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Cross is not one of the players that you would pick to win any of the majors atm...

Whereas Noppie, Cullen, Dimi, Asp, Dirk and Humphries look more likely yet are all below him in the rankings...

Cross looks more like a player just inside the top 16, rather than a player ranked 8th

Cross is one of those, much like wade, who will be bang out of form for ages and then reach a major semi/final and hang around the top 10 for another 2 years.

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:59 pm Cross is not one of the players that you would pick to win any of the majors atm... Whereas Noppie, Cullen, Dimi, Asp, Dirk and Humphries look more likely yet are all below him in the rankings... Cross looks more like a player just inside the top 16, rather than a player ranked 8th

Cross is a multiple time proven winner though. People have written him off before and he delivered again and again. Still in the top 10 of yearly averages

The Thorn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:16 pm

tungsten tossers wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:59 pm Cross is not one of the players that you would pick to win any of the majors atm... Whereas Noppie, Cullen, Dimi, Asp, Dirk and Humphries look more likely yet are all below him in the rankings... Cross looks more like a player just inside the top 16, rather than a player ranked 8th

Cross is a multiple time proven winner though. People have written him off before and he delivered again and again. Still in the top 10 of yearly averages

Agreed, but he just doesn't look like winning any of the majors atm...

If he is a proven winner and he goes deep in the majors next year, he will stay in the top 10, but I think he may drop out of the top 10

Dross is always on the brink of a big rankings fall right up until he sorts it. Still yet to really happen.

he's 3rd in the protour order of merit and 8th on the pro tour averages, not exactly playing shit.

The Thorn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:38 pm

Oche's reaction:

Good

I'm a bit disappointed but I understand it.

Randall wanted them gone in 2007.

Now it's ranked, it should be for players within the PDC ranking system only, so it's a correct decision

In 07 they had arguably the 2nd best player in the world at the time
Now they don't have 1 top 100

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:20 pm In 07 they had arguably the 2nd best player in the world at the time Now they don't have 1 top 100

Tricole
Veenstra
McEwen
Greaves

The Thorn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:21 pm

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:20 pm In 07 they had arguably the 2nd best player in the world at the time Now they don't have 1 top 100

Tricole Veenstra McEwen Greaves

Thanks for supporting Randall's point

Randall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:20 pm In 07 they had arguably the 2nd best player in the world at the time

Adams?

TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:19 pm Now it's ranked, it should be for players within the PDC ranking system only, so it's a correct decision

Whats that anyway? Lots of WDF players do Challenge Tour too

Even then what if they give the WDF 1 or 2 spots. Still 30 or 31 remain for PDC. Does it make any difference?

Been hearing this argument for a whie and never understood it. Seems like more of a moral stance than being based on facts. We are obviously not talking about 8 spots there, only 1 for world champ and maybe 1 more for world master

The Thorn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:27 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:19 pm Now it's ranked, it should be for players within the PDC ranking system only, so it's a correct decision

Whats that anyway? Lots of WDF players do Challenge Tour too Even then what if they give the WDF 1 or 2 spots. Still 30 or 31 remain for PDC. Does it make any difference? Been hearing this argument for a whie and never understood it. Seems like more of a moral stance than being based on facts. We are obviously not talking about 8 spots there, only 1 for world champ and maybe 1 more for world master

Because it potentially takes away valuable prize money for players within their own system. Prize money said players could use to qualify for future PDC events.

If the PDC rewarded someone like Neil Duff with a GSOD spot, not only would he contribute feck all to the tournament, but it would take away prize money that may help someone to move up the ladder in the PDC.

The Thorn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:27 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:19 pm Now it's ranked, it should be for players within the PDC ranking system only, so it's a correct decision

Whats that anyway? Lots of WDF players do Challenge Tour too Even then what if they give the WDF 1 or 2 spots. Still 30 or 31 remain for PDC. Does it make any difference? Been hearing this argument for a whie and never understood it. Seems like more of a moral stance than being based on facts. We are obviously not talking about 8 spots there, only 1 for world champ and maybe 1 more for world master

If you're doing the challenge tour your part of the PDC ranking system, and funnily enough there's a spot for the challenge tour winner. So WDF players can qualify for the slam that way

TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:36 pm

The Thorn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:27 pm

TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:19 pm Now it's ranked, it should be for players within the PDC ranking system only, so it's a correct decision

Whats that anyway? Lots of WDF players do Challenge Tour too Even then what if they give the WDF 1 or 2 spots. Still 30 or 31 remain for PDC. Does it make any difference? Been hearing this argument for a whie and never understood it. Seems like more of a moral stance than being based on facts. We are obviously not talking about 8 spots there, only 1 for world champ and maybe 1 more for world master

If you're doing the challenge tour your part of the PDC ranking system, and funnily enough there's a spot for the challenge tour winner. So WDF players can qualify for the slam that way

+1

The floor qualifiers create more opportunities for tour card holders, even if I disagreed with the amount they have handed out over the years.

The CT and DT spots add more value to the PDC's alternative tours.

Again, why should the PDC offer the WDF players a wildcard at the expense of their own tourcard holders or alternative tours? It made a bit of sense a decade ago when there were still some BDO players that were world class, and even 5 years ago when Duzza was in the BDO. Those players added something to the event. But now? It makes little sense at all.