on to achieve in the game. Is there? It's just a mishmash of stuff happening in the moment, wherever it happens to takes them. It's not a useful measuring stick in that way.

What I dislike about the loser grinning after getting humped in a final is that it can cheapen the occasion. I think I require visual evidence of absolute breakdown to justify the time I spent watching it but then I'm not very nice.

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:37 pm
by HalloweenJack
Rogg wrote:I don't think there's any particular correlation between on-stage behaviour after losing a final and what the player will go on to achieve in the game. Is there? It's just a mishmash of stuff happening in the moment, wherever it happens to takes them. It's not a useful measuring stick in that way.

What I dislike about the loser grinning after getting humped in a final is that it can cheapen the occasion. I think I require visual evidence of absolute breakdown to justify the time I spent watching it but then I'm not very nice.
I think it’s a safe bet to say the you wouldn’t see Bullyboy grinning after a major final defeat.


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Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:45 pm
by Randall
This will be harder to get over than the world final
This was his for the taking

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:54 pm
by Rogg
HalloweenJack wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:37 pm
Rogg wrote:I don't think there's any particular correlation between on-stage behaviour after losing a final and what the player will go on to achieve in the game. Is there? It's just a mishmash of stuff happening in the moment, wherever it happens to takes them. It's not a useful measuring stick in that way. What I dislike about the loser grinning after getting humped in a final is that it can cheapen the occasion. I think I require visual evidence of absolute breakdown to justify the time I spent watching it but then I'm not very nice.
I think it’s a safe bet to say the you wouldn’t see Bullyboy grinning after a major final defeat. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Smith must be the absolute opposite of Chizzy in that way. What that's worth, I don't know.

2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:00 pm
by HalloweenJack
Randall wrote:This will be harder to get over than the world final
This was his for the taking
And the rest. This was the first of his major finals where he was a clear favourite to win.

In 3 of his finals he has lost 11-10
Wade 2018 World Series. He missed 5 match darts.
Wright 2020 Masters. He missed 3 match darts
Noppert 2022 U.K open. He missed 1 match dart.
Yesterday it was his scoring that went to pot, what must rankle him though is the fact Noppert averaged around 84 yet still beat him.
In a last leg decider in a major final, I would back just about anybody to beat him.
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Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:20 pm
by Rogg
Quite affected by the 2022 darkness of Cullen and Noppert getting the job done in telly finals against Chizzy and Smith. Woo(f).

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:29 pm
by Rogg
HalloweenJack wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:00 pm
Randall wrote:This will be harder to get over than the world final This was his for the taking
And the rest. This was the first of his major finals where he was a clear favourite to win. In 3 of his finals he has lost 11-10 Wade 2018 World Series. He missed 5 match darts. Wright 2020 Masters. He missed 3 match darts Noppert 2022 U.K open. He missed 1 match dart. Yesterday it was his scoring that went to pot, what must rankle him though is the fact Noppert averaged around 84 yet still beat him. In a last leg decider in a major final, I would back just about anybody to beat him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
So he's missed championship darts in three finals and is yet to win one (this side of Shanghai). You have to go a long to find a collection quite like that. I can't think of anything.

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:39 pm
by The Thorn
It will make his first win all the more sweeter

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:47 pm
by HalloweenJack
The Thorn wrote:It will make his first win all the more sweeter
You would think with his natural ability he should win a few majors but getting that first one is proving very difficult for him.


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Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:58 pm
by tungsten tossers
HalloweenJack wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:47 pm
The Thorn wrote:It will make his first win all the more sweeter
You would think with his natural ability he should win a few majors but getting that first one is proving very difficult for him.
It could be that if/when he gets the first one, he may go on to win many more...
The mental block of getting his first is proving to be harder than most people ( including himself) thought..

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:02 pm
by sennafan24
HalloweenJack wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:00 pm
Randall wrote:This will be harder to get over than the world final This was his for the taking
And the rest. This was the first of his major finals where he was a clear favourite to win. In 3 of his finals he has lost 11-10 Wade 2018 World Series. He missed 5 match darts. Wright 2020 Masters. He missed 3 match darts Noppert 2022 U.K open. He missed 1 match dart. Yesterday it was his scoring that went to pot, what must rankle him though is the fact Noppert averaged around 84 yet still beat him. In a last leg decider in a major final, I would back just about anybody to beat him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Good summary.

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:21 pm
by sennafan24
Rogg wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:35 pm I don't think there's any particular correlation between on-stage behaviour after losing a final and what the player will go on to achieve in the game. Is there? It's just a mishmash of stuff happening in the moment, wherever it happens to takes them. It's not a useful measuring stick in that way. What I dislike about the loser grinning after getting humped in a final is that it can cheapen the occasion. I think I require visual evidence of absolute breakdown to justify the time I spent watching it but then I'm not very nice.
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Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:27 pm
by The Thorn
People react in different ways. I don't think it's much use to judge reactions after lost finals either way

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:35 am
by Randall
Adams was piseed as usual

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:45 am
by miguelking
To be fair to Noppert he can play pretty well. I remember his game vs peak Ando at the grand sla.m years back as an example. I think he has a chance of picking up another TV title or 2. World GP I would say he has a good chance and suits his game.

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:27 pm
by Rogg
miguelking wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:45 am To be fair to Noppert he can play pretty well. I remember his game vs peak Ando at the grand sla.m years back as an example. I think he has a chance of picking up another TV title or 2. World GP I would say he has a good chance and suits his game.
That was a top game at the 2016 Slam. He looked like he belonged there. Impressive moments often end up nowhere but Norbit has managed to stick.

Surely by several measures he will end up outshining Durrant in the PDC which is... funny. Those golden days of Duzzamania...

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:29 pm
by sennafan24
Rogg wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:27 pmThose golden days of Duzzamania...
"Boom"

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:51 pm
by The Thorn
Rogg wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:27 pm
miguelking wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:45 am To be fair to Noppert he can play pretty well. I remember his game vs peak Ando at the grand sla.m years back as an example. I think he has a chance of picking up another TV title or 2. World GP I would say he has a good chance and suits his game.
That was a top game at the 2016 Slam. He looked like he belonged there. Impressive moments often end up nowhere but Norbit has managed to stick. Surely by several measures he will end up outshining Durrant in the PDC which is... funny. Those golden days of Duzzamania...
Was always going to happen. Durrant is like 20 years older. Then again I think if you look back on the 2017 BDO world final, and to think, both of them have went on to win PDC majors. It's quite pleasing. The conveyor belt is working in mysterious ways.

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:10 pm
by Randall
Durrant hasn't won a pdc major

Re: 2022 UK Open

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:15 pm
by The Thorn
Randall wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:10 pm Durrant hasn't won a pdc major
:D