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Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:21 am
by Cooking with Sandra
Wash your mouth out!

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:23 am
by Rogg
Cooking with Sandra wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:21 am Wash your mouth out!
:oops:

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:30 am
by The Thorn
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:18 am Dennie got to the last 16 at the lake as recently as 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_WDF_ ... Rounds_1-4

That's not saying much but still.
Not sure what happened to him. He made a decent name for himself on the amateur circuit. I guess from a large sample size there are always going to be a couple lads who just can't handle the tour.

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:29 am
by Rogg
The Thorn wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:30 am
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:18 am Dennie got to the last 16 at the lake as recently as 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_WDF_ ... Rounds_1-4

That's not saying much but still.
Not sure what happened to him. He made a decent name for himself on the amateur circuit. I guess from a large sample size there are always going to be a couple lads who just can't handle the tour.
Perhaps he can take consolation from Dragt who was still on zero in JUNE last season and ended it on 13,500.

On the other hand, Dragty ended that season a good chunk fatter in the PC aves compared to where Dennie is currently: 88.83 v 84.82.

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:24 am
by tungsten tossers
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:29 am
The Thorn wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:30 am
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:18 am Dennie got to the last 16 at the lake as recently as 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_WDF_ ... Rounds_1-4

That's not saying much but still.
Not sure what happened to him. He made a decent name for himself on the amateur circuit. I guess from a large sample size there are always going to be a couple lads who just can't handle the tour.
Perhaps he can take consolation from Dragt who was still on zero in JUNE last season and ended it on 13,500.

On the other hand, Dragty ended that season a good chunk fatter in the PC aves compared to where Dennie is currently: 88.83 v 84.82.
Dennie needs to get himself along to the Oranjebar... get a bit of confidence

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:43 am
by James4
tungsten tossers wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:24 am
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:29 am
The Thorn wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:30 am
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:18 am Dennie got to the last 16 at the lake as recently as 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_WDF_ ... Rounds_1-4

That's not saying much but still.
Not sure what happened to him. He made a decent name for himself on the amateur circuit. I guess from a large sample size there are always going to be a couple lads who just can't handle the tour.
Perhaps he can take consolation from Dragt who was still on zero in JUNE last season and ended it on 13,500.

On the other hand, Dragty ended that season a good chunk fatter in the PC aves compared to where Dennie is currently: 88.83 v 84.82.
Dennie needs to get himself along to the Oranjebar... get a bit of confidence
Are card holders allowed to play it?

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:45 am
by The Thorn
It's not looking good for Dennie but we aren't even at the half way mark of the season. He has a 2 year card.

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:46 am
by oche balboa
James4 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:43 am
tungsten tossers wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:24 am
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:29 am
The Thorn wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:30 am
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:18 am Dennie got to the last 16 at the lake as recently as 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_WDF_ ... Rounds_1-4

That's not saying much but still.
Not sure what happened to him. He made a decent name for himself on the amateur circuit. I guess from a large sample size there are always going to be a couple lads who just can't handle the tour.
Perhaps he can take consolation from Dragt who was still on zero in JUNE last season and ended it on 13,500.

On the other hand, Dragty ended that season a good chunk fatter in the PC aves compared to where Dennie is currently: 88.83 v 84.82.
Dennie needs to get himself along to the Oranjebar... get a bit of confidence
Are card holders allowed to play it?
Yes has its not Televised.

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:48 am
by Cooking with Sandra
James4 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:43 am
tungsten tossers wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:24 am
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:29 am
The Thorn wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:30 am
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:18 am Dennie got to the last 16 at the lake as recently as 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_WDF_ ... Rounds_1-4

That's not saying much but still.
Not sure what happened to him. He made a decent name for himself on the amateur circuit. I guess from a large sample size there are always going to be a couple lads who just can't handle the tour.
Perhaps he can take consolation from Dragt who was still on zero in JUNE last season and ended it on 13,500.

On the other hand, Dragty ended that season a good chunk fatter in the PC aves compared to where Dennie is currently: 88.83 v 84.82.
Dennie needs to get himself along to the Oranjebar... get a bit of confidence
Are card holders allowed to play it?
Wattijobber plays in it.

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:53 am
by James4
The Thorn wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:45 am It's not looking good for Dennie but we aren't even at the half way mark of the season. He has a 2 year card.
Trouble is, to get back in the races he needs to get through either the Grand Slam qualifier and/or preferably the Worlds Qualifier.

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:58 am
by The Thorn
James4 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:53 am
The Thorn wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:45 am It's not looking good for Dennie but we aren't even at the half way mark of the season. He has a 2 year card.
Trouble is, to get back in the races he needs to get through either the Grand Slam qualifier and/or preferably the Worlds Qualifier.
Many players do well and lose their cards. It's life. His goal should not be to keep his card but to build up some wins and get to a couple TV events maybe

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:59 am
by James4
Maybe the WS Finals, given how many players choose to miss that qualifier

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:04 pm
by James4
There is something I would point out about Olde Kalter.

He has the highest opponent 3 dart average in Players Championship events of any of the class of 2025, 94.07, against whom he’s won 27% of legs.

Compare that to Tytus Kanik, whose opponent 3 dart average is 87.32, against whom he’s only won 36% of legs. And Pero Ljubic, who has won 32% of legs against an opponent 3 dart average of 93.39.

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Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:09 pm
by James4
Ljubic is just winning more legs because he’s hitting more doubles. Both have had limited attempts.
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Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:15 pm
by James4
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Mostly Olde Kalter is just running at that mid to high 80s average and not taking the limited attempts at double that 92 first 9 gives him.

Ljubic is just getting attempts when they come through his opponents missing clumps or having an off leg it seems.

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:17 pm
by James4
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Producing your best darts, then Littler decides it’s time you get Nuked

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Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:54 pm
by Cooking with Sandra
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Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:26 pm
by Emulsfier
James4 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:04 pm There is something I would point out about Olde Kalter.

He has the highest opponent 3 dart average in Players Championship events of any of the class of 2025, 94.07, against whom he’s won 27% of legs.

Compare that to Tytus Kanik, whose opponent 3 dart average is 87.32, against whom he’s only won 36% of legs. And Pero Ljubic, who has won 32% of legs against an opponent 3 dart average of 93.39.

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I wasnt aware Kanik was that shameful. Only facing 87 ffs.

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:27 pm
by tungsten tossers
James4 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:43 am
tungsten tossers wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:24 am
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:29 am
The Thorn wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:30 am
Rogg wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:18 am Dennie got to the last 16 at the lake as recently as 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_WDF_ ... Rounds_1-4

That's not saying much but still.
Not sure what happened to him. He made a decent name for himself on the amateur circuit. I guess from a large sample size there are always going to be a couple lads who just can't handle the tour.
Perhaps he can take consolation from Dragt who was still on zero in JUNE last season and ended it on 13,500.

On the other hand, Dragty ended that season a good chunk fatter in the PC aves compared to where Dennie is currently: 88.83 v 84.82.
Dennie needs to get himself along to the Oranjebar... get a bit of confidence
Are card holders allowed to play it?
Yep.. Capy has played a few times over the last year

Re: The Class of 2025: Progress Report

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:31 pm
by tungsten tossers
James4 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:04 pm There is something I would point out about Olde Kalter.

He has the highest opponent 3 dart average in Players Championship events of any of the class of 2025, 94.07, against whom he’s won 27% of legs.

Compare that to Tytus Kanik, whose opponent 3 dart average is 87.32, against whom he’s only won 36% of legs. And Pero Ljubic, who has won 32% of legs against an opponent 3 dart average of 93.39.

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Probably just a confidence issue with Dennie
Dragt had the same issue last year